Luck with Test E raws?

[mikeswole]

I've been brewing since 98 back when aroma therapy kits were online to convert fina pellet carts into tren. In regards to pip everyone is different some people react to high % of BB over 20, and others can't use anything with e.o. or mct. I prefer safflower oil over any cotton seed or grape seed oil. I always shoot for 1-2% ba and minimal bb to hold hormone in suspension without crashing, but test e at 4-500 per ml is doable with little pip if you know what your doing and test C around 300 but sometimes you got to play with it because depending on ambient temp (storage) it can crash too. Once you start really getting good you can create some masterpieces lol

 

[Mac81]

I never get any pip from test at any concentration unless it's propionate, I found it's usually the BA for me personally, 5% kicks like a mule,2% or less is smooth as butter, I usually only put 1% ,I been brewing my own for 12 years and had painful batches only a couple times until I discovered my body hates BA, 1% is all I ever use now and I can't even feel where I put it in. I have been quite successful even pushing the concentrations higher, test as high as 350 and tren ace at 200 and I had zero pain,test prop I can't even work out anymore because the pain is so bad whatever part of my body I put it in is crippled for a week,I won't even touch it anymore.. Anyhow that's my two cents,good luck

 

[Notamemberhere]

Why do some of you guys prefer Test E over C? Seeing as they have very similar pharmacokinetics, but C is generally better tolerated with less variance from batch to batch, what would make someone want to stick with E? Do you just feel better on E? Feel like you metabolize the E ester better? Have been curious about this as I see a lot of similar threads on questions like this.

i interchanged test e and c for trt a few times, both 40mg every 3 days, and in my experience test e is a bit more "aggressive", meaning hits harder, test c is more stable.

 

[Mac81]

i interchanged test e and c for trt a few times, both 40mg every 3 days, and in my experience test e is a bit more "aggressive", meaning hits harder, test c is more stable.

I like it because of the fewer injections, It's got a longer half life

 

[SnowyMiami]

Why do some of you guys prefer Test E over C? Seeing as they have very similar pharmacokinetics, but C is generally better tolerated with less variance from batch to batch, what would make someone want to stick with E? Do you just feel better on E? Feel like you metabolize the E ester better? Have been curious about this as I see a lot of similar threads on questions like this.

Kurt Havens strongly recommends E over C because the cyclic ring in the C molecule screws up how it is metabolized. I tend to trust his advice but people will ardently defend whatever they are already using.

 

[micro2000]

My experience is that if your enanthate raws are still powder form, you are usually good to go. Once they begin to liquify, the longer you wait the more decomposition and pain.

 

[Mac81]

My experience is that if your enanthate raws are still powder form, you are usually good to go. Once they begin to liquify, the longer you wait the more decomposition and pain.

I totally agree!!! That's
one of a few reasons I quit messing with it. It hurts like hell as soon as it melts, and the shit melts just by looking at it sideways, sometimes it shows up that way in the mail. It's a pain in the ass to store unless you freeze it. I was always
curious if anybody else had the same experience.

 

[LGOP528]

Kurt Havens strongly recommends E over C because the cyclic ring in the C molecule screws up how it is metabolized. I tend to trust his advice but people will ardently defend whatever they are already using.

I tried E after hearing that. I did blood work and did not see a difference that couldn’t be explained by the concentration difference and injection volume error. But I felt like the intra day profile was better. I don’t know if that makes sense.

I like it and prefer it over C.

Kurt is the man. I trust is input as well.

 

[Mac81]

What is test d? Undeconate?

 

[Sampei]

What is test d? Undeconate?

Nope test U is undecaonate
Test D is decanoate ester

 

[Fizzik]

Can Test D be brewed with no BB? Or 10% or less. I seem to get headaches shortly after pinning if it's high BB. I believe it's the high BB.

 

[Sampei]

Can Test D be brewed with no BB? Or 10% or less. I seem to get headaches shortly after pinning if it's high BB. I believe it's the high BB.

Probably yes but at low concentration

 

[Excel.exe]

Kurt Havens strongly recommends E over C because the cyclic ring in the C molecule screws up how it is metabolized. I tend to trust his advice but people will ardently defend whatever they are already using.

do you also trust his advice on 150mg or higher oral winstrol per day during the prep week?

 

[SnowyMiami]

I tried E after hearing that. I did blood work and did not see a difference that couldn’t be explained by the concentration difference and injection volume error. But I felt like the intra day profile was better. I don’t know if that makes sense.

I like it and prefer it over C.

Kurt is the man. I trust is input as well.

This is what Kurt put on his forum:

"So the basic concept of the compartments of metabolism are doses stacking. Cyclic aromatic rings on esters seem to prevent this from occurring. Or so I’m working on now with testosterone. That’s what send to happen with NPP. It’s neither a shirt ester nor does it build in serum effectively "

 

[LGOP528]

This is what Kurt put on his forum:

"So the basic concept of the compartments of metabolism are doses stacking. Cyclic aromatic rings on esters seem to prevent this from occurring. Or so I’m working on now with testosterone. That’s what send to happen with NPP. It’s neither a shirt ester nor does it build in serum effectively "

I am going to have to go over this. I really don’t understand organic chemistry.

Is his forum worth it?

 

[SnowyMiami]

I am going to have to go over this. I really don’t understand organic chemistry.

Is his forum worth it?

It's really slow but people use real names and post thoughtful replies. People seem to be genuinely concerned with not wrecking their health. Kurt is participating in most threads.

Meso is more entertaining for all the trainwreck cycles and people messing themselves up with Chinese peptides. The advice here is generally horrendous reddit stuff.

 

[LGOP528]

It's really slow but people use real names and post thoughtful replies. People seem to be genuinely concerned with not wrecking their health. Kurt is participating in most threads.

Meso is more entertaining for all the trainwreck cycles and people messing themselves up with Chinese peptides. The advice here is generally horrendous reddit stuff.

His behind a paywall so that is going to keep a lot of the riff raff out so I could see that.

I have learned a lot on here and it definitely keeps me entertained.

I kinda approached it like starting a new job. At first keep your mouth shut and observe, see who is the real deal and who is full of shit. There are some really smart guys on here and if you listen to them, you will be ok.

 

[LGOP528]

It's really slow but people use real names and post thoughtful replies. People seem to be genuinely concerned with not wrecking their health. Kurt is participating in most threads.

Meso is more entertaining for all the trainwreck cycles and people messing themselves up with Chinese peptides. The advice here is generally horrendous reddit stuff.

I should clarify, when I say keep your mouth shut and observe. I mean I would engage and ask questions but not argue. I meant it as an expression.

Anyway, I like it here.

 

[Sampei]

It's really slow but people use real names and post thoughtful replies. People seem to be genuinely concerned with not wrecking their health. Kurt is participating in most threads.

Meso is more entertaining for all the trainwreck cycles and people messing themselves up with Chinese peptides. The advice here is generally horrendous reddit stuff.

You are so full of shit lol
Go back to Kurt bullshit forum. NPP doesn't build in serum effectively ahahahhaha

Here it's generally horrendous Reddit stuff? Get fucked

 

[LGOP528]

You are so full of shit lol
Go back to Kurt bullshit forum. NPP doesn't build in serum effectively ahahahhaha

Here it's generally horrendous Reddit stuff? Get fucked

What does build in serum mean?


Seems there are some issues with what Kurt says. I don’t understand organic chemistry and I am not a BB, so no prep week for me. Probably why I missed these.