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24kpharma

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@24kpharma you already made a post similar to this on the past stating why cso could potentially change the outcome of a labmax, so far I believe that you have good intentions, but by saying that! you are somewhat discrediting any positive or bad labmax performed on your line. I think the best way to go about this is to produce 3 different samples of masteron-p with the following three oils, cso, gso, and mct, perform three individual labmaxes and bring some sort of credibility to your theory. Otherwise it seems like you are trying to disregard any results about your line, when they fail labmax. This is the best way that you can potentially go about things unless you are planning to have your mast-p mass spec.

Thank you for reading this long ass post lol

I understand where you are coming from, and I see how it comes off. My intentions were not to go in that direction, I was simply trying to make an observation of MCT vs GSO/CSO and how the violet/blue color seen in Vial A could be due to the inherent florescence of Vial A and GSO/CSO being mixed.

In regards to the Mast P labmax, we're still unsure what it is. I have stopped selling it but still have it in stock, I will eventually have it tested if this testing avenue works out, but first we want to have raws tested. However, I believe I had worked to make right everyone who had Mast P from the recent batch. I take customer's complaints very seriously and do not disregard them unless their is blatant evidence against the contrary.

I can purchase some more Mast P results and happy to do a little experiment with different carrier oils. The only issue would be how to make it seem as un-bias as possible, seeing as it would be me doing the labmaxing.
 

24kpharma

Member
Good post, I mostly agree. Your deca pics are much easier to distinguish than the ones on the LM site.

I have noticed too that sometimes the angle and background of the picture with UV can affect the color/clarity. For example, if you try to zoom in too close with a camera, the florescence starts to go out of focus as the camera starts to autocorrect or starts to focus on the background. I definitely believe there is a learning curve when working with labmaxes as I see many individuals saying "the glow was stronger in person". This is something I've experienced as well, most of the time the camera has a hard time bringing out the florescence.

Again, not to undervalue or overvalue labmax, just trying to bring a bit of my experiences and observations- we go through many labmax vials.
 

tacevedo

Member
I understand where you are coming from, and I see how it comes off. My intentions were not to go in that direction, I was simply trying to make an observation of MCT vs GSO/CSO and how the violet/blue color seen in Vial A could be due to the inherent florescence of Vial A and GSO/CSO being mixed.

In regards to the Mast P labmax, we're still unsure what it is. I have stopped selling it but still have it in stock, I will eventually have it tested if this testing avenue works out, but first we want to have raws tested. However, I believe I had worked to make right everyone who had Mast P from the recent batch. I take customer's complaints very seriously and do not disregard them unless their is blatant evidence against the contrary.

I can purchase some more Mast P results and happy to do a little experiment with different carrier oils. The only issue would be how to make it seem as un-bias as possible, seeing as it would be me doing the labmaxing.

I commend you for taking complaints seriously and solving all arriving issues, as far as the small experiment concerning all 3 different oils, I'm sure a wkm that's respected here could conduct the labmax for education purposes lol.
 

24kpharma

Member
I commend you for taking complaints seriously and solving all arriving issues, as far as the small experiment concerning all 3 different oils, I'm sure a wkm that's respected here could conduct the labmax for education purposes lol.

A potential issue with that is that the sample vials would be coming from me so there's theoretically no telling what I could put in there. Ideally it would be a more experienced homebrewer who does this small experiment for the least bias possible.
 

tacevedo

Member
A potential issue with that is that the sample vials would be coming from me so there's theoretically no telling what I could put in there. Ideally it would be a more experienced homebrewer who does this small experiment for the least bias possible.

I don't think anyone would be willing to do that, just send your mast-p to simec that's the most unbiased way to do it in my opinion and everyone else's opinion.
 

24kpharma

Member
I don't think anyone would be willing to do that, just send your mast-p to simec that's the most unbiased way to do it in my opinion and everyone else's opinion.

I am still happy to do it, everyone will just have to take it with a grain a salt. I will also need to order a new batch of raws.

We're looking at analyzing raws first before going to finished product, so it may be awhile before we get results, if we do.

Thanks for understanding
 

tacevedo

Member
I am still happy to do it, everyone will just have to take it with a grain a salt. I will also need to order a new batch of raws.

We're looking at analyzing raws first before going to finished product, so it may be awhile before we get results, if we do.

Thanks for understanding

I'm sure everyone can take it with a grain of salt if you perform the labmax with the three finish products with the different oils, I mean it's better to have some sort of physical proof, rather than making assumptions based on texture and smell of raws. You got to put into perspective, that most people here don't have hands on experience with raws and homebrewing experience.
 

24kpharma

Member
I'm sure everyone can take it with a grain of salt if you perform the labmax with the three finish products with the different oils, I mean it's better to have some sort of physical proof, rather than making assumptions based on texture and smell of raws. You got to put into perspective, that most people here don't have hands on experience with raws and homebrewing experience.

I understand, I will make a post as soon as new product comes in. If there's anything else the community would like to see, I'm happy to do what I can. It may not be done next day or even end of the week, but it will be done in order of priority.

Thanks for the feedback.
 

wjg1985

Junior Member
Anyone else have issue when using deca in general ? I get sore nipples and a lump when I use deca. If I just use any other supplement no issues. Just only with deca. I didn't think deca could convert to estrogen
 

ebkallday

Member
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I commend you for taking complaints seriously and solving all arriving issues, as far as the small experiment concerning all 3 different oils, I'm sure a wkm that's respected here could conduct the labmax for education purposes lol.
It has been done and posted at one point. Verdict: If I remember right, plain MCT oil puts out a glow. There was a thread with pics posted a while back. If I get some time, Ill try finding it.
 
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