RezAtDorsia
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gram and a half of EQ would make your blood thicker than peanut butter! Got hematocrit? lol
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gram and a half of EQ would make your blood thicker than peanut butter! Got hematocrit? lol
I actually prefer an IGF1 test then a HGH serum test when it comes to testing HGH in the blood. They are just a little more expensive. I honestly don't know of anyone that actually took ghrp-6 and then got their IGF1 levels checked or a HGH serum test. Their might be some of these tests at ProMuscle. Maybe Muscle96ss would have some insight on this. He is a well respeceted member of the community, and I think he has been at ProMuscle since they opened.
Hello again, 96. Yes, rajjin is here. The Doc is a wealth of information. I can't always follow as the terminology and such is a bit over my head. I've never used generic gh of any kind. I've got a bag full of serostim though. I've been back "on" now for a few weeks. About 4iu/ed is where I'm at.
A couple of things trouble me in regards to generic gh of any kind. I always try and post up what I believe to be the truth. The first is that the the one generic that has "Consistently" tested out strong has been riptropin. I'll qualify that by saying not ALL rips. There are 2 authorized distributors of riptropins(as far as I know). The 2 being TP and HK(u mentioned him).
There is a fella here that is trusted and gets up a group purchase of rips every month or 2 as he is in with HK. As long as the kits originated with 1 of the 2 all is well.
HK(maybe TP?) also has hygies on the menu. HK will tell u the best GH he carries are the rips and I'm certain this is his belief based on the high test scores over and over.
The situation many new guys find themselves in is not knowing where the gh kits they are buying are from. Over at promuscle there was hulk selling fake rips that he made in his kitchen? Also, TP wants copies of your birth certificate and DL as well as emails from well known gear sources? Hoops everywhere that many of our guys being new just can't get up and through. They end up being talked into buying from pacman/horizon and get shit.
Also, the water guys are holding from rips is in some instances ridiculous. Some say it clears up after a time and if sodium intake is watched its not as bad. I know some fellas that are like a sponge no matter what the diet is like?
My question is, what is in these rips that is causing this massive bloating? The other thing is many guys are saying that if they didn't have a date to dial in for(competition) they wouldn't even bother with rips? They are saying that you only get the cosmetic benefits from rips when you stop taking them and shed the h2o. Staying on hides the good stuff its doing.
The water isn't present with seros or any pharm grade gh. What filler is in those things causing the bloat?
You can test anavar with the labmax kit..
A vip member at another forum I am on, had a serum test done on Scitropin, 10ius injected 3 hours before blood was drawn, and his serum score was 3.9.. That is pretty bad, when others test in the high 20s and 30s.
And who did this Mass Spec test and where is it at?
HKs rips have already been tested, a lot! The rips are the only consistant generic on the market. Ive never heard a bad report on them. From the reports from users, etc.. each vial is actually 13iu, not 10iu.
Thus far on Meso I have seen ONE serum test on RIPS, ONE and if i recall correctly it was posted by Gunrunner.
Can anyone direct mr to ANY site where this information is legitimately posted based of a serum lab test, the legit HPLC assay or any other form of less sensitive testing such as an immunoassay.
Finally why are folks NOT more skeptical about ANY product which is being sold ON AVERAGE at no more than 20% of fair market value? I mean come on guys Pharm grade Humatrope will cost roughly $5-8 / IU and considerably more IF purchased in a pharmacy without insurance yet some are suggesting RIPs are sold at roughly $2.00/IU.
Now that means a "10 IU vial" costs roughly TWENTY BUCKS, sorry NO ONE MAKES and SELLS legit GH that cheap NO ONE!
Now I suppose, based on reports from forums I've read, Rips have GH in that vial, but the concentrate is being misrepresented and extrapolated by resellers. Why do am I convinced this is the case? Because NO LAB reports or measures rHGH in IU bio-equivalents and because of simple economics!
Now I will be more than happy to answer all those nastygram rebuttals, ONCE someone responds to ALL of my queries in kind.
JIM
Thanks for the updates bro. I have more gear to test but not much time.
I good mate of mine hooked me up with a few on PM!
I'm reviewing them now but I believe it worrisome a third party FORUM such as PM is the third party connection, that is between the "lab" performing the study and those mates who request it.
It begs the question what vested interest does PM have in the results?
I know I'm playing devils advocate, but considering the nature of the "GH business" historically there is no alternative, IMO!
JIM
Geneza var - pass
I included the (aging) winny test and an unopened test vial for reference. The Genza var is on the right.
Results Updated 12/26/13
RESULTS
AMA Mast P – FAIL 12/14/12
AMA Labs Mast P - FAIL (2nd FAIL) 12/22/13
Ascendent Labs Tren E – PASS 12/22/13
Astro Deca – PASS 12/22/13
Astro Mast P – PASS 12/14/13
Astro Labs Test E- PASS 12/12/13
Astro Tren A – PASS 12/15/13
Balkan Deca – PASS 12/22/13
Bio var – PASS 12/10/13
BIO Deca – PASS 12/14/13
Biologic Test E- PASS 12/12/13
Geneza Test C- PASS 12/12/13
GP winny – PASS 12/10/13
GP Var from Naps – PASS 12/26/13
Humana Life Group Test E- PASS 12/12/13
Legend Pharmaceuticals Anavar- PASS 12/22/13
Paki Organon from Naps – PASS 12/22/13
PEP Test E- PASS 12/12/13
PEP var caps – PASS 12/20/23
PEP Winny – PASS 12/26/13
Sciroxx var – FAIL it was dbol 12/12/13
Sciroxx Deca – FAIL 12/22/13
Sciroxx Mast P – PASS 12/22/13
Sciroxx Test C- PASS take this with a grain of salt 12/12/13
Watson Test C- PASS 12/12/13
Thanks King
I am a little OCD and thought the dates would be nice for future ref.