Hey, I have no other handles nor have I ever had any handles here. May I ask why you think so? I am willing to do whatever you or the community would like for me to prove this. This is my first time sourcing online and I will fully admit that is an excuse for some of my inexperiences and holes in my processes. Furthermore, I am just one person running this so I do not have the funds to run a huge operation, nor do I intend to. Let me know how I can best address your concerns, thanks.
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Hey, I have no other handles nor have I ever had any handles here. May I ask why you think so? I am willing to do whatever you or the community would like for me to prove this. This is my first time sourcing online and I will fully admit that is an excuse for some of my inexperiences and holes in my processes. Furthermore, I am just one person running this so I do not have the funds to run a huge operation, nor do I intend to. Let me know how I can best address your concerns, thanks.
Marcus
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Your extensive knowledge of scally's "rule-of-thumb" for dosing, split dosing versus single dosing, you have obviously been following along intently and for some time.
dper726
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There is no doubt 24k that you have been around here before simply by the patience you are putting up. While it could be a first. No source has ever withstand this much questioning without breaking down.
Hey, thanks for your response. I will readily admit I have followed the community for some time before my first posting. No active engagement, but I wanted to do a bit of observation and homework before blindly posting. I am open to learning and every community that I am a part of has contributed greatly to my knowledge and I am confident will continue to. I hope this shows that I have done a little bit of preparation, in my first post I made sure to follow the SCOC to the best of my ability. However, I know there is still a lot for me to learn, and I am not arrogant or overconfident enough to say that I know everything. I have been hesitant to post the customer's blood results here because I understand it is frowned upon for a source to supply their own results. I did not have any intention of "hiding" it from this board and I am glad another member brought up the results. I would love if we could have some open discussion and the results- if there is agreement that it is underdosed, I will do my best to do right by the customers.
But back to the original concern, I promise that I have not sourced here before. I am not sure how I can prove this, but I can open to any and all request. Thanks for reading.
Voltrader
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I agree with the above it all doesn't quite click right. We have no proof so it is just hearsay. You have shown to be just another start up with nothing special. Maybe someone will find that appealing or desperate enough to give you a go. Until then there is nothing else to say.
Hey, thanks for reading. I have read, to the best of my ability, some of the source introductions and postings. While I respect all sources on this community as well as other communities I am a part of, I do not believe it is the best policy for sourcers to get angry. If they view the questioning and vetting process as an opportunity to improve their business as well as keep their customers safe, then they should have no reason to become hostile or aggressive. While I can't agree 100% with all the methods, I understand this community has good intentions and are looking out for the members. I will openly admit there have been instances of frustration here on this community, I am only human- however I always keep in mind that the members are here to defend their community and I am the "intruder". I believe that if a source has nothing to hide, is here to do honest business, is really open to improvement, and can see the point of view of the members, there is no need to lash out.
That being said, I have no problem with criticism and I openly embrace it to the best of my ability. I just ask that we all try to maintain civility among each other. Thanks for reading.
I agree wholeheartedly and have no counter arguments. If there is anything I can do to prove I have no other or previous handles here, please let me know.
I asked a member earlier how I could possibly change the text of my intro/title but I have not heard back yet- would anyone be willing to help me with this?
And I agree, no one has to say anything. I am just here to answer questions, reply to comments, and thank those who take the time to read and reply. Again, I apologize if this comes off as me bumping the thread, but I would find it somewhat "rude" to not respond to those who take their valuable time to direct it towards my thread. Thanks for your continual involvement and feedback
Never asked for a freebie, I mentioned I will purchase. I don't give a shit if 24k succeeds or fails as a source. I'm just willing to give him a shot. No one has to listen to my opinion.
Lets not ignore the elephant in the room here. This thread is up regardless what it contains, people I'm sure have ordered. We need not make them feel they will be blasted if they come with any concerns or issues with this UGL. If SerraJitsu2402 wants to give him a shot, it is his choice. I only hope if he does, he shares the experience with the community. I believe there is enough information in this thread that a person could read it and make a decision on weather to exercise caution or give it a shot.
weighted chinup
Well-known Member
The results mean the product is underdosed.
That is your fault for doing no other form of substantial testing on your products. Until that happens, these results indicate a product that is underdosed, and potential buyers need to be aware of this.
You should publish your findings.
dper726
Well-known Member
There certainly isn't any crime in your chance taking. But a better approach certainly would of been an annonymous purchase. And much more credible.
So one came back at 5x and the other 7x. Certainly not the worst results we've seen.
I personally don't think it's a linear relationship where a higher dose would still hold up to 7x-10x. That range seems to hold up ok for your standard newbie 500mg a week dose.
7x-8x is about as good as we ever see for a clearnet UGL. Gives us a good indication of what any of us could achieve using the standard raw suppliers that anyone has access too.
Of course, these are bloods posted by the source. I'm sure there will be some real results posted on reddit soon.
Btw were both test C or just the one? What was the 2nd one?
I personally don't think it's a linear relationship where a higher dose would still hold up to 7x-10x. That range seems to hold up ok for your standard newbie 500mg a week dose.
7x-8x is about as good as we ever see for a clearnet UGL. Gives us a good indication of what any of us could achieve using the standard raw suppliers that anyone has access too.
Of course, these are bloods posted by the source. I'm sure there will be some real results posted on reddit soon.
Btw were both test C or just the one? What was the 2nd one?
XNooBX
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PEP was real nice and helpful in the beginning as well....This guy reminds me of him!
I've got this overwhelming feeling this guy is a previous failed Meso lab that decided he would not engage with people this go round. That, or he is one persistent bastard!
XNooBX
New Member
Me to...I haven't been on here in a while so Im trying to catch up. But he does sound very familiar.
The results mean the product is underdosed.
That is your fault for doing no other form of substantial testing on your products. Until that happens, these results indicate a product that is underdosed, and potential buyers need to be aware of this.
You should publish your findings.
Thanks for your feedback, what you have said is definitely true. I was just looking for possible explanations behind the discrepancies between 5x and 7x blood levels. I will be working on a post on the other boards I post on to warn customers who have bought from the same batch. Thanks for your input.
Hey, my mistake- they are both Test C. I forgot to include that in my post. I texted both customers asking if they could provide the batch number of their product. Only customer 1 has responded thus far. Looking back at my notes it is a batch made from HondaChem raws. I did not sell many HondaChem made products to online buyers and they were all from earlier in my online sales. Most of HondaChem products have been new local buyers. I don't keep track of customers, but I do keep track of batches (when they were made, how they were made, and when they were sold). For the foreseeable future, I am longer purchasing from HondaChem because of communication difficulties. This decision was made far before the blood results came out, I have had an increasingly harder time getting in contact with HondaChem.
To give a better sense of the breakdown of my product line, right now it is mostly Landmark Chem products but also some from a private domestic reseller. The latter is reserved almost 100% for local customers, as that raws source was the first one I used and sold. As a result, a lot of the local customers are adamant about using what they've always bought from me.
As a result, I am still waiting for bloods to come out from batches made with LMC products. Also future testing will be done with LMC products.
Hope this gives everyone some more insight into my operations. Thanks for reading.
Voltrader
New Member
That helps but does it not sound like you are making sure your face to face customers get the good stuff and online experiment see how it goes.
The evidence shows that it is a dose-dependent linear relationship and the 10X rule works very well. Doc has discussed the 10X serum TT several times.
Hey, I am a bit confused about your statement, can you please clarify your question/concern? Thanks
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