why do most people say "test is best broo"? as if its fact?

[Shredzzz]

is test the BEST steroid? or do internet armchair scientists just push the idea that it is because of the sunk cost fallacy?
because the whole idea of using steroids in lieu of test is the similar or greater results with fewer sides.

A lot of forum users like to pontificate test being the best, "you need test in your cycle man". "test is natural", but 10mg of test is a day is natural for healthy young men, not 100mg a day.

when imagine aesthetics, i think of danny padilla, gunnar rosbo, bill pearl.

 

[BigDadd7]

Because it is

 

[dinfar1337]

is test the BEST steroid? or do internet armchair scientists just push the idea that it is because of the sunk cost fallacy?
because the whole idea of using steroids in lieu of test is the similar or greater results with fewer sides.

A lot of forum users like to pontificate test being the best, "you need test in your cycle man". "test is natural", but 10mg of test is a day is natural for healthy young men, not 100mg a day.

when imagine aesthetics, i think of danny padilla, gunnar rosbo, bill pearl.

i dont understand what your question is, do you just want a simple yes/or question or what answer are you looking for?

 

[dinfar1337]

people just give yes/no answers

They don’t actually explain it.

Test is the cheapest, that is true

you can go try being on high testosterone for a long time, theres so much stuff to say about it. im asking you what you specifially are looking for. otherwise you are gonna get a yes/no answer

test is the best brudda

 

[Juicedhead]

because its the most tolerable and gives good gains.

 

[rxzed]

is test the BEST steroid? or do internet armchair scientists just push the idea that it is because of the sunk cost fallacy?
because the whole idea of using steroids in lieu of test is the similar or greater results with fewer sides.

A lot of forum users like to pontificate test being the best, "you need test in your cycle man". "test is natural", but 10mg of test is a day is natural for healthy young men, not 100mg a day.

when imagine aesthetics, i think of danny padilla, gunnar rosbo, bill pearl.

There's no one best steroid. The "bioidentical" appeal to nature fallacy is just that.

 

[BigDadd7]

is test the BEST steroid? or do internet armchair scientists just push the idea that it is because of the sunk cost fallacy?
because the whole idea of using steroids in lieu of test is the similar or greater results with fewer sides.

A lot of forum users like to pontificate test being the best, "you need test in your cycle man". "test is natural", but 10mg of test is a day is natural for healthy young men, not 100mg a day.

when imagine aesthetics, i think of danny padilla, gunnar rosbo, bill pearl.

Danny Padilla is 5'2"

 

[romo]

Danny Padilla is 5'2"

The giant killer

 

[xrayphoton13]

For me it's due to tolerability. I did cycles like Danny Padilla using deca/dbol and no test. Did it work? Sure. Did I like how I felt all day every day? No. But I can run the same amount of test or higher and still feel good. You'll find when trying a lot of these steroids that you feel different or not quite yourself. You can probably deal with it the first few cycles but over time you might get sick of it when the excitement wears off

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

For normal dosing..
Because you shouldn't do a cycle without it. Can be in it forever(TRT).

Most sustainable and life changing anabolic steroid.

 

[DugPrime]

Because you can run 2-3g a week, do much more gains than when using tren/deca like some dumb peoples are doing here, and still have mild effects on health.

 

[permission to land]

Low dose test and a DHT or 19 nor is better than test alone at the same mg. Why? Less sides and more tissue.

And before people start shitting over the ChatGPT, it pulls research from studies! So sit down







1. Nandrolone (NPP) vs. High-Dose Testosterone – Body Composition and Water Retention

• Study: “Comparative effects of testosterone enanthate and nandrolone decanoate on muscle strength and body composition”
  • Findings: Both compounds increased lean mass, but nandrolone showed less water retention and better nitrogen retention, making it more favourable for lean gains.
  • Source: Clinical Endocrinology (1996), Vol 45, Issue
• Study: “Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of nandrolone esters”
  • Findings: Nandrolone causes less aromatisation to oestrogen than testosterone, explaining lower bloat and gyno risk.
  • Source: Journal of Clinical Pharmacology (1990)

2. Cardiovascular Impact and Lipid Profile


Study: “Anabolic steroids adversely affect lipoproteins, blood pressure, and left ventricular function”

• 500mg/week of testosterone significantly reduced HDL (good cholesterol) and worsened total cholesterol ratio.
• Lower doses (e.g., 200mg) were much more stable.
• Source: American Journal of Medicine (1996)

• Nandrolone has a lesser negative effect on HDL compared to testosterone, though it still suppresses it.
  • Source: “Nandrolone decanoate and lipid profiles” – European Journal of Applied Physiology (2001)

3. Joint Health and Recovery with Nandrolone

• Study: “Nandrolone decanoate increases collagen synthesis in tendon”
  • Shows nandrolone supports connective tissue repair and joint resilience.
  • Source: American Journal of Sports Medicine (2006)

This backs the anecdotal reports of people feeling better on NPP—especially when training heavy or frequently.


4. Prolactin Side Effects with Nandrolone

• Study: “Hyperprolactinemia and sexual dysfunction in men using anabolic steroids”
  • Nandrolone can increase prolactin, leading to libido issues or emotional flatness in some users.
  • This is dose and sensitivity dependent, and not universal.
  • Source: Journal of Sexual Medicine (2009)

5. Testosterone Monotherapy: Gains vs. Side Effects

• Study: “Testosterone dose-response in healthy young men” (Bhasin et al., NEJM)
  • 600mg/week testosterone = major increases in muscle size and strength
  • Also showed increased oestrogen, water retention, and lipid suppression
  • Source: New England Journal of Medicine (1996)

 

[dinfar1337]

Low dose test and a DHT or 19 nor is better than test alone at the same mg. Why? Less sides and more tissue.

lean mass gains;
low test + dht = slow.
moderate test alone = faster
you cant even use your robot properly motherfucker!

 

[explodingHeart]

it's all we can afford after QSC shut down

 

[BigDadd7]

Low dose test and a DHT or 19 nor is better than test alone at the same mg. Why? Less sides and more tissue.

And before people start shitting over the ChatGPT, it pulls research from studies! So sit down

We shit on chat GPT because the people using it aren't speaking from experience. We come to this forum to hear people's actual experience. We want to hear from some big jacked guy on how he got big. We don't want a study on the size increase of a rodents scrotum, a study on senior citizens, a study on prebuscent skinny children, or people with cancer.

 

[dinfar1337]

We shit on chat GPT because the people using it aren't speaking from experience. We come to this forum to hear people's actual experience. We want to hear from some big jacked guy on how he got big. We don't want a study on the size increase of a rodents scrotum, a study on senior citizens, a study on prebuscent skinny children, or people with cancer.

also the studies are limited to how high the dosage they can go up to and its limited in time since they cant risk patients getting damaged. that study only and only goes up to 600mg testosterone for 20 weeks. and everytime group that had higher dosage of testosterone showed significant more increase in muscle mass over the 20 week period

 

[oldmanwilliams]

I don't know if testosterone is the best. You need testosterone to keep your gains. But it is suppressive. For example, oral only cycles can give great results but without test, you lose those gains quickly. But the downside is if you take test, you suppress or shut yourself down, so it's a much bigger commitment. Can't just hop on or off so easily. Needs more planning.

Besides squeezing in a short oral only cycle once in awhile (it can make sense in your life even if it is not optimal), it makes sense to use test. It cements gains.

 

[dinfar1337]

I don't know if testosterone is the best. You need testosterone to keep your gains. But it is suppressive. For example, oral only cycles can give great results but without test, you lose those gains quickly. But the downside is if you take test, you suppress or shut yourself down, so it's a much bigger commitment. Can't just hop on or off so easily. Needs more planning.

Besides squeezing in a short oral only cycle once in awhile (it can make sense in your life even if it is not optimal), it makes sense to use test. It cements gains.

wtf is your ass yapping about. aint nothing good about a oral only cycle dr mike israetel

 

[CaptainAll]

Test is shit. And you do not need 2000mg of test to grow. 500mg Deca destroys any dose of test

 

[Benf15harp]

I think I’ll trust Frank Thomas , Terrell Owens and Doug Flutie when it comes to which roid is best over your bS