24k Pharma US Domestic Source

[SkankHunt]

Problem would be your opinion would be worthless if the source knows ahead of time you are reviewing his gear

Yep I've seen it before. First batch is good and the rest is shit. Might as well try

 

[Marcus]

Hey, thanks for the response. I have sales coming from another community, I've been told earlier in the thread to not mention it as it's reviews are useless here on this community. That being said, I do have several reviews and a blood test on that community.

I feel as if I have done everything asked of me thus far. I was asked that at a minimum labmax my products, which I now have. I was asked to analytically test product for purity and substance, which I am not working on. I was asked to stop selling until I could prove what I am claiming to sell is what it is, which I have as well. Between the time of my first introduction and my labmax results, I did not bump the thread at all- because no one commented. I do not think it is out of line for me to respond to comments/questions/replies. These are not intention bumps, they are simply due respect in answering all those that have taken time to respond.

Edit: In regards to asking people to come here and post reviews/feedback, it is my policy to never push customers to write reviews. If they are impressed with the quality of product and service, then they will do it themselves. I will never ask or push a customer to write a review for me, that to me is not a genuine review.

Thanks for your feedback.

Ok, I missed the part about others telling you not to talk about where your sourcing... I can see you source on Reddit and you're new there too. It still doesn't change the fact that with out any kind of testing on your product, there is no way to tell if what is written on the label, matches what is inside the vial. Bloods will help, for the current batch of raws you used to brew.

However, when the next batch of raws comes through and you brew again, what says that they are the same concetration as the previous? Then everyone has to wait for someone to play guinea pig again and let's face it, few sources only order raws once every few months I'm guessing... Especially with the way your business could pick up if people here bought from here. I guarantee that you would have the greatest success testing every batch and being patient each round of raws.

I do think it's good you're here to answer questions about your product and customer service, but I would highly suggest you stick to that. Sorry for bumping this thread again everyone!

 

[24kpharma]

OH but you can CHANGE THAT POST, JUST ASK FOR HELP to get your words corrected.

Ah, I didn't know that, thanks for that information. Could you direct me on how to do this? I would like to change the introduction post by taking the sales element out of it. Thanks for your help.

 

[24kpharma]

24k would you be willing to let someone try your gear? Hear me out, I'm on a low dose of test e nothing else. I could perhaps try yours. If your gear is good I'll give my honest opinion and If it sucks I'm out what a hundred bucks?

Hey, I really appreciate you offering a leap of faith. I am unfortunately out of stock on test E right now and looking at about 1 week for restock. I am flexible with any initial buyers who are hesitant. I waive minimums for those that just want to try a vial or two. Furthermore, if you have BTC and are not satisfied with your product, I am willing to do right by you and a refund is 100% a possibility. If you have any further questions in regards to a sales inquiry, I just ask to either PM or email me. Thanks again.

 

[24kpharma]

Yep I've seen it before. First batch is good and the rest is shit. Might as well try

Yes that is absolutely true, a blind purchase where the source does not know if the buyer is going to review or not is the best way to go about it, in my opinion. One way this could be possibly alleviated is if you email me from an email that has no relation to your username. In that case, I would not know who the person emailing me is. Just a possible suggestion.

 

[24kpharma]

Ok, I missed the part about others telling you not to talk about where your sourcing... I can see you source on Reddit and you're new there too. It still doesn't change the fact that with out any kind of testing on your product, there is no way to tell if what is written on the label, matches what is inside the vial. Bloods will help, for the current batch of raws you used to brew.

However, when the next batch of raws comes through and you brew again, what says that they are the same concetration as the previous? Then everyone has to wait for someone to play guinea pig again and let's face it, few sources only order raws once every few months I'm guessing... Especially with the way your business could pick up if people here bought from here. I guarantee that you would have the greatest success testing every batch and being patient each round of raws.

I do think it's good you're here to answer questions about your product and customer service, but I would highly suggest you stick to that. Sorry for bumping this thread again everyone!

Thanks for your feedback. The points you make are absolutely true. At a minimum I plan on labmaxing every batch of raws that come in and posting the results. However, ideally I would have each batch of raws MS and/or HPLC'ed. I apologize if I am or have come off as being against testing. That is not my intention at all, I would absolutely love to know "exactly" how good my product is. Not only would this be immensely useful for me, but also to my local buyers as well as the online community. I believe any sort of honest testing is beneficial to the community. I will openly admit I need to learn more about MS/HPLC testing and results as I don't want to rely 100% on someone else interpreting the results. I too should have some knowledge of the methods and results of the testing done. I realize there is still a long way to go, but I am slowly working my way there. I'm just asking for the community's support in helping me with this journey. I think in the end it will benefit us all.

Thank you for your feedback and as you mentioned, I will continue to focus mainly on product and customer service. However, I will answer to the best of my ability any questions or comments that are made. I do not want to ignore anyone who has taken the time to read and respond. Thanks for reading.

 

[boston597]

Ah, I didn't know that, thanks for that information. Could you direct me on how to do this? I would like to change the introduction post by taking the sales element out of it. Thanks for your help.

Your obviously a very intelligent human.if you can brew top notch gear at such a great price.I'm sure you can figure out how to get your post altered.. Just saying.someone with the ability to run his own lab don't need a dumb wiseass like me to show him the way around a forum that puts all the answers in front of your face.The OPTIONS are endless

 

[boston597]

Ok, I missed the part about others telling you not to talk about where your sourcing... I can see you source on Reddit and you're new there too. It still doesn't change the fact that with out any kind of testing on your product, there is no way to tell if what is written on the label, matches what is inside the vial. Bloods will help, for the current batch of raws you used to brew.

However, when the next batch of raws comes through and you brew again, what says that they are the same concetration as the previous? Then everyone has to wait for someone to play guinea pig again and let's face it, few sources only order raws once every few months I'm guessing... Especially with the way your business could pick up if people here bought from here. I guarantee that you would have the greatest success testing every batch and being patient each round of raws.

I do think it's good you're here to answer questions about your product and customer service, but I would highly suggest you stick to that. Sorry for bumping this thread again everyone!

WHY WOULD A SOURCE perchance large quantities of RAWS knowing that batch may be underdosed. Rite so they get 1sack at a time.we test they start over.I love being the test case subject.oh but they gonna throw in extras next time ahhhhbhh

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

24k would you be willing to let someone try your gear? Hear me out, I'm on a low dose of test e nothing else. I could perhaps try yours. If your gear is good I'll give my honest opinion and If it sucks I'm out what a hundred bucks?

Your opinion will mean nothing. The only ones who will benefit from freebies are the source who gets a credibility boost he doesn't deserve and you for getting free gear.

And I'm not new I've tried astro/Roxi/biologic when they all first started.

And where are they today? Long gone. And left members scammed or holding bunk product in their wake. Not really something you want on a resume, is it?

Yep I've seen it before. First batch is good and the rest is shit. Might as well try

Why? Do you think Meso has a shortage of start-up labs?

 

[24kpharma]

Your obviously a very intelligent human.if you can brew top notch gear at such a great price.I'm sure you can figure out how to get your post altered.. Just saying.someone with the ability to run his own lab don't need a dumb wiseass like me to show him the way around a forum that puts all the answers in front of your face.The OPTIONS are endless

Thanks for your response, I apologize but I was made to believe that one cannot edit or delete their post after 15 minutes without admin help. I would really appreciate it if you gave me the steps to edit my initial post. Thanks.

 

[24kpharma]

WHY WOULD A SOURCE perchance large quantities of RAWS knowing that batch may be underdosed. Rite so they get 1sack at a time.we test they start over.I love being the test case subject.oh but they gonna throw in extras next time ahhhhbhh

Hey, I understand your point of view. My counter-argument is that if I were to purchase a small "test" batch to test, then that does not guarantee that the next purchase, large or small, will give the same test values. I am not asking anyone to be a subject- I will stated my current flaws, which include unknown purity. Whether someone buys or not is ultimately their decision, I am not forcing anyone to buy. Hope that makes sense.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

These are recent 24k customer lab tests that were posted by 24K on reddit. Both labs show the test is underdosed, customer 1 especially. Results like these are what happens when sources don't test their raws.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Steroidsour...e_24k_pharma_updates_schedule_labmax_testing/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Steroidsour...e_24k_pharma_updates_schedule_labmax_testing/

Customer 1:

• Late 30s male
• 240s BW
• 6'2"
• Has run test only cycles in his early 20s
• Week 9 of 400 mg Test C E3D
• Does not use AI
• Claims pins 6am Wed, claimed bloods taken 1pm Fri
• Blood work timing
• Blood work test/E2

[933 mg/wk - TT = 3956.6 ng/dL]

Customer 2:

• 25YO male
• 170 BW
• 5'6"
• First cycle
• Week 6 or 7 of 250 mg E3D
• 0.5 mg Arimidex EOD from Research Supply company
• Claims took test day after last injection
• Blood work timing
• Blood work test/E2

[583 mg/wk - TT = 3559.1 ng/dL]

 

[24kpharma]

These are recent 24k customer lab tests that were posted by 24K on reddit. Both labs show the test is underdosed, customer 1 especially. Results like these are what happens when sources don't test their raws.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Steroidsour...e_24k_pharma_updates_schedule_labmax_testing/

Customer 1:

• Late 30s male
• 240s BW
• 6'2"
• Has run test only cycles in his early 20s
• Week 9 of 400 mg Test C E3D
• Does not use AI
• Claims pins 6am Wed, claimed bloods taken 1pm Fri
• Blood work timing
• Blood work test/E2

[933 mg/wk - TT = 3956.6 ng/dL]

Customer 2:

• 25YO male
• 170 BW
• 5'6"
• First cycle
• Week 6 or 7 of 250 mg E3D
• 0.5 mg Arimidex EOD from Research Supply company
• Claims took test day after last injection
• Blood work timing
• Blood work test/E2

[583 mg/wk - TT = 3559.1 ng/dL]

Hey, thanks for your feedback. First just wanted to acknowledge that I realize source provided blood work means little but I still wanted to provide some data points.

Also wanted to clear up some confusion that was on me. The injections are actually 2x/week, I usually suggestion every 3.5 days to customers so it becomes twice a week injections. I am just not used to writing E3.5D, it looks a bit strange. Not sure if this affects anything, but just wanted to clarify that.

I am still in the process of figuring out what the results mean and would love some detailed feedback from the community. I am eagerly awaiting blood results from the online community, because I get a sense that the online community is more diligent about dosing protocol, AI use, and AAS research. For example, I have some local customers who routinely skip doses without front or backloading for the week if they get sick or have a business trip.

Unfortunately, there is no way I can confidently extrapolate purity from this data, as there are just too many factors. From what I've read in the testing session, this community would like to see 7/8-10x the levels. The only observation I can make right now is that it would seem as if testosterone levels vary greatly from individual to individual. I would hypothesize that the individual with the larger body mass has lower proportional dosage:test levels than the individual with the lower body mass. I would appreciate any input.

 

[big boi]

This fuckin guy here.

 

[Voltrader]

Hey, thanks for your feedback. First just wanted to acknowledge that I realize source provided blood work means little but I still wanted to provide some data points.

Also wanted to clear up some confusion that was on me. The injections are actually 2x/week, I usually suggestion every 3.5 days to customers so it becomes twice a week injections. I am just not used to writing E3.5D, it looks a bit strange. Not sure if this affects anything, but just wanted to clarify that.

I am still in the process of figuring out what the results mean and would love some detailed feedback from the community. I am eagerly awaiting blood results from the online community, because I get a sense that the online community is more diligent about dosing protocol, AI use, and AAS research. For example, I have some local customers who routinely skip doses without front or backloading for the week if they get sick or have a business trip.

Unfortunately, there is no way I can confidently extrapolate purity from this data, as there are just too many factors. From what I've read in the testing session, this community would like to see 7/8-10x the levels. The only observation I can make right now is that it would seem as if testosterone levels vary greatly from individual to individual. I would hypothesize that the individual with the larger body mass has lower proportional dosage:test levels than the individual with the lower body mass. I would appreciate any input.

A source hypothesizing great. I would like to see a source who has a clue. I can confidently extrapolate this...... Basically all this once again shows you are no different then the others. Nothing special here same old raw source connect as everybody else.

 

[SpartacusOmega]

What's your SOP when it comes to protecting the member's personal information ?

 

[Marcus]

Hey, thanks for your feedback. First just wanted to acknowledge that I realize source provided blood work means little but I still wanted to provide some data points.

Also wanted to clear up some confusion that was on me. The injections are actually 2x/week, I usually suggestion every 3.5 days to customers so it becomes twice a week injections. I am just not used to writing E3.5D, it looks a bit strange. Not sure if this affects anything, but just wanted to clarify that.

I am still in the process of figuring out what the results mean and would love some detailed feedback from the community. I am eagerly awaiting blood results from the online community, because I get a sense that the online community is more diligent about dosing protocol, AI use, and AAS research. For example, I have some local customers who routinely skip doses without front or backloading for the week if they get sick or have a business trip.

Unfortunately, there is no way I can confidently extrapolate purity from this data, as there are just too many factors. From what I've read in the testing session, this community would like to see 7/8-10x the levels. The only observation I can make right now is that it would seem as if testosterone levels vary greatly from individual to individual. I would hypothesize that the individual with the larger body mass has lower proportional dosage:test levels than the individual with the lower body mass. I would appreciate any input.

24k, what was or is your other handle here?

I think it is beyond safe to say at this point that you have sourced or tried to source here before

 

[24kpharma]

A source hypothesizing great. I would like to see a source who has a clue. I can confidently extrapolate this...... Basically all this once again shows you are no different then the others. Nothing special here same old raw source connect as everybody else.

Hey, thanks for your continual involvement. I apologize for my lack of extensive knowledge in this field. I realize there is always more to learn and I am certainly no expert in the medical field or analytic field. I fully acknowledge that I have no special connection to any secret raw sources. I realize that I may seem ignorant, and maybe even stubborn, because of my willingness to keep pushing through when many other sources have done the same and failed. I have no counterarguments against that, history often repeats itself. However, I am trying my best to read, research, and learn more so that I can try to better my business practices. The saying "those that do not learn history are doomed to repeat it" applies here I believe. I am trying my best to avoid the pitfalls of other sources, and while I know many members here see red flags in my operations- I am trying my best to address those. I am hoping with full transparency, I am able to receive better feedback. Thanks again for reading and commenting.

 

[Moose]

What's your SOP when it comes to protecting the member's personal information ?

This need to be answered.

 

[24kpharma]

What's your SOP when it comes to protecting the member's personal information ?

Hey, I have an entirely separately laptop that was re-installed for solely business related "work". Running just TOR on it for now. Anyone who is comfortable with contacting me via gmail if free to do so, but I also have a countermail available and I do use PGP for those that chose to do so. Emails are not deleted until customers have confirmed package in hand. WU is always waived ID so my WU account does not get flagged and traced to certain customers. I use reshippers for packages so there is not just one location that is sending all the packages. This is the gist of it, please let me know if you would like for me to elaborate on any specifics.