just wanted to gauge people's opinion on whether this will ever happen

Do you think we will ever have the ideal combined SARM+SERM?

  • Yes - It will be an ORAL in the NEAR future

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Yes - It will be an ORAL in the FAR future

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Yes - It will be a SUBQ/IM in the NEAR future

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes - It will be a SUBQ/IM in the FAR future

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes - It will be a VIRAL VECTOR in the NEAR future

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes - It will be a VIRAL VECTOR in the FAR future

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No - We'll never make the ideal SARM+SERM

    Votes: 8 80.0%

  • Total voters
    10

birthdefectAU

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Hi Meso, this is my first post here. I originally made an account just so it would be easier to lurk on the site and view images, but I realised I couldn't comment on the Steroid Underground until I earn privileges to do so. This poll is something I've thought about for a while, I imagine its bound to happen eventually.

What I mean by the ideal SARM + SERM, is something that acts as both an estrogen and androgen antagonist within the pituitary and hypothalamus glands, and acts as an androgen agonist in muscle tissue. I'm sure readers here would know, maintaining separation between different androgen receptors can be a bit of a pain in the ass, which is why fully non suppressive SARMs don't seem to exist yet.

Out of the current SERMs that are available, I, and I'm sure many others, agree that enclomiphene is the best acting SERM for PCT. But there is one thing that, mechanistically, which I'm not the biggest fan of, it's effect on IGF-1. I'm sorry if this is a misinformed post and that its negative effect isn't that noticeable. I would imagine that the theoretical SARM+SERM would either not act on the liver at all or potentially act as a mild androgen receptor agonist.

What do you think?
 
People still taking sarms?
just a hypothetical, sarms are pretty much useless in my opinion
Hell no.... Loool - buuuut maybe I will give in for the hype of injectable YK11 in the future , just to see if there is anything to it..
why injectable? is there an advantage of taking sarms non orally?
Wild question because the answer already exists right here
im sorry about my blunder, appreciate it
 
why injectable? is there an advantage of taking sarms non orally?
I don't take sarms - but I am just a poor responder of orals in general, so I am pretty sure that inj. YK11 will disappoint me....

There should be a small advantage with ex. injectable Dbol over Dbol tabs.... a bit quicker in the bloodstream. -yep, tried both, and I prefer inj. but there is no magic about it, for me at least..
 
I don't take sarms - but I am just a poor responder of orals in general, so I am pretty sure that inj. YK11 will disappoint me....

There should be a small advantage with ex. injectable Dbol over Dbol tabs.... a bit quicker in the bloodstream. -yep, tried both, and I prefer inj. but there is no magic about it, for me at least..
interesting, thanks for responding brah. do you think the benefit of dbol entering the blood stream faster through injection outweighs the convenience of oral dbol?
 
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