johnnyBALLZ
Well-known Member
How about shut the fuck up you pretentious prick..
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
24k Pharma US Domestic Source
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How about shut the fuck up you pretentious prick..
My apologies, but how have I been a "pretentious prick". I've tried my best to treat members with respect thus far.
johnnyBALLZ
Well-known Member
After your whopping 2 weeks here who in the freaking world are you to be asking(telling) people how to act in this thread? This happens all over in all types of threads, you think this bullshit thread is above it?
Spend your time figuring out how to properly test your dog shit gear instead of preaching here, asshole.
I have done the best I can of what has been asked of me. I have just asked for some flexibility and time as I try to find more testing methods. I have not pushed sales at all throughout this thread. I just ask you for an ounce of respect and civility when commenting and responding. I anticipate that a counter would be I do not deserve any respect and that is should be earned. But my argument is that I've shown a degree of professionalism, civility, and respect throughout this entire conservation. I just ask for the same.
johnnyBALLZ
Well-known Member
Stay off your high horse then.. You're not fooling most with this "professional" act by the way.. From what I've seen in this thread you're far from it and have no idea what you're doing. Fake it til you make it!! Right?
Stay off your high horse then.. You're not fooling most with this "professional" act by the way.. From what I've seen in this thread you're far from it and have no idea what you're doing. Fake it til you make it!! Right?
Hey, I apologize if I am coming off as pretentious. I will admit that this is not the way I usually communicate. But I would rather be overly polite than arrogant or disrespectful. In a sense, it is an "act" but it is done with good intentions. I don't wish to cause any trouble or drama. I am aware that there is currently a disdain for UGL's so I am trying my best to tread carefully.
Shocked that others agree with me see you are a tool.... Awwww
Lol I leave for a couple days and the asshole avengers are making friends how does this not suprise me...
Shocking now your motherfucking another source wow one thread to the next same tools...
Don't apologize.. They would know normal people if they saw them . .
See boys maybe its not just me its you look in the mirror denial is not good...
Hey, maybe I am misinterpreting the recent stickied thread, but I understood it as a call to reduce the attacks on new sources?
You kidding me these guys are strokes they would ass pound their own mother on this board to seem tough and cool. Save your self time and business focus elsewhere they have there own agenda..
Hey, I understand your frustration, as I am experiencing the same "vetting" process as you have. But why give up? Sometimes if you're in someone's house you have to follow their rules. The only deterrent I have seen so far is some grey area sales inquiries. I am confident that not every member is like that however, I think there are some honest and well-meaning people here. It may be that they are afraid to post due to the backlash they may receive from "supporting" a new source. Any thoughts?
GL/Shamrock already went through the "vetting process" and failed when he knowingly sold bunk, counterfeit gear. Not to mention his lies. The icing on the cake was when he had a meltdown and went full-on looney toon. So it's not a question of him giving up or not - he's done. The clown needs a long stay with the rest of the droolers in the banana room.
The members that are giving you a hard time ARE the "honest and well-meaning" members. They are treating you the way they are because history has proven time and again that new sources are extremely high risk. You don't like it because you're the one under suspicion right now.
Thanks for your insight. I do appreciate and enjoy the feedback and discussion. What I am less fond of is name calling, emotion driven arguments, and hostility. I don't mean that in an offensive way community members. I just think it doesn't move the conservation in a forward direction. I appreciate it when members give me insight into the community, testing practices, history of sources, etc and bring logical arguments to the table. I think those are all things which benefit myself as well those members of the community that are reading. The community should be rightly so suspicious of me. However, to question my character, when I have tried to do my best with transparency and honesty, is a bit unfair. I'm not asking for sales, or approval, or reviews, all I am asking is an open, honest, and respectable conservation with the members of this community.
weighted chinup
Well-known Member
What exactly are you hoping to get out of this conversation? Where do you want it to end up? If its not to eventually procure sales or open up shop, what is it?
Are you trying to rationalize your lack of testing? If not, then what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
You need concentration data on your products. You aren't getting anything out of this beyond that, and I don't see what anyone else is getting out of this.
You've had all the feedback you already need, what else do you want? Everyone already told you how foolish it is to sell drugs claiming a labeled dosage when you can't verify that dosage as being accurate.
Are you just hoping all the smooth talk will eventually take the focus off the real issue, your lack of testing? Are you hoping this conversation will eventually lead to you procuring sales absent of any substantial testing?
Lets be honest, if you really cared about selling a decent product, you would say 'thanks for all the feedback, I won't be sourcing until I can find reliable testing'. You may have expressed that at some point in this conversation, but you wouldn't still be actively defending and rationalizing your sourcing if you weren't hoping it would end up with you getting what you were here for in the first place.
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dper726
Well-known Member
I haven't read your thread but if there is anything I can advise is meso is not a source board therefore it offers no protection to you or you business. Now with that said. If you wish to stick around here you'll need to simply be required to meet members demands. Simply because members here enforce the rules. It's for the greater good of the consumers as demands should not be difficult to obtain considering they are steered towards quality assurance.
There are no promises here as everything needs to be provided on concrete. Remember things are learned from experience and you certainly are not the first one so everything you have done has only been reinvented a previous 100 times. This journey can be rewarding. But if you decide to skip a beat it will sure enough crumble your enterprise. Because remember you have not one or two eyes solely on you. You have hundreds watching every possible angle from you. We even have our own assembly of specialist in evaluating your tone of voice to your selection of words. It's no different then the real world here. How you come is how you are perceived.
We are the customer you are the provider. You depend on us and we don't depend on you.
Goodluck.
There are no promises here as everything needs to be provided on concrete. Remember things are learned from experience and you certainly are not the first one so everything you have done has only been reinvented a previous 100 times. This journey can be rewarding. But if you decide to skip a beat it will sure enough crumble your enterprise. Because remember you have not one or two eyes solely on you. You have hundreds watching every possible angle from you. We even have our own assembly of specialist in evaluating your tone of voice to your selection of words. It's no different then the real world here. How you come is how you are perceived.
We are the customer you are the provider. You depend on us and we don't depend on you.
Goodluck.
Hey, I appreciate the feedback and you make valid points. I made a post few pages back stating that if I could delete the pricelist, T/A, and sales contact info I would. Unfortunately, I can't . I also said that I would be willing to have the thread deleted too but the issue with that is that members and myself lose some value discussions and feedback. I have stated a few times that sales are not my goal right now and that discussions are. I would have loved some feedback on my labmaxes and how to better analyze them. However I only got feedback from one member.
A few weeks back after my initial introduction, after answering all questions and comments, I completely dropped this thread and did not do any bumping. If someone asked a question I would respond. I stayed around however and did some lurking. As soon as I got my labmaxes, I posted the results, as community members have asked. Now I am back to where I was before, answering all questions and responding to comments. I do not want to make it seem like I am disappearing. If someone has an issue or an concern, I feel like I should do my best to address it.
Thanks for your feedback, I have done my best to comply to the community standards and requests. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Hillbilly111
New Member
I think the consensus is that you need to work on getting MS tests lined up. Labmax does establish that there is hormone in the samples but the purity of the hormones and presence of heavy metals is the question. I understand it can be difficult to get a ms done but I think its your only chance of moving forward here.
It seems your are genuinely making an effort receive the critisism gracefully, which will only benefit you. Having @Gearline highjack your thread will not, so be weary of that.
When I say I'm not expecting pharma quality, I'm speaking in terms of facility and process. Obviously, you can't be guaranteed 99% purity as a UGL, but proper dosing labels are plenty doable. If it's Test E 183mgs in reality than that's what it should say. Not 250. You're asking for time to build up credibility and find a mass spec source, but that's a lot of trial and error at our expense. You're trying to differentiate yourself from the rest of the UGL's by the way you're responding to the verbal attacks, which is fine (and smarter than most), but more importantly, what really would have seperated you from the pack, wouldve been being much more prepared. Instead of asking us to wing and prayer it based off you're good intentions, you would've come correct with a proven quality product. Would the tests have been scrutinized?? Yes. If the tests were legit would you ultimately be proven GTG?? Definitely
