TEST and EQ on first cycle?

[Underworlddog]

I was asking my friend if 300mg test and 300 eq on my first cycle is stupid?

He started calling me a blatant retard. So I'm here to ask you guys opinions (but harsh idc)

 

[cutterz]

99% stupid. No point to take EQ on the first cycle, it . Just do Test for 20 weeks or whatever(depending on the sides, progress, blood work) and learn how well you respond to it, how to manage potential sides of test only without worrying about eq.

 

[glpfun]

Do you know why you want to?

 

[iris]

There's a million threads and posts about first cycle.

Typing 2 words in the search thingy too much effort

 

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[iris]

Good of you to let us know you are "a blatant retard" as part of your first post.

Will keep it in mind.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

4 minutes of research would have saved you time. Test only on the first cycle. Do you know anything about either compound?

 

[HeatherSwanson]

Blast test and see how you go. Don't fuck around with ancillaries until after that 20 week golden goose is over.
Your virgin receptors are going to love it. Make sure diet on point for max results.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Test only. EQ can crash e2 or raise it. Not for a beginner

 

[Underworlddog]

Blast test and see how you go. Don't fuck around with ancillaries until after that 20 week golden goose is over.
Your virgin receptors are going to love it. Make sure diet on point for max results.

care to elab why 20 weeks. As most threads i read recommend 10-16

 

[HeatherSwanson]

care to elab why 20 weeks. As most threads i read recommend 10-16

I always run 20 weeks unless I had plans like a comp of some sort or holiday to interrupt prior to having children. I figured it was 25% longer and my bloods always came back post pct on the mark so why not. Having said that I use about half a most guys amounts, never more than 500mg a week at the absolute max ever.

 

[Georgetrenson]

Test only. EQ can crash e2 or raise it. Not for a beginner

This. The reason you want to use test only your first cycle is so you can learn how to manage your e2.

Its much easier and forgiving to learn how to do this with arimidex as opposed to using an injectable alternative, which is much more complicated in application given delays w/ esters & half life.

 

[DoctorX]

300 mg of eq is to low of a dosage. And eq takes a while to fully reach peak levels. So a 12 week cycle with 300 mg eq added is a waste of money (for spending money on eq)

 

[Mongo966]

I was asking my friend if 300mg test and 300 eq on my first cycle is stupid?

He started calling me a blatant retard. So I'm here to ask you guys opinions (but harsh idc)

Run 600mg of test. You'll enjoy it a lot more than 300mg of each. You'll feel like a million bucks.

 

[ThinBulk]

I was asking my friend if 300mg test and 300 eq on my first cycle is stupid?

He started calling me a blatant retard. So I'm here to ask you guys opinions (but harsh idc)

Feel lucky you have a good enough friend to call you a retard for that cycle. Start with a higher amount of just test. My first cycle was 500mg test e only. It was great, and would recommend to anyone.

 

[ripper908]

most people will say test only for a first cycle and I would agree

IF and that's a big if you desire to add in a second compound. I would wait until far into the cycle (16 weeks and beyond) to know how your body is doing with the test and than I would add in a second fast acting compound like npp for 4 weeks

but id still say stick to test only first cycle. plenty of time to experiment down the road with other compounds

 

[Georgetrenson]

Run 600mg of test. You'll enjoy it a lot more than 300mg of each. You'll feel like a million bucks.

Everyone is different. Personally, I feel much better splitting between estrogenic and anti estrogenic compounds,

It depends how estrogen sensitive OP is; if he feels better at lower levels of e2 then I’d say splitting the weekly dose between test/eq would be the better stack, and vice versa if he thrives at higher e2 levels;

this is why you use test only the first cycle to see how you respond to e2

 

[Mongo966]

Everyone is different. Personally, I feel much better splitting between estrogenic and anti estrogenic compounds,

It depends how estrogen sensitive OP is; if he feels better at lower levels of e2 then I’d say splitting the weekly dose between test/eq would be the better stack, and vice versa if he thrives at higher e2 levels;

this is why you use test only the first cycle to see how you respond to e2

...so you agree, then.
Test only for first cycle. lol

 

[Georgetrenson]

...so you agree, then.
Test only for first cycle. lol

Yeah lol, only disagreement I have is starting flat out at 600, I didnt notice the first cycle part, my bad.

I think you should budget enough for 600 a week but start somewhere around 200-300 a week and titrate up

 

[FortyFiveLbs]

I was asking my friend if 300mg test and 300 eq on my first cycle is stupid?

He started calling me a blatant retard. So I'm here to ask you guys opinions (but harsh idc)

I didn’t touch EQ until my 3rd cycle… Have to walk before you can run dude.

Curious to know if you actually went through with this ignorant ass shit.