Cyp/Tren/Primo Cut

[Ryu82]

Solid progress so far man. Any plan to add anything to aid in fat loss in the future or just stick with what you are doing and manipulate calories and cardio?

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Solid progress so far man. Any plan to add anything to aid in fat loss in the future or just stick with what you are doing and manipulate calories and cardio?

I'm just doing 50mcg of T3 daily; maybe I'll add clen for a bit later. But so far as things are going, no need to do much.

 

[theotherguy]

I'm just doing 50mcg of T3 daily; maybe I'll add clen for a bit later. But so far as things are going, no need to do much.

I’m with ya, if it’s working, why fuck with it. Good job on the cut so far

 

[Ferenor]

How much protein are you eating with 50 mcg of T3?

 

[Ryu82]

How much protein are you eating with 50 mcg of T3?

273g from his first post with his diet outline.

 

[SAZHammer]

What are you doing for your cardio? Especially on leg days. Is struggle to get through cardio on leg day.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

What are you doing for your cardio? Especially on leg days. Is struggle to get through cardio on leg day.

On push pull days I do the treadmill PWO at 3mp for 30mins at no incline. Leg days I do the bike for 30 mins on setting five, for 30 mins.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

So, basically been floating around 230, so I'm gonna cut down the calories by 300. I have been leaning out in my legs and stomach, so I am changing, but I need to speed up the process a bit.

The Tren E has been causing trensomnia for the last two weeks, which is strange after being so far into the cycle. I could either drop it for a month, or just lower it to 200mg a week. My last shot from the bottle was yesterday, so I'll just skip Thursday's to see how I feel. I could also keep pushing until I run out, but then I'd have to be taking melatonin every night.

I'm also going to alter my training to include a bit more volume, raising the rept to 12-15, drop the final HIT sets, and just do another straight set till failure.

I dropped the steak and ground turkey, and have incorporated eggs. I was experimenting with 96% lean ground beef, and making one meal a burger wrap, which is around 584 calories. But this list is what I'll be eating from now on.

My body should change a fuckton in the next few weeks.

 

[theotherguy]

So, basically been floating around 230, so I'm gonna cut down the calories by 300. I have been leaning out in my legs and stomach, so I am changing, but I need to speed up the process a bit.

The Tren E has been causing trensomnia for the last two weeks, which is strange after being so far into the cycle. I could either drop it for a month, or just lower it to 200mg a week. My last shot from the bottle was yesterday, so I'll just skip Thursday's to see how I feel. I could also keep pushing until I run out, but then I'd have to be taking melatonin every night.

I'm also going to alter my training to include a bit more volume, raising the rept to 12-15, drop the final HIT sets, and just do another straight set till failure.

I dropped the steak and ground turkey, and have incorporated eggs. I was experimenting with 96% lean ground beef, and making one meal a burger wrap, which is around 584 calories. But this list is what I'll be eating from now on.

My body should change a fuckton in the next few weeks.

How far into the cycle did the trensomnia start?

 

[Deleted member 123722]

How far into the cycle did the trensomnia start?

It's weird because I just finished my second bottle, and each bottle is about 5 weeks at 400mg per week; I started Feb 21, so essentially 8 weeks in.

 

[theotherguy]

It's weird because I just finished my second bottle, and each bottle is about 5 weeks at 400mg per week; I started Feb 21, so essentially 8 weeks in.

I know with ace it can take up to 4 weeks for all the sides the settle in. So 8 week with enth doesn’t surprise me.

I’m no endocrinologist, but it makes me think that the trensomnia is a 3rd or 4th order effect of tren.

 

[Albozz]

So, basically been floating around 230, so I'm gonna cut down the calories by 300. I have been leaning out in my legs and stomach, so I am changing, but I need to speed up the process a bit.

The Tren E has been causing trensomnia for the last two weeks, which is strange after being so far into the cycle. I could either drop it for a month, or just lower it to 200mg a week. My last shot from the bottle was yesterday, so I'll just skip Thursday's to see how I feel. I could also keep pushing until I run out, but then I'd have to be taking melatonin every night.

I'm also going to alter my training to include a bit more volume, raising the rept to 12-15, drop the final HIT sets, and just do another straight set till failure.

I dropped the steak and ground turkey, and have incorporated eggs. I was experimenting with 96% lean ground beef, and making one meal a burger wrap, which is around 584 calories. But this list is what I'll be eating from now on.

My body should change a fuckton in the next few weeks.

I think tren can be a double edged sword during a cut.It can help you burn fat faster and keep training productive on the other hand it wont let you sleep which raises cortisol which then blocks fat burning.You could try using Gaba 750mg-1,5g and valerian 600mg,they always helped with Masteron insomnia.How is your cardio looking?

 

[theotherguy]

I think tren can be a double edged sword during a cut.It can help you burn fat faster and keep training productive on the other hand it wont let you sleep which raises cortisol which then blocks fat burning.You could try using Gaba 750mg-1,5g and valerian 600mg,they always helped with Masteron insomnia.How is your cardio looking?

Doesn’t tren have anti cortisol properties?

 

[Albozz]

Doesn’t tren have anti cortisol properties?

Yes it does,all "cutting" steroids do to a degree (Winstrol has the strongest anti cortisol effect i believe).But if you keep missing out on quality sleep cortisol will raise no matter what you take and cortisol easily "overpowers" every other hormone in the human body.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

I think tren can be a double edged sword during a cut.It can help you burn fat faster and keep training productive on the other hand it wont let you sleep which raises cortisol which then blocks fat burning.You could try using Gaba 750mg-1,5g and valerian 600mg,they always helped with Masteron insomnia.How is your cardio looking?

Cardio is fine, actually.

 

[theotherguy]

Cardio is fine, actually.

I think as long as you stay on top of it, it won’t go in the shitter

 

[Deleted member 123722]

227lb this morning. Took some pics. Of course the bathroom pic looks the best. But interesting, I also took a side-by-side of when I started my bulk at 223, and compared it to now; I'm basically bigger but the same leanness.
223 before winter bulk vs 227 during cut.

 

[Ryu82]

Some good progress man. Are you finding the GH is helping out at all vs. your last long and low cut?

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Some good progress man. Are you finding the GH is helping out at all vs. your last long and low cut?

I would think so, but to be honest I have no clue.

 

[jJjburton]

@falseprophet09 that's awesome. I've personally only ever done acetate but have recently seen more accounts of people having less sides using equivalent doses of Tren E.

I hope this blast goes well for you!

Because your getting less hormone due to ester weight. Also if you taper tren a you get less sides.

Enanthate ester 70-80%ish
Acetate 84-94%ish