cornedbeefhash
New Member
This is true. Pay attention Phreezer.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
UgFreak
- Thread starter TheRoid
- Start date
This is true. Pay attention Phreezer.
Stretch
Subscriber
I had a little respect for you before this.
Gone now.
I've seen the paperwork on Thorus and Russo.
If you had any integrity to left you would just shut the fuck up.
If you had any care for the community and not just yourself you would stop promoting/defending that COMPLETE SHIT board you brag about Modding at for a decade.
Since you've been there 10 years how many scams would you say you've seen purported against your members? You were an accomplice IMO.
I just can't believe this.. You are 100% wrong. The owner of olm is not this John Russo dude. I'm telling you, the admin is from Europe.
Please show me one piece of legitimate evidence that proves the owner of olm is named John Russo.
Just because you say something is so doesn't make it so.
Please show me one piece of legitimate evidence that proves the owner of olm is named John Russo.
Just because you say something is so doesn't make it so.
To Stretch.. I don't give two shits what you think or what your opinion is.
Stretch
Subscriber
Well, that would mean that the former MODs who talk to Ben, and/or Ben himself are lying.
Does Thorus source at OLM?
Stretch
Subscriber
Likewise....thief. You modded at OLM while I was scammed by one of their sources.
You wanna rob somebody. Do it like a man. Not with a keyboard.
Would you believe BigKarch if he told you OLM admin is John Russo? Why don't you ask him to post here agreeing with you that I am wrong? Please? Not gonna are you?
Sure Ben,... BigKarch please post your proof. I'd love to see it.
Ben, please post the proof your making your allegation from that this John Russo owns OLM.
If your allegation is true you should be able to provide some physical proof right? Something other than he said she said.
And please ask BigKarch to post whatever proof he has as well...
If your allegation is true you should be able to provide some physical proof right? Something other than he said she said.
And please ask BigKarch to post whatever proof he has as well...
In the whole scheme of things, I suppose it's not even that important? The FACT that OLM admin is John Russo and was granted the "Safety Valve" or was granted a 5k1 doesn't really matter as long as he's not trying to walk the main line on the inside.
I don't understand why you keep saying John doesn't live in the states and isn't a citizen? What exactly is that supposed to prove.
The sooner you let the truth surface the sooner this will go away and we'll be talking about something else.
I don't understand why you keep saying John doesn't live in the states and isn't a citizen? What exactly is that supposed to prove.
The sooner you let the truth surface the sooner this will go away and we'll be talking about something else.
Humana life group - Page 10
This guy says I'm doing OK? I'm a guest of his. I have plenty of enemies on the boards. The fact that 95% of them are sources and the plants/shills that are after the money of the members of the boards I frequent helps keep my fragile ego from completely disintegrating.
I most certainly understand and I'm also very comfortable knowing that the owners and admins of the handful of boards I frequent are at times completely disgusted and offended by the way I go about my business on those boards.
I use offensive language. I openly challenge and, at times, threaten those I find a threat to that specific board and its members with physical violence or with a campaign to expose them for what they are. I openly make posts that the majority of decent people would label reckless, over the top and tasteless.
I am tolerated and given status at these boards not because I'm paying sponsorship fees or representing a source on their board that is generating an influx of new members or any type of revenue for them or any other reason besides the fact that I have the best interests of the regular, everyday board members and the community as whole in mind and as my motivation for my actions.
The men behind these boards are convinced and know I have no ulterior motive other than to expose dishonest people and to do my best to keep folks informed and from being conned. It pisses me the fuck off to see peoples hard earned money being flat out stolen without any penalty except to be banned only to come back under a different handle to repeat the crime.
Because really, what else is more important? IMO, it's in top 3 of my list of "Things that I actually care about and that can make for either a happy or miserable existence and that can provoke me to violence." Money.
I can't and won't hesitate to expose and attack those who put money ahead of most everything else, as I do, at the expense and well being of others. Meaning stealing from regular folks. Even this gov't of ours that I detest and the right wing politicians and law makers I wish pain, disease and death on have come around and have started to finally punish and imprison the garbage people that ruin lives and families, that exploit the elderly and make money off the backs of innocents.
Used to be financial crimes were punished with an insulting(to those ripped off) slap on the wrist. No longer. Identity theft has serious jail time. Those that scam and prey on the elderly and well meaning and exploit the innocent in order to come up are being pursued and fucked hard.
The Madoff's of the world are going inside until they're dead. My ex wife's ex boyfriend was slapped in the face with the big hard swinging dick of the feds for operating a Ponzi scheme that netted somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 million dollars. An 85yr sentence(true story) should make the lecherous, arrogant and evil among us think before ruining lives through deception and tactics that are the equivalent to strong armed robbery.
Money. These financial criminals ruin lives, destroy families and put people in the ground before their time. They are far worse, IMO, than any drug or drug dealer/cartel as an informed choice is not an option for those putting their money out there. People are planning for their children's future....for their elderly parents or whatever it is they decide to move their money in a certain direction.
In short, I believe when it comes to fighting for what's right, it takes all kinds of people and all sorts of tactics.
I'm in no way comparing myself to, or believe I am as important as the men I may mention next. I simply do so as a way to explain and maybe better explain my beliefs, intentions and position.
I know it's a very controversial and emotional subject....but I believe men like Dennis Weaver and Tim McVeigh are American Patriots(extremists without a doubt) and a necessary evil(I can't believe I just wrote that) to remind us that our country is not the country the Founding Fathers envisioned. When all the modern day issues that they could have no way seen coming nor comprehend are broken down to the basics, our rights as citizens are being walked all over and it's being done with lies, deception and intimidation.
I believe there is a very good chance that 9/11 was not the work of cave dwelling religious fanatics and a handful of box cutter wielding lunatics. I believe it was an attempt and successful conspiracy of our gov't to gain control over the citizens of our country through fear and to scare folks into agreeing with and allowing the Patriot Act which allows the gov't to operate and to violate our rights with impunity. No warrant is needed for phone taps or to enter private property and search.
The "domestic terrorists" I mentioned are waging war against the leaders of the country they love. The collateral damage(body count) from their actions are a fraction of the mass murder our gov't has committed domestically and abroad and have never been held accountable for. I love Wiki leaks and this new guy. The truth.
I believe our gov't introduced crack cocaine to the inner cities while perpetuating the conspiracy known as "Iran Contra". I believe our gov't has allowed our country as well as Asia and most of society to deal with a flood of high grade heroin by allowing Afghanistan to produce, and export a drug that has, over history, CHANGED history while at the same time claiming to fight a "War on Drugs" and creating a police state in our country.
Again, our little part of the world here can't and doesn't compare to life and death(to most of you...in a way and at times it does to me), but if I'm a mountain man planning to help overthrow our gov't to protect and look out for the rights of the citizens of our country(or the forums and our community here) through violence and other means, there are level headed men that are more intelligent than I am and care just as much for members, boards and the community.
Men that have been around since the beginning of the online world. Basskiller, mugzy, Millard, karius, Bigkarch and others that I'm just to exhausted to think of at the moment. These men have morals. They care about all the new guys that log on for the first time and have an interest in our world and want to be a part of it.
These new people are met with strategically placed ads by Uncle Z, Alin, World Pharma and IP(One down) and clones that model themselves after these degenerates. Money makers.....or thieves, but measured by money earned(stolen), they work.
BigA, Alin, Z John went the opposite direction of BigK, Millard and the other "Pioneers" I mentioned previously. They aren't about the people. They're about money at the expense of the truth and the good of the community.
New citizens of our community are then met with paid shills and plants that swear to God that these parasites are what the rest of us are all about. Deception. Lies.
The reps/shills aren't anything like the average board/community member. They're about making a few dollars. They couldn't make it on the used car lot so they'll follow the very simple plan laid out by the shit board owners and sources. Flood the forums and boards with post after dishonest post.
It's lame. I hate them.
Last edited:
Stretch
Subscriber
Who are you? And whatd you do with Ben?[
)]I havent seen you write like this before.
Agreed especially the 9/11 part people look at you like your crazy when you try to explain it to them [
)]
pittbox
New Member
You write of a dangerous topic that people are not talking about because they are scared or can't see because they are too brainwashed watching stupid TV shows and being materialistic / chronic consumers.
There is a movement. A BIG (non-violent) movement thats working to change this. Not sure if you know of them:
The Zeitgeist Movement Global
There are 3 FREE 2 hour series that I suggest everyone watch:
The Zeitgeist Film Series Gateway | Zeitgeist: The Movie, Zeitgeist: Addendum, Zeitgeist: Moving Forward
Its funny because I bet your post went over most people's head. What people don't realize is that the evidence is so damning your an idiot for not believing it.
I am feeling inspired tonight to lay out the sources of evidence for these of you who seek the red pill. The pill of truth.
9-11. We did it.
Watch this (this is not a Michael Moore film) but one with scientists / engineers and university's from all over the world looking at the evidence:
Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup
Why is it important we act ?
We are approaching a technological singularity. This is difficult to explain.
For the technical people who want the details:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity
If your an audio / visual learner check this out:
http://www.ted.com/talks/ray_kurzweil_on_how_technology_will_transform_us.html
If you don't know what Ted Talks are, learn today, its the smartest people of the world talking on important topics.
Technology will merge with the human brain. The human brain is in the process of being dissected and fully understood. Just like the human genome project where we got the "source code" of humans down to the 1's and 0's. Linear computing exists now and Moore's law is being reached but with 3d Computing (Quantum Computing) that shit has exponential more growth to go through.
We'll be able to live forever. Nanotechology (small machines in our body's) will be able to keep us alive forever.
Your genetic code will be altered to prevent disease and to maintain ideal cell conditions.
Think I am crazy already ? Well we'll be able to replace body parts sooner than you think with 3d printers:
Researchers closing in on printing 3-D hearts
A 3d printer is no joke. They can even be built industrial size and print "houses" in 1 day eliminating lots of manual labor needs.
Why 3D-Printed Houses Matter | Endless Innovation | Big Think)
http://blog.thezeitgeistmovement.com/blog/4ndy/evolution-3d-printing
What needs to happen SOON is a resource based economy where computers make the decisions, not humans. This means coordinating ALL the worlds resources and sharing it equally. This also means eliminating currency period. This is not communism, socialism or any of the other "keywords" people have been programmed to cry foul on and close their eyes. Ignorance is the enemy but Google has helped bridge the knowledge gap.
More info on resource based economy:
About RBE | THE RESOURCE BASED sharing ECONOMY
Resource Based Economy
Food production / water allocation / misc items and distribution will be managed by computers vs humans. Its not say you can't have anything but rather you can't have a disproportionate share.
Fun fact (feeding the world):
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_farming]Vertical farming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
Imagine building Empire State building type of buildings not supporting wall street but growing food hydroponically (and organically without pesticides / un-organic fertilizers). This is how you feed a world to include explosive population growth.
Why must we achieve this world state sooner than later ? Because of the sociopaths (they gravitate towards positions of power: NSA, Government, Military etc) of course. Sociopaths and those who seek power will lead us to war and we need to avoid a world war because through the distribution of information, increases the danger of destruction that is biological, nuclear and now computing. I don't think people realize that it does not take a large team to knock out a power plant through a computer attack. If your not off the grid and have a solid source of food and energy. Your vulnerable.
I don't think people realize how many of these people are out there. Before we judge them lets not forget that its a MENTAL DISEASE just like you may be born with a certain disease they didn't ask for this.
12 Million Americans Are Sociopaths | Washington's Blog
Many people say whatever I can't stop / this won't happen this is bullshit. Don't be a coward and don't be ignorant.
Educate your friends and family. Its the responsibility of the younger to convince the older folks of the facts with patience and respect. They've been brain washed. Our older brethren weren't lucky to of been born with access to so much information and be wired to be able to handle it / disseminate it:
New Media & Development Comm.
The non-violent and grassroots organizations are out there all over. We can solve world problems with engineers and scientists. Not marketers, salesmen, accountants, lawyers and politicians. It took 130,000 scientists to make the ATOM bomb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project). Why can't we harness people to solve issues like being able to travel the world whenever / wherever we want efficiently in under 2 hours: Why ET3? | Evacuated Tube Transport Technologies
Why must we slave away and work and bring in clients and other stupid things when we should be focusing on friends, family, hobby's and bodybuilding.
I know this is a deviation of topic but I think exposing the system for the farce that it is will allow things like AAS and enhancement to reach a new level of enlightenment in the quest to improve ourselves both physically and mentally.
Skip your Justin Bieber concerts, miss your Baseball game and forgo watching another 150 episode series of useless shit and take the time to researching everything / fact checking I just put up or ignore this and take the blue pill and live in your fake reality being a rat in the race right next to me. Lets work together people and get out of this together.
There is a movement. A BIG (non-violent) movement thats working to change this. Not sure if you know of them:
The Zeitgeist Movement Global
There are 3 FREE 2 hour series that I suggest everyone watch:
The Zeitgeist Film Series Gateway | Zeitgeist: The Movie, Zeitgeist: Addendum, Zeitgeist: Moving Forward
Its funny because I bet your post went over most people's head. What people don't realize is that the evidence is so damning your an idiot for not believing it.
I am feeling inspired tonight to lay out the sources of evidence for these of you who seek the red pill. The pill of truth.
9-11. We did it.
Watch this (this is not a Michael Moore film) but one with scientists / engineers and university's from all over the world looking at the evidence:
Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup
Why is it important we act ?
We are approaching a technological singularity. This is difficult to explain.
For the technical people who want the details:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity
If your an audio / visual learner check this out:
http://www.ted.com/talks/ray_kurzweil_on_how_technology_will_transform_us.html
If you don't know what Ted Talks are, learn today, its the smartest people of the world talking on important topics.
Technology will merge with the human brain. The human brain is in the process of being dissected and fully understood. Just like the human genome project where we got the "source code" of humans down to the 1's and 0's. Linear computing exists now and Moore's law is being reached but with 3d Computing (Quantum Computing) that shit has exponential more growth to go through.
We'll be able to live forever. Nanotechology (small machines in our body's) will be able to keep us alive forever.
Your genetic code will be altered to prevent disease and to maintain ideal cell conditions.
Think I am crazy already ? Well we'll be able to replace body parts sooner than you think with 3d printers:
Researchers closing in on printing 3-D hearts
A 3d printer is no joke. They can even be built industrial size and print "houses" in 1 day eliminating lots of manual labor needs.
Why 3D-Printed Houses Matter | Endless Innovation | Big Think)
http://blog.thezeitgeistmovement.com/blog/4ndy/evolution-3d-printing
What needs to happen SOON is a resource based economy where computers make the decisions, not humans. This means coordinating ALL the worlds resources and sharing it equally. This also means eliminating currency period. This is not communism, socialism or any of the other "keywords" people have been programmed to cry foul on and close their eyes. Ignorance is the enemy but Google has helped bridge the knowledge gap.
More info on resource based economy:
About RBE | THE RESOURCE BASED sharing ECONOMY
Resource Based Economy
Food production / water allocation / misc items and distribution will be managed by computers vs humans. Its not say you can't have anything but rather you can't have a disproportionate share.
Fun fact (feeding the world):
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_farming]Vertical farming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
Imagine building Empire State building type of buildings not supporting wall street but growing food hydroponically (and organically without pesticides / un-organic fertilizers). This is how you feed a world to include explosive population growth.
Why must we achieve this world state sooner than later ? Because of the sociopaths (they gravitate towards positions of power: NSA, Government, Military etc) of course. Sociopaths and those who seek power will lead us to war and we need to avoid a world war because through the distribution of information, increases the danger of destruction that is biological, nuclear and now computing. I don't think people realize that it does not take a large team to knock out a power plant through a computer attack. If your not off the grid and have a solid source of food and energy. Your vulnerable.
I don't think people realize how many of these people are out there. Before we judge them lets not forget that its a MENTAL DISEASE just like you may be born with a certain disease they didn't ask for this.
12 Million Americans Are Sociopaths | Washington's Blog
Many people say whatever I can't stop / this won't happen this is bullshit. Don't be a coward and don't be ignorant.
Educate your friends and family. Its the responsibility of the younger to convince the older folks of the facts with patience and respect. They've been brain washed. Our older brethren weren't lucky to of been born with access to so much information and be wired to be able to handle it / disseminate it:
New Media & Development Comm.
The non-violent and grassroots organizations are out there all over. We can solve world problems with engineers and scientists. Not marketers, salesmen, accountants, lawyers and politicians. It took 130,000 scientists to make the ATOM bomb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project). Why can't we harness people to solve issues like being able to travel the world whenever / wherever we want efficiently in under 2 hours: Why ET3? | Evacuated Tube Transport Technologies
Why must we slave away and work and bring in clients and other stupid things when we should be focusing on friends, family, hobby's and bodybuilding.
I know this is a deviation of topic but I think exposing the system for the farce that it is will allow things like AAS and enhancement to reach a new level of enlightenment in the quest to improve ourselves both physically and mentally.
Skip your Justin Bieber concerts, miss your Baseball game and forgo watching another 150 episode series of useless shit and take the time to researching everything / fact checking I just put up or ignore this and take the blue pill and live in your fake reality being a rat in the race right next to me. Lets work together people and get out of this together.
A little more on 911
By Mark H Gaffney
During a recent interview on Democracy Now, Noam Chomsky stated that he believes Osama bin Laden was probably behind the attacks of September 11, 2001.i The statement was curious because in earlier interviews Chomsky described the evidence against bin Laden as thin to nonexistent,ii which was accurate and, no doubt, explains why the US Department of Justice never indicted bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks.
Nor has any new evidence against bin Laden come to light; on the contrary. A compelling body of evidence now points in a very different direction, toward the unthinkable.
Three years ago (in July 2010) I attempted to engage Professor Chomsky in a conversation about this new evidence. Chomsky, however, showed no interest in the subject. After responding in a way that can only be described as incomprehensible, Chomsky repeated what he had stated in an earlier email: that skeptics of the official story should pursue the usual pathways to advance their ideas. In other words, they should publish their work.
By 2010, however, this had already been done. Indeed, my reason for contacting Chomsky at the time was to alert him to the serious implications of the new research that I will very briefly summarize in this article.
Before I do that, however, I need to preface this discussion with the obvious. Professor Chomsky has been one of our leading intellectuals for more than half a century. Since the time he first began to participate in teach-ins at MIT protesting the Vietnam War, Chomsky has mentored successive generations of US peace activists, including this writer. Much of what I know about geopolitics, especially the Middle East, I learned from Chomsky. The man’s grasp of the region’s history and its fractious politics is near-encyclopedic. I have never once caught Chomsky in a historical error. He seems never to forget a name, a date, or a place.
Beyond this, I owe Chomsky a personal debt of gratitude. Without his assistance my first book would never have seen print. Chomsky was there for me at a crucial moment, and I have no doubt that other writers and activists can relate similar stories. I was always amazed by the way Chomsky stayed on top of his correspondence, given the heavy demands on his time. Without fail, he would get right back. This kind of accessibility and generosity has no parallel in my experience, and it explains my respect for the man and my reluctance to criticize him. Nor would I do so now if the facts in the case were not so compelling, and the need so great.
Now, on to the evidence: In two peer-reviewed papers published in 2008-2009, independent scientists reported finding residues of nanothermite, an incendiary, in dust samples from the collapsed World Trade Center. The scientists also found tiny flakes of unexploded nanothermite.iii They found, in other words, not just the smoking gun but the gun itself. Nanothermite was originally developed for the US military at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.iv
Here was powerful evidence that the horrifying World Trade Center collapses witnessed that morning by a stunned world were likely caused by cutting-edge explosives, not, as we have been told ad nauseum, by plane impacts and fires. The publication of these papers should have been front-page news at the New York Times and Washington Post; but, of course, there was not a peep.
By this time, a large body of additional physical evidence, expert testimony, and eyewitness accounts also pointed to the same conclusion. See the following note for a concise summary and sources.v
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the federal agency charged to investigate the World Trade Center collapses, admitted that it failed to look for chemical residues, even though this is standard procedure in cases of building fires,vi a telling omission. Nor has anyone, thus far, attempted to refute the two papers cited above. They stand unchallenged in the scientific literature and must be viewed as the most up-to-date thinking on the issue.
By 2010, other important information had also come to light. In 2008, after years of foot-dragging, NIST finally released its report on the other steel-frame structure that collapsed on 9/11, Building Seven (WTC-7), which was located one block from the North Tower. Building Seven did not collapse on the morning of September 11, but later that afternoon, at 5:20 P.M.
In its final report on Building Seven, NIST tacitly conceded that the 47-story high-rise, with a base the size of a football field, dropped into its footprint at free-fall speed.vii The admission of free-fall was damning because this is the sine qua non of a controlled demolition. Interestingly, in its earlier draft report NIST had attempted to obscure the free-fall by fudging the start-time of the collapse. However, at a public hearing sponsored by NIST in August 2008, David Chandler, a high school physics teacher, and Dr. Steven Jones, a former professor of physics at Brigham Young University, asked penetrating questions that exposed the obfuscation. At the hearing senior scientists from NIST were unable to defend their work, a remarkable display of incompetence (though malfeasance is probably more accurate) that forced NIST back to the drawing boards. In its final report released two months later NIST tacitly acknowledged free-fall.viii Chandler has since posted a simple but thorough analysis of the WTC-7 collapse, based on video footage, showing that free-fall is indisputable.ix
By 2009 the facts were clear. The evidence pointed to the use of explosives at the World Trade Center, a very disturbing conclusion because Islamic terrorists could not have been responsible.
Nor was this all. By this time a separate line of evidence pointed in the same direction. A statistical study by Allen Poteshman published in 2006 in the Journal of Business found that early press reports about pre-9/11 insider trading were almost certainly correct. Poteshman studied trading data from the Chicago Board Option Exchange (CBOE), and concluded that “there is evidence of unusual option market activity in the days leading up to September 11 that is consistent with investors trading on advance knowledge of the attacks.”x Two other more recent papers also support Poteshman’s work.xi These academic papers also deserved to be headline news, because they flatly contradict claims by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and the 9/11 Commission that there was no insider trading in the days prior to 9/11.xii Once again, however, the US media took the day off.
Surely one not need be a structural engineer or a professor of statistics to understand what all of this means. The possibility that Islamic terrorists somehow obtained explosives that were developed here in the US and managed to sneak into the World Trade Center unawares and plant them beforehand along with the necessary control technology is approximately zero. The probable use of explosives and the strong likelihood of insider trading tells us that highly-placed individuals on Wall Street were complicit in the 9/11 attacks. No other conclusion is possible. Although we do not yet know the full degree of their complicity, it had to be at the highest level.
By 2010 such a conclusion should have been evident to every thinking American. Even so, at the time I was prepared to cut Chomsky some slack. Everyone, after all, is at a different place on the learning curve. Chomsky’s recent statements on Democracy Now, however, indicate that his views on 9/11 have not evolved and may even have regressed. Therefor, I believe we must now hold Chomsky (and other left-wing gatekeepers) accountable for statements about 9/11 that amount to denial. Sorry, but there is no other word for it.
Judging from his emails, Chomsky thinks 9/11 truth is a distraction “that draws energy away from activism to oppose shocking crimes of state.” Such a view is not only mistaken, it is incomprehensible. However, before I comment further, here is the relevant passage from the email that I received from Chomsky in July 2010. The reader may draw his or her own conclusions:
“I'm surprised, however, that you cannot see that if your claims [about 9/11] are correct, the [sic] absolve George Bush and point the finger at Saddam and bin Laden. History may regard it as curious that so many people have labored so hard for 9 years to establish this conclusion, believing themselves to be courageous dissidents, and having no impact on policy apart from drawing energy away from activism to oppose shocking crimes of state.”xiii
I was dumfounded when I read Chomsky’s email. How does one respond to his strange assertion that 9/11 truth absolves Bush? The evidence pointing to complicity on Wall Street does nothing of the sort. If the financial elite was involved, then, the 9/11 attacks must rank as the most audacious crime of state in US history. Far from distracting us, the latest evidence serves to empower us. What better way to oppose crimes of state than by unmasking the perpetrators?
Chomsky is one of the most rational people in the western hemisphere. Despite advancing age, he remains sharp. So, how do we explain his aversion to 9/11 truth? It is an interesting question, and I have some thoughts about it. However, in my opinion, the reason (whatever it is) is less important than the simple fact that one of our leading intellectuals has lost his way on a key issue.
9/11 is key because 9/11 was the pivotal event that set the stage for everything that has occurred since. But 9/11 is also key for another reason, one that Chomsky should understand but does not. The terrible truth about that fateful day holds the power to unite Americans of every political persuasion. This is why unmasking the big lie is so important. The untold truth about 9/11 could yet rally the 99% against the financial elite, including the much smaller group of insiders who rule this country from behind the scenes. The same individuals shape US foreign policy and are thus responsible for crimes of state. No doubt, many of the same people were also responsible for dismantling the US economy, off-shoring millions of jobs, creating the real estate bubble, the 2008 meltdown, the continuing bail-outs to the corrupt too-big-to-fails, and as we have recently learned, the blackmailing of Congressmen and government officials by means of unlimited surveillance, and so on.
One would think that the Left would have awakened to this long ago, and embraced 9/11 truth. Sadly, it never happened. Many prominent Left-wing gatekeepers continue to serve as unwitting tools of power by ridiculing skeptics of the official 9/11 story. If we survive the coming days with a measure of equanimity and are able to look back to the present with the advantage of hindsight, their blind servility will be obvious at a glance. Surely, this explains the continuing malaise of the US peace movement.
Today, there is no one to look up to. We have no leaders worthy of the name, certainly none on the Left. The same may be said of US institutions. None are worthy of our respect. We are on our own. We need to recognize this, accept it, and commit ourselves to helping one another in the difficult days that lie ahead.
Mark H. Gaffney’s latest book is Black 9/11: Money, Motive and Technology (Trineday, 2012). Check out his website at GnosticSecrets.com Mark can be reached for comment at
Notes
i http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35114.htm
ii For example, see Noam Chomsky: No Evidence that al Qaeda Carried Out the 9/11 Attacks - Video Dailymotion
iii Kevin R. Ryan, James R. Gourley, Steven E. Jones, “Environmental anomalies at the World Trade Center: evidence for energetic materials,” Environmentalist (2009) 29:56–63. First posted on line in 2008.
http://scientistsfor911truth.org/docs/Ryan_EnvironmentalAnomalies.pdf
Niels H. Harrit et al, “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe,” The Open Chemical Physics Journal, 2009, 2, 7-31. Posted at
http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.htm
iv Kevin Ryan, “The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites,” 9/11Review.com, July 2, 2008, posted at The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites
The Los Alamos National Lab has also developed thermite matches. http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/tt/pdf/techs/thermite_matches.pdf
v The physical evidence is consistent with the use of explosives. Extremely high temperatures persisted at the World Trade Center for many weeks after 9/11. The temperatures were in excess of 4500 F, far far beyond what can be explained by burning jet fuel and office fires. For a good summary see James Gourley, The 9/11 Toronto Report (Dallas, International Center for 9/11 Studies, 2013); also see David Ray Griffin, The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7 (Northhampton, MA, Olive Branch Press, 2010).
With regard to testimony by experts: more than 1900 architects and engineers now agree that the plane impacts and fires could not and did not cause the World Trade Center collapses on 9/11. Hear them explain why the official story cannot be right in this excellent video [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4&feature=player_embedded]AE911Truth Experts Speak Out - YouTube[/ame]
In addition to many press accounts, 118 New York City firemen reported explosions at the World Trade Center. The 9/11 Commission had all of this testimony but ignored it. For an excellent discussion see the paper by Graeme MacQueen posted at
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf
vi See question #22. FAQs - NIST WTC Towers Investigation
vii See the diagram on page 46. NIST Manuscript Publication Search
viii Ibid.
ix In its final report, NIST nonetheless attempted to finesse the issue by incorporating free-fall within a computer-generated collapse model. NIST claimed that WTC-7 had suffered a so-called “progressive collapse.” Although a forensic examination of recovered steel columns from the WTC rubble pile would have definitively resolved the matter, NIST had none to study because during the weeks after 9/11 nearly all of the steel columns from the World Trade Center rubble pile (including Building Seven) were removed from the site, sold, and shipped abroad. This destruction of evidence was itself a crime.
In the absence of physical evidence, NIST resorted to a computer model. It also proposed a new phenomenon to explain the collapse of Building Seven, what experts at NIST called “thermal expansion.” NIST argued that the heat from the building fires in WTC-7 caused floor beams to expand and detach from one main core column (#79), setting in motion a catastrophic collapse within the structure that was not visible from without until the last instant when the whole building came down. The temperature at which all of this happened: a mere 570 degrees F.
The low temperature at which catastrophic failure supposedly occurred should have raised skeptical eyebrows, because the insulation protecting the building’s steel infrastructure remained intact throughout the structure. No plane impacted WTC-7. NIST also acknowledged that the collapse of the nearby North Tower caused only minor damage to one corner of WTC-7 and played no significant role.
NIST’s explanation for the collapse of Building Seven amounted to an extraordinary claim because no steel-frame high-rise has ever failed due to thermal expansion, not before nor since. As Carl Sagan once said, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” But the only evidence NIST offered was a computer-generated model that no one outside of NIST has ever seen. NIST has yet to explain how minor fires on just six floors (out of 47) triggered an unprecedented phenomenon across an entire structure. The fact that NIST refused to allow independent scientists access to its computer model, essential for verification, is the clearest indication that the NIST investigation was rigged: a scientific fraud.
x Allen M. Poteshman, “Unusual Option Market Activity and the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001,” Journal of Business, 2006, vol. 79, no. 4. Archived at http://www.milkingtheherd.com/images/Poteshman 911 Insider Trading Paper.pdf
xi Marc Chesney, Remo Crameri and Loriano Mancini, “Detecting Informed Trading Activities in the Options Markets,” Swiss Financial Institute Research Paper No. 11-42, July 3, 2012. Posted at Detecting Informed Trading Activities in the Options Markets by Marc Chesney, Remo Crameri, Loriano Mancini :: SSRN
Wing-Keung Wong, Howard E. Thompson and Kweehong Teh, “Was there Abnormal Trading in the S&P 500 Index Options Prior to the September 11 Attacks?”, Multinational Finance Journal, 2011, vol. 15, no. 1/2, pp. 1–46. Posted at Was There Abnormal Trading in the S&P 500 Index Options Prior to the September 11 Attacks? by Wing-Keung Wong, Howard E. Thompson, Kweehong Teh :: SSRN
xii For an excellent discussion see Point G-2 | Consensus 911
xiii email from Chomsky, July 8, 201
By Mark H Gaffney
During a recent interview on Democracy Now, Noam Chomsky stated that he believes Osama bin Laden was probably behind the attacks of September 11, 2001.i The statement was curious because in earlier interviews Chomsky described the evidence against bin Laden as thin to nonexistent,ii which was accurate and, no doubt, explains why the US Department of Justice never indicted bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks.
Nor has any new evidence against bin Laden come to light; on the contrary. A compelling body of evidence now points in a very different direction, toward the unthinkable.
Three years ago (in July 2010) I attempted to engage Professor Chomsky in a conversation about this new evidence. Chomsky, however, showed no interest in the subject. After responding in a way that can only be described as incomprehensible, Chomsky repeated what he had stated in an earlier email: that skeptics of the official story should pursue the usual pathways to advance their ideas. In other words, they should publish their work.
By 2010, however, this had already been done. Indeed, my reason for contacting Chomsky at the time was to alert him to the serious implications of the new research that I will very briefly summarize in this article.
Before I do that, however, I need to preface this discussion with the obvious. Professor Chomsky has been one of our leading intellectuals for more than half a century. Since the time he first began to participate in teach-ins at MIT protesting the Vietnam War, Chomsky has mentored successive generations of US peace activists, including this writer. Much of what I know about geopolitics, especially the Middle East, I learned from Chomsky. The man’s grasp of the region’s history and its fractious politics is near-encyclopedic. I have never once caught Chomsky in a historical error. He seems never to forget a name, a date, or a place.
Beyond this, I owe Chomsky a personal debt of gratitude. Without his assistance my first book would never have seen print. Chomsky was there for me at a crucial moment, and I have no doubt that other writers and activists can relate similar stories. I was always amazed by the way Chomsky stayed on top of his correspondence, given the heavy demands on his time. Without fail, he would get right back. This kind of accessibility and generosity has no parallel in my experience, and it explains my respect for the man and my reluctance to criticize him. Nor would I do so now if the facts in the case were not so compelling, and the need so great.
Now, on to the evidence: In two peer-reviewed papers published in 2008-2009, independent scientists reported finding residues of nanothermite, an incendiary, in dust samples from the collapsed World Trade Center. The scientists also found tiny flakes of unexploded nanothermite.iii They found, in other words, not just the smoking gun but the gun itself. Nanothermite was originally developed for the US military at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.iv
Here was powerful evidence that the horrifying World Trade Center collapses witnessed that morning by a stunned world were likely caused by cutting-edge explosives, not, as we have been told ad nauseum, by plane impacts and fires. The publication of these papers should have been front-page news at the New York Times and Washington Post; but, of course, there was not a peep.
By this time, a large body of additional physical evidence, expert testimony, and eyewitness accounts also pointed to the same conclusion. See the following note for a concise summary and sources.v
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the federal agency charged to investigate the World Trade Center collapses, admitted that it failed to look for chemical residues, even though this is standard procedure in cases of building fires,vi a telling omission. Nor has anyone, thus far, attempted to refute the two papers cited above. They stand unchallenged in the scientific literature and must be viewed as the most up-to-date thinking on the issue.
By 2010, other important information had also come to light. In 2008, after years of foot-dragging, NIST finally released its report on the other steel-frame structure that collapsed on 9/11, Building Seven (WTC-7), which was located one block from the North Tower. Building Seven did not collapse on the morning of September 11, but later that afternoon, at 5:20 P.M.
In its final report on Building Seven, NIST tacitly conceded that the 47-story high-rise, with a base the size of a football field, dropped into its footprint at free-fall speed.vii The admission of free-fall was damning because this is the sine qua non of a controlled demolition. Interestingly, in its earlier draft report NIST had attempted to obscure the free-fall by fudging the start-time of the collapse. However, at a public hearing sponsored by NIST in August 2008, David Chandler, a high school physics teacher, and Dr. Steven Jones, a former professor of physics at Brigham Young University, asked penetrating questions that exposed the obfuscation. At the hearing senior scientists from NIST were unable to defend their work, a remarkable display of incompetence (though malfeasance is probably more accurate) that forced NIST back to the drawing boards. In its final report released two months later NIST tacitly acknowledged free-fall.viii Chandler has since posted a simple but thorough analysis of the WTC-7 collapse, based on video footage, showing that free-fall is indisputable.ix
By 2009 the facts were clear. The evidence pointed to the use of explosives at the World Trade Center, a very disturbing conclusion because Islamic terrorists could not have been responsible.
Nor was this all. By this time a separate line of evidence pointed in the same direction. A statistical study by Allen Poteshman published in 2006 in the Journal of Business found that early press reports about pre-9/11 insider trading were almost certainly correct. Poteshman studied trading data from the Chicago Board Option Exchange (CBOE), and concluded that “there is evidence of unusual option market activity in the days leading up to September 11 that is consistent with investors trading on advance knowledge of the attacks.”x Two other more recent papers also support Poteshman’s work.xi These academic papers also deserved to be headline news, because they flatly contradict claims by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and the 9/11 Commission that there was no insider trading in the days prior to 9/11.xii Once again, however, the US media took the day off.
Surely one not need be a structural engineer or a professor of statistics to understand what all of this means. The possibility that Islamic terrorists somehow obtained explosives that were developed here in the US and managed to sneak into the World Trade Center unawares and plant them beforehand along with the necessary control technology is approximately zero. The probable use of explosives and the strong likelihood of insider trading tells us that highly-placed individuals on Wall Street were complicit in the 9/11 attacks. No other conclusion is possible. Although we do not yet know the full degree of their complicity, it had to be at the highest level.
By 2010 such a conclusion should have been evident to every thinking American. Even so, at the time I was prepared to cut Chomsky some slack. Everyone, after all, is at a different place on the learning curve. Chomsky’s recent statements on Democracy Now, however, indicate that his views on 9/11 have not evolved and may even have regressed. Therefor, I believe we must now hold Chomsky (and other left-wing gatekeepers) accountable for statements about 9/11 that amount to denial. Sorry, but there is no other word for it.
Judging from his emails, Chomsky thinks 9/11 truth is a distraction “that draws energy away from activism to oppose shocking crimes of state.” Such a view is not only mistaken, it is incomprehensible. However, before I comment further, here is the relevant passage from the email that I received from Chomsky in July 2010. The reader may draw his or her own conclusions:
“I'm surprised, however, that you cannot see that if your claims [about 9/11] are correct, the [sic] absolve George Bush and point the finger at Saddam and bin Laden. History may regard it as curious that so many people have labored so hard for 9 years to establish this conclusion, believing themselves to be courageous dissidents, and having no impact on policy apart from drawing energy away from activism to oppose shocking crimes of state.”xiii
I was dumfounded when I read Chomsky’s email. How does one respond to his strange assertion that 9/11 truth absolves Bush? The evidence pointing to complicity on Wall Street does nothing of the sort. If the financial elite was involved, then, the 9/11 attacks must rank as the most audacious crime of state in US history. Far from distracting us, the latest evidence serves to empower us. What better way to oppose crimes of state than by unmasking the perpetrators?
Chomsky is one of the most rational people in the western hemisphere. Despite advancing age, he remains sharp. So, how do we explain his aversion to 9/11 truth? It is an interesting question, and I have some thoughts about it. However, in my opinion, the reason (whatever it is) is less important than the simple fact that one of our leading intellectuals has lost his way on a key issue.
9/11 is key because 9/11 was the pivotal event that set the stage for everything that has occurred since. But 9/11 is also key for another reason, one that Chomsky should understand but does not. The terrible truth about that fateful day holds the power to unite Americans of every political persuasion. This is why unmasking the big lie is so important. The untold truth about 9/11 could yet rally the 99% against the financial elite, including the much smaller group of insiders who rule this country from behind the scenes. The same individuals shape US foreign policy and are thus responsible for crimes of state. No doubt, many of the same people were also responsible for dismantling the US economy, off-shoring millions of jobs, creating the real estate bubble, the 2008 meltdown, the continuing bail-outs to the corrupt too-big-to-fails, and as we have recently learned, the blackmailing of Congressmen and government officials by means of unlimited surveillance, and so on.
One would think that the Left would have awakened to this long ago, and embraced 9/11 truth. Sadly, it never happened. Many prominent Left-wing gatekeepers continue to serve as unwitting tools of power by ridiculing skeptics of the official 9/11 story. If we survive the coming days with a measure of equanimity and are able to look back to the present with the advantage of hindsight, their blind servility will be obvious at a glance. Surely, this explains the continuing malaise of the US peace movement.
Today, there is no one to look up to. We have no leaders worthy of the name, certainly none on the Left. The same may be said of US institutions. None are worthy of our respect. We are on our own. We need to recognize this, accept it, and commit ourselves to helping one another in the difficult days that lie ahead.
Mark H. Gaffney’s latest book is Black 9/11: Money, Motive and Technology (Trineday, 2012). Check out his website at GnosticSecrets.com Mark can be reached for comment at
Code:
markhgaffney@earthlink.neti http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35114.htm
ii For example, see Noam Chomsky: No Evidence that al Qaeda Carried Out the 9/11 Attacks - Video Dailymotion
iii Kevin R. Ryan, James R. Gourley, Steven E. Jones, “Environmental anomalies at the World Trade Center: evidence for energetic materials,” Environmentalist (2009) 29:56–63. First posted on line in 2008.
http://scientistsfor911truth.org/docs/Ryan_EnvironmentalAnomalies.pdf
Niels H. Harrit et al, “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe,” The Open Chemical Physics Journal, 2009, 2, 7-31. Posted at
http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.htm
iv Kevin Ryan, “The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites,” 9/11Review.com, July 2, 2008, posted at The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites
The Los Alamos National Lab has also developed thermite matches. http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/tt/pdf/techs/thermite_matches.pdf
v The physical evidence is consistent with the use of explosives. Extremely high temperatures persisted at the World Trade Center for many weeks after 9/11. The temperatures were in excess of 4500 F, far far beyond what can be explained by burning jet fuel and office fires. For a good summary see James Gourley, The 9/11 Toronto Report (Dallas, International Center for 9/11 Studies, 2013); also see David Ray Griffin, The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7 (Northhampton, MA, Olive Branch Press, 2010).
With regard to testimony by experts: more than 1900 architects and engineers now agree that the plane impacts and fires could not and did not cause the World Trade Center collapses on 9/11. Hear them explain why the official story cannot be right in this excellent video [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4&feature=player_embedded]AE911Truth Experts Speak Out - YouTube[/ame]
In addition to many press accounts, 118 New York City firemen reported explosions at the World Trade Center. The 9/11 Commission had all of this testimony but ignored it. For an excellent discussion see the paper by Graeme MacQueen posted at
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf
vi See question #22. FAQs - NIST WTC Towers Investigation
vii See the diagram on page 46. NIST Manuscript Publication Search
viii Ibid.
ix In its final report, NIST nonetheless attempted to finesse the issue by incorporating free-fall within a computer-generated collapse model. NIST claimed that WTC-7 had suffered a so-called “progressive collapse.” Although a forensic examination of recovered steel columns from the WTC rubble pile would have definitively resolved the matter, NIST had none to study because during the weeks after 9/11 nearly all of the steel columns from the World Trade Center rubble pile (including Building Seven) were removed from the site, sold, and shipped abroad. This destruction of evidence was itself a crime.
In the absence of physical evidence, NIST resorted to a computer model. It also proposed a new phenomenon to explain the collapse of Building Seven, what experts at NIST called “thermal expansion.” NIST argued that the heat from the building fires in WTC-7 caused floor beams to expand and detach from one main core column (#79), setting in motion a catastrophic collapse within the structure that was not visible from without until the last instant when the whole building came down. The temperature at which all of this happened: a mere 570 degrees F.
The low temperature at which catastrophic failure supposedly occurred should have raised skeptical eyebrows, because the insulation protecting the building’s steel infrastructure remained intact throughout the structure. No plane impacted WTC-7. NIST also acknowledged that the collapse of the nearby North Tower caused only minor damage to one corner of WTC-7 and played no significant role.
NIST’s explanation for the collapse of Building Seven amounted to an extraordinary claim because no steel-frame high-rise has ever failed due to thermal expansion, not before nor since. As Carl Sagan once said, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” But the only evidence NIST offered was a computer-generated model that no one outside of NIST has ever seen. NIST has yet to explain how minor fires on just six floors (out of 47) triggered an unprecedented phenomenon across an entire structure. The fact that NIST refused to allow independent scientists access to its computer model, essential for verification, is the clearest indication that the NIST investigation was rigged: a scientific fraud.
x Allen M. Poteshman, “Unusual Option Market Activity and the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001,” Journal of Business, 2006, vol. 79, no. 4. Archived at http://www.milkingtheherd.com/images/Poteshman 911 Insider Trading Paper.pdf
xi Marc Chesney, Remo Crameri and Loriano Mancini, “Detecting Informed Trading Activities in the Options Markets,” Swiss Financial Institute Research Paper No. 11-42, July 3, 2012. Posted at Detecting Informed Trading Activities in the Options Markets by Marc Chesney, Remo Crameri, Loriano Mancini :: SSRN
Wing-Keung Wong, Howard E. Thompson and Kweehong Teh, “Was there Abnormal Trading in the S&P 500 Index Options Prior to the September 11 Attacks?”, Multinational Finance Journal, 2011, vol. 15, no. 1/2, pp. 1–46. Posted at Was There Abnormal Trading in the S&P 500 Index Options Prior to the September 11 Attacks? by Wing-Keung Wong, Howard E. Thompson, Kweehong Teh :: SSRN
xii For an excellent discussion see Point G-2 | Consensus 911
xiii email from Chomsky, July 8, 201
i did not expect to see the zeitgeist movement mentioned on this board. off comes my hat, just remember to filter what you listen to in those movies, a lot of it is opinion and not indisputable fact, still, worth a watch for everyone. they certainly wont make you dumber at least 
Similar threads
