Readalots Enhanced Testing

[readalot]

Not one positive comment in support of increased surveillance / data collection for analytical metrics besides HPLC purity. Appears @BigNoOne has made his point.

It is good to know where the community stands. Very glad I did the testing regardless.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Why did you get so obsessed with it?

How did you become so obsessed with readalot? You're literally chasing him around the forum now, like one of those annoying little dogs, yapping and nipping at his heels.

Knowing that this stuff isn’t a concern, are you still willing to pay $5 more per vial for a cert that confirms this stuff that’s not a concern is in fact not in your vial?

Yes, I am. Now STFU already and let the man do his work.

 

[BigNoOne]

Not one positive comment in support of increased surveillance / data collection for analytical metrics besides HPLC purity. Appears @BigNoOne has made his point.

It is good to know where the community stands. Very glad I did the testing regardless.

Don’t be a baby now.

If there was an endotoxin or something that came back at a concerning level then you’d be the hero we didn’t know we needed!

 

[BigNoOne]

How did you become so obsessed with readalot? You're literally chasing him around the forum now, like one of those annoying little dogs, yapping and nipping at his heels.


Yes, I am. Now STFU already and let the man do his work.

Ok.

If I want to post I’ll be sure to ask you for permission first.

STFU? Really? This wouldn’t be much of a forum if everyone said that.

 

[iris]

And

These twerpy condescending comments is what has made you irritating.

If you want respect. You earn it and you give it. This isn’t a dainty tea party forum. Oh speak to us great readalot for thou is so virtuous and intellectual.

It’s cause I’m not nearly as smart as you.
None of us are.
And you will remind us every single time.

FunkOdyssey beat me to replying, but I did have a look at it all, last night.
Most of your posts have been made on this thread or in response to Readalot, in other threads.
Your posting history suggests you like to be given a bit of condescension, disrespect and to be reminded you are not smart.
So, you like a bit of dom.
We can give it to you, no problem.

I think that your attitude towards Readalot seems to be rather prejudiced, regardless of the testing scenario, and you display your hostility and deep dislike towards him at every opportunity.
Even if he were to say his testing project is purely out of interest and inconsequential, you would still have an issue with that.

He only posted once about training, you wrote.
It's not true, first of all, but where are your posts on training, since you are looking at his?
He trains, and some. I know that.
About you, though, zero is known.
But nobody has questioned you about that or used it to insult you.

Personally, I couldn’t give a flying Frisbee about what you do.
What is clear is that you are only here to buy stuff to brew and it is very likely you sell the stuff you make, like pretty much everyone who homebrews.

Therefore, it makes sense that you are never going to care about floaters, impurities and sterility that may affect finished products.
But no metals and endotoxins where found in the raws, in the tests shown above by your Daddy Readalot, so you are g2g.

You could be grateful at least for that.
And for the fact you won't need to waste any more time writing on this useless thread.

 

[BigNoOne]

Not one positive comment in support of increased surveillance / data collection for analytical metrics besides HPLC purity. Appears @BigNoOne has made his point.

It is good to know where the community stands. Very glad I did the testing regardless.

Jano should pay you. You showed everyone that he’s capable of doing other analyses.

The sterility one will be used by members moving forward. There’s always guys asking “whether a golf ball sized lump is normal”. They can now send it to be tested.

 

[Ateam2023]

imo what @readalot has done as far as this testing is very commendable, so what there wasn't anything to show as far as endotoxins/heavy metals, what if there was? How would we have known? Not having these nasty things in our raws/oils is what harm reduction is all about, "don't kill the messanger" ,,,,,

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

Thank you for your great work and invaluable contributions to harm reduction in our community @readalot @Sampei @Dirthand @janoshik

It is a shame that these results are hidden away among the spam in this thread. Perhaps you could make a separate thread for each type of testing, along with a brief write-up of the background, results, and recommendations for future testing.

 

[BigNoOne]

FunkOdyssey beat me to replying, but I did have a look at it all, last night.
Most of your posts have been made on this thread or in response to Readalot, in other threads.
Your posting history suggests you like to be given a bit of condescension, disrespect and to be reminded you are not smart.
So, you like a bit of dom.
We can give it to you, no problem.

I think that your attitude towards Readalot seems to be rather prejudiced, regardless of the testing scenario, and you display your hostility and deep dislike towards him at every opportunity.
Even if he were to say his testing project is purely out of interest and inconsequential, you would still have an issue with that.

He only posted once about training, you wrote.
It's not true, first of all, but where are your posts on training, since you are looking at his?
He trains, and some. I know that.
About you, though, zero is known.
But nobody has questioned you about that or used it to insult you.

Personally, I couldn’t give a flying Frisbee about what you do.
What is clear is that you are only here to buy stuff to brew and it is very likely you sell the stuff you make, like pretty much everyone who homebrews.

Therefore, it makes sense that you are never going to care about floaters, impurities and sterility that may affect finished products.
But no metals and endotoxins where found in the raws, in the tests shown above by your Daddy Readalot, so you are g2g.

You could be grateful at least for that.
And for the fact you won't need to waste any more time writing on this useless thread.

That is a lot of words. But I did read them all.

I joined MESO after engaging with Readalot on a separate forum where he kept sending links to MESO as part of our discussions. I’m brand new here and really only joined to continue discussions. So @FunkOdyssey is write, but I’m not stalking @readalot. I’m having an ongoing discussion.

I told him on the other forum that he would need to identify something, anything, that’s a concern in order to get support. He hasn’t and I understand his position that he shouldn’t be paying money to find something. My argument is the same. Why should anyone pay money to look for something this isn’t there, never has been there, and never will be there. That’s money that’s wasted. No reason behind the expense.

incidentally, which analysis identifies floaters? Which impurities were identified?

 

[readalot]

We know its not an issue, hasn't remotely presented itself as a concern with people with standard brewing/filtering knowledge.

What is clear is that you are only here to buy stuff to brew and it is very likely you sell the stuff you make, like pretty much everyone who homebrews.

Therefore, it makes sense that you are never going to care about floaters, impurities and sterility that may affect finished products.
But no metals and endotoxins where found in the raws, in the tests shown

Very insightful point on finished products Iris. No one can claim to know the status of finished products cause no one has tested them for this stuff (particularly endotoxins and sterility). Same for raws. Anyone who claims different is completely full of shit or has ulterior motives.

Glad I could help somewhat ease the minds of homebrewers and people who only buy raws.

 

[BigNoOne]

Thank you for your great work and invaluable contributions to harm reduction in our community @readalot @Sampei @Dirthand @janoshik

It is a shame that these results are hidden away among the spam in this thread. Perhaps you could make a separate thread for each type of testing, along with a brief write-up of the background, results, and recommendations for future testing.

Keep giving me thumbs down Jeff. Mash that button again and again. It doesn’t matter to me so if it makes you feel good then keep going. Lol. Like a 5 year old.

 

[iris]

Very insightful point on finished products Iris. No one can claim to know the status of finished products cause no one has tested them for this stuff (particularly endotoxins and sterility). Same for raws. Anyone who claims different is completely full of shit or has ulterior motives.

Glad I could help somewhat ease the minds of homebrewers and people who only buy raws.

@MyNameIsJeff is right, though.
This thread should only contain your posts relevant to the tests.
Can I ask admin to delete mine, as I can only ask for the ones I have written?
I know they will do it, because I have already done so somewhere else

 

[readalot]

incidentally, which analysis identifies floaters? Which impurities were identified?

Great question and wish we had access to this type of pharma testing for UGL products. Sadly doesn't exist today. That would be like custom job even if equipment were available.

 

[BigNoOne]

Great question and wish we had access to this type of pharma testing for UGL products. Sadly doesn't exist today. That would be like custom job even if equipment were available.

You didn’t think of the potential shitstorm that some of these tests could create with “member-submitted blind samples”. In quotes because they could be submitted by shills from other UGLs.

 

[readalot]

@MyNameIsJeff is right, though.
This thread should only contain your posts relevant to the tests.
Can I ask admin to delete mine, as I can only ask for the ones I have written?
I know they will do it, because I have already done so somewhere else, that ìs
Spaceman' s thread

Let it ride I say. We can distill later if it makes it that far. We need all the ingredients to make sausage. Millard (and you did too) warned me about not engaging a broader audience from the get go.

 

[BigNoOne]

@MyNameIsJeff is right, though.
This thread should only contain your posts relevant to the tests.
Can I ask admin to delete mine, as I can only ask for the ones I have written?
I know they will do it, because I have already done so somewhere else

If @readalot wants to post everything for easy viewing I will respect it and not comment. This was and has been a discussion thread. People disagree in discussions. MESO isn’t an echo chamber like @My.Name.Is.Jeff would prefer.

 

[readalot]

You didn’t think of the potential shitstorm that some of these tests could create with “member-submitted blind samples”. In quotes because they could be submitted by shills from other UGLs.

I worked with carefully selected respected members here. Yes I did, and the work to date has integrity as far as I know.

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

Keep giving me thumbs down Jeff. Mash that button again and again. It doesn’t matter to me so if it makes you feel good then keep going. Lol. Like a 5 year old.

The kinda post you make when you are totally not pressed.

 

[readalot]

If @readalot wants to post everything for easy viewing I will respect it and not comment. This was and has been a discussion thread. People disagree in discussions. MESO isn’t an echo chamber like @My.Name.Is.Jeff would prefer.

Keep it coming. Absolutely agree. I've tried to answer and engage with you to the best of my ability.

 

[readalot]

Thank you for your great work and invaluable contributions to harm reduction in our community @readalot @Sampei @Dirthand @janoshik

It is a shame that these results are hidden away among the spam in this thread. Perhaps you could make a separate thread for each type of testing, along with a brief write-up of the background, results, and recommendations for future testing.

Thanks alot, I will distill down later after we work through the vetting and discussion if there is broad interest. I am always happy to do more work haha.