2018 Mr. Olympia Shawn Rhoden Charged with Rape

Believing a credible persons version of events isn't necessarily a failure of innocent until proven guilty, it's no different than any other crime in this regard, if you don't believe the person, then you aren't going to investigate the crime. In order to investigate something, an investigator has to believe what the person is saying to an extent.

I also don't believe societies response to people who get accused of sexual assault is a strictly modern phenomenon. As far as I remember, if there was word someone you knew was a skunk or did grease-ball shit, you still looked down on that person with derision and didn't associate with them. Stands to reason if most people feel that way, someone who actually gets charged with a crime is going to get the same treatment.

This is not a unique phenomenon. I also think, as with any other crime, it is essential to believe a credible witness in order to even have something to investigate. As I mentioned, if you don't believe someone, then you probably aren't going to investigate.

I'd have to somewhat disagree, I've been in a position to investigate claims before. As an enforcer of rules and law that persons job, let alone moral obligation, is to investigate regardless if you believe them or not. Now of course you'll have enforcement officials that ignore it and round file a complaint but that simply goes against their job title. There's been times where boy that cried wolf eventually had a legit complaint, but regardless of how many times someone cries wolf the investigator has a duty to investigate.
 
It’s the Olympia. If he’s not in jail for this and wins again he’ll be plastered everywhere. The morals are only skin deep.
Completely agree, if he's found not guilty then put his picture up everywhere. But I don't blame anyone for stepping back in the interim.
 
I'd have to somewhat disagree, I've been in a position to investigate claims before. As an enforcer of rules and law that persons job, let alone moral obligation, is to investigate regardless if you believe them or not. Now of course you'll have enforcement officials that ignore it and round file a complaint but that simply goes against their job title. There's been times where boy that cried wolf eventually had a legit complaint, but regardless of how many times someone cries wolf the investigator has a duty to investigate.

I'm not necessarily convinced that someone who doesn't believe a witness is an effective solution to investigating their claim, especially if the crime is a very serious one, and the subsequent investigation is a very detailed/laborious one, but I have very limited experience here so I hesitate to take this further.

I do understand the need for people in these positions to be objective though.

I would tend to agree if the claim being investigated was something less complex and serious than a crime like this however. I think this distinction is important. I would never apply the same caveat that I mentioned earlier to an insurance investigator, or something along those lines.
 
Bitch is just trying to get paid. Lets not talk morality here when a girl goes to a room knowing the guy is married to begin with. I'm betting there was blackmail behind it whether it was rape or not.

750k bail? Fucking ridiculous. Let some no name guy around the block get charged with rape...his bail probably wouldn't even be 100k.

It's public now because someone didn't get their way, they didn't get paid based on the malicious intent they had to begin with.
 
To add to that...this immediate response hints one thing at me; the organization knew.

I have a hunch someone knew about this well before it went public and the reaction was to distance themselves from it.

His sponsor and a few close friends knew apparently, but what's done is done, no point to beat a dead horse.
 
I'm not necessarily convinced that someone who doesn't believe a witness is an effective solution to investigating their claim, especially if the crime is a very serious one, and the subsequent investigation is a very detailed/laborious one, but I have very limited experience here so I hesitate to take this further.

I do understand the need for people in these positions to be objective though.

I would tend to agree if the claim being investigated was something less complex and serious than a crime like this however. I think this distinction is important. I would never apply the same caveat that I mentioned earlier to an insurance investigator, or something along those lines.

And those people aren't fit to serve, dismissing a case of rape because the victim of a junkie whore is simply wrong and immoral. I'm not saying that every claim of rape or stolen wallet should get unlimited attention until every avenue has been explored, we need to assess importance of cases as resources exist, but every case rightfully deserves to be investigated.
 

“The woman -- who is married -- claims she went straight to police after the alleged assault and underwent a sexual assault examination. The nurse who conducted the exam said the accuser had a laceration on her vagina, something prosecutors in sexual assault cases usually look for to support a rape claim”


Damn. They got DNA and Lacerations on her pussy. Not looking good.
 
Bitch is just trying to get paid. Lets not talk morality here when a girl goes to a room knowing the guy is married to begin with. I'm betting there was blackmail behind it whether it was rape or not.

750k bail? Fucking ridiculous. Let some no name guy around the block get charged with rape...his bail probably wouldn't even be 100k.

It's public now because someone didn't get their way, they didn't get paid based on the malicious intent they had to begin with.

Who the fuck has heard of this clown outside of the small niche of competitive bodybuilding? These people ain’t NFL, NBA, MLB players, there’s maybe a handful that are millionaires, and only 4 that have a net worth of 10 million or more. Even if she initially went with him to his house or whatever with the intention of having sex, but then changed her mind, that would still be rape. And there is no confidentiality re charges, this nobody is being treated like all the other nobodies out there that have been charged, and he is a nobody in the world because you this isn’t in the news. Kobe Bryant was a somebody that’s why his case was all over the news.

This guy probably thought he was actually someone famous that could land the majority of women so when she refused his advances he wouldn’t take no for an answer. Of course this is just a theory and there’s always the possibility that he’s not guilty..
 
“The woman -- who is married -- claims she went straight to police after the alleged assault and underwent a sexual assault examination. The nurse who conducted the exam said the accuser had a laceration on her vagina, something prosecutors in sexual assault cases usually look for to support a rape claim”

Damn. They got DNA and Lacerations on her pussy. Not looking good.

Now that is physical evidence not really up for dispute. Although that can still happen during consensual intercourse, it’s rare and doesn’t bode well for Rhoden.

Defense would pretty much have to explain that he has a massive dick and/or even though consensual, she was apprehensive in the moment which led to her not being relaxed, causing muscles to tighten therefore the penetration caused lacerations.

That’s a pretty far fetched idea that a woman would willingly do that and deal with the pain, but not impossible. Unless there’s some crazy backstory that hasn’t been released he’ll most likely plead down, that’s some damning physical evidence.
 
Aside from the title of the article, does he just look douchey in all of his pictures or is that just me?
 
I remember seeing him during a guest posing routine and he had that same arrogant douche look.
 
Who the fuck has heard of this clown outside of the small niche of competitive bodybuilding? These people ain’t NFL, NBA, MLB players, there’s maybe a handful that are millionaires, and only 4 that have a net worth of 10 million or more. Even if she initially went with him to his house or whatever with the intention of having sex, but then changed her mind, that would still be rape. And there is no confidentiality re charges, this nobody is being treated like all the other nobodies out there that have been charged, and he is a nobody in the world because you this isn’t in the news. Kobe Bryant was a somebody that’s why his case was all over the news.

This guy probably thought he was actually someone famous that could land the majority of women so when she refused his advances he wouldn’t take no for an answer. Of course this is just a theory and there’s always the possibility that he’s not guilty..
Granted it's not a popular thing like basketball or football, but women still look at someone like this as famous and someone of value they can bring down. Chicks blackmail a million nobodies everyday man. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm saying that a chick going to a guys hotel room knows what's up. Don't put yourself in that situation and then cry rape, stupid bitches
 
Granted it's not a popular thing like basketball or football, but women still look at someone like this as famous and someone of value they can bring down. Chicks blackmail a million nobodies everyday man. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm saying that a chick going to a guys hotel room knows what's up. Don't put yourself in that situation and then cry rape, stupid bitches

What world do you live in where being in a hotel room means sex is expected? There’s been plenty of times a friend has been in town or I’ve been in traveling and you show up to a hotel to see them. I’ve never walked into a woman’s hotel room expecting to fuck, and me telling someone to come up and say hi has never meant “we’re gonna fuck”.
 
What world do you live in where being in a hotel room means sex is expected? There’s been plenty of times a friend has been in town or I’ve been in traveling and you show up to a hotel to see them. I’ve never walked into a woman’s hotel room expecting to fuck, and me telling someone to come up and say hi has never meant “we’re gonna fuck”.
Woman walks to married guy's room. End of story.

Yes, sort of expected to have sex. I live in America and it's 2019, I'm a fully aware adult who is a realist, not an idealist.

Someone needs to teach these dumb bitches a class called, "90% of raped women put themselves in bad situations to begin with"
 
Here is another key point to note; DNA in all holes. If you were trying to rape someone would you have the guts to stick your dick in their mouth?

You see my point here?
 
Here is another key point to note; DNA in all holes. If you were trying to rape someone would you have the guts to stick your dick in their mouth?

You see my point here?
Forced sodomy happens all the time.

And I’ve shared hotel rooms with married women, not just visited them, the expectation was to sleep. I still get some random hotshot work come up and I’ve had a friends wife go with me, she drives a truck better than most anyone. The expectation is drive the truck and bank money. If we sleep in a hotel we’ll share a room (2 beds) and there’s no fucking. To say that this is 2019 and people can’t be in any certain location without sex being expected is asinine at best.
 
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