24k Pharma US Domestic Source

[Voltrader]

Alright, I had to boil the water to get it to liquefy, and dissolve. I put in a box in my room over night, and slugged back up the next day. It can't be freezing in my room. Haha. I googled, and theirs lots of conflicting views. Will I have to boil it every time?View attachment 20746

This guy needs replacements. One cant honestly expect someone to reheat every time it is not the customer fault. There is a difference between crashed gear and gear that is not holding at all.

 

[24kpharma]

This guy needs replacements. One cant honestly expect someone to reheat every time it is not the customer fault. There is a difference between crashed gear and gear that is not holding at all.

I understand your standpoint, however all current batches are dosed the same with a similar recipe. There is no guarantee that a replacement would not do the same thing. Furthermore, I have posted a PSA about this potential issue to warn customers about 2.5 weeks ago on another community. However, since I do not actively sell on this forum, I did not post it here as I did not think it would bring value and could be seen as simply pushing product.

 

[Gramps]

@Gramps I have read that overdosed gear will do that. I do appreciate the effort too. I was wondering if I would have to do that every time injection? I planned on warming it anyway. I read somewhere that it can re crystallize in your body.. Is this true?

24K has answered part of this. As for it recrashing in your body? Not likely due to body heat, but there are some cases of it along with pain complaints at high doses of test per mg of liquid (suspension). I'm on the fence on the likelyhood of it happening here, but I doubt you need to worry. Search up on it, though, and it may ease your mind.

 

[Gramps]

@24kpharma, what is your current dosing ratios? Last I saw it was 320 test (accounting for raws for those not keeping score at home) and 6% BA for crash prevention. I was leery of pip at the 6% BA and haven't seen that done elsewhere (but I don't read everyone's mixes either).

 

[Voltrader]

However, since I do not actively sell on this forum, I did not post it here as I did not think it would bring value and could be seen as simply pushing product.

Page 1 post 1 then you asked to have it remove and you were leaving. Yet you came back with your labmax results after that. Don't give me the bullshit dude. You have 145 posts in this thread you are actively here. So if there are things you are making known elsewhere it should be here too.

 

[24kpharma]

@24kpharma, what is your current dosing ratios? Last I saw it was 320 test (accounting for raws for those not keeping score at home) and 6% BA for crash prevention. I was leery of pip at the 6% BA and haven't seen that done elsewhere (but I don't read everyone's mixes either).

Great observations, but I think there might have been a slight confusion. In my the last batch it was 5-6% BA to prevent crashing issues I was having. This most recent batch I was able to go 2% without having issues but it seems some colder weather is affecting it. I did not account or expect this. Generally, I have not seen any issues with PIP with BA under 10% but I know the public perception of BA PIP and I try to reduce it as much as possible. This is the reason I used only 2% BA this time, but it appears to have no stabilized well. I will continue to modify and improve recipes.

 

[24kpharma]

Page 1 post 1 then you asked to have it remove and you were leaving. Yet you came back with your labmax results after that. Don't give me the bullshit dude. You have 145 posts in this thread you are actively here. So if there are things you are making known elsewhere it should be here too.

Understood. I am just confused about grey areas such as stock updates. That would seem as if I am pushing product here. I have mentioned several times I am in no way promoting sales through this thread and merely my intentions are to provide updates. The labmax results were requested by several community members, and I simply complied when I had them available. I am not trying to anger anyone, but I also understand I cannot please everyone. It is a difficult position for me because I have only done what has been requested of me, yet I have done wrong by doing that which has been requested.

If the community truly wishes for me to leave that is doable. As I have stated before, I am simply a visitor here. I have gotten what feels to be mixed reactions on his leaving sentiment. If there is a clear consensus for me to cease being on this community, I will comply.

 

[Voltrader]

Understood. I am just confused about grey areas such as stock updates. That would seem as if I am pushing product here. I have mentioned several times I am in no way promoting sales through this thread and merely my intentions are to provide updates. The labmax results were requested by several community members, and I simply complied when I had them available. I am not trying to anger anyone, but I also understand I cannot please everyone. It is a difficult position for me because I have only done what has been requested of me, yet I have done wrong by doing that which has been requested.

If the community truly wishes for me to leave that is doable. As I have stated before, I am simply a visitor here. I have gotten what feels to be mixed reactions on his leaving sentiment. If there is a clear consensus for me to cease being on this community, I will comply.

No you should be here answering questions. You said it was a PSA you were letting people know of a potential issue that is not a stock update. They can email you for that.

 

[24kpharma]

No you should be here answering questions. You said it was a PSA you were letting people know of a potential issue that is not a stock update. They can email you for that.

Thanks for the reply. I just wanted to get some clarification, so I do have the approval of the community to provide product updates/PSA as long as they do not pertain to a stock or pricelist? I am just wary of being accused of pushing product if I have a new product, for example, and have updates on the concentration, BA/BB of it, etc. It would be great to have some clear guidelines so I can best follow them without angering or disturbing any members of the community.

 

[michaltyler]

I think there are ways to post information without it sounding like an advertisement. Just my .02

 

[Gramps]

There are no clear guidelines. There are only some who want one thing, some who want another, and others on the fence. I'm one to want to see updates from all who have tried to source here until they fuck up to the extent of astro, MS, and others before my time. Other sources outright fuck people here, are told to bail, yet still hang around until they just can't stand it anymore. You've only been slapped a few times, and answered nearly every question in a professional manner. You're the kind *I* want to see sticking around just to see if there's a future as everyone started somewhere. I don't support anybody, so everybody save that shit, but this IS a board for discussion and this thread is as close to honest answers that have come from a source in the short time I've been here. When you really do fuck up, and you likely will, off with your head. Until then, you've done OK trying to adjust and make things right as far as homebrewing can go. Some folks live just to be pissed off. We'll being hearing from them in 5, 4, 3, 2...

 

[Voltrader]

Thanks for the reply. I just wanted to get some clarification, so I do have the approval of the community to provide product updates/PSA as long as they do not pertain to a stock or pricelist? I am just wary of being accused of pushing product if I have a new product, for example, and have updates on the concentration, BA/BB of it, etc. It would be great to have some clear guidelines so I can best follow them without angering or disturbing any members of the community.

If it pertains to your consumers along the lines of what you are putting in your product. This is info they would like to know. I think it is best though to leave product list and pricing out of discussions it is not hard to figure out how to contact you.

 

[bparmy11b]

My test c crashes everytime. I think it's because of being overdosed. I just reheat everytime, it's not a big deal. Also pip is almost nonexistent.i put hot water in microwave for 45 sec. Let it sit for about 10 min., and Shake it every now and then.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

My test c crashes everytime. I think it's because of being overdosed. I just reheat everytime, it's not a big deal. Also pip is almost nonexistent.i put hot water in microwave for 45 sec. Let it sit for about 10 min., and Shake it every now and then.

That is a big deal.. I prep and pin in about 2 min.. For someone to have a 15min ritual every time they pin is insane.. I understand you're not complaining but what you just described won't fly with most people.

 

[Gramps]

I could live with it for good stuff, but I have to wonder why this gear is different? Something going on here I don't hear everywhere else and it's cold all over. Is everybody else just under dosing at the standard 250 and not crashing? Is there something in 24k's oils that can't keep powder in suspense? I grew up on Sesame Street and when One of These Things Ain't Like The Other, I take note.

 

[DBlock]

I'm not vouching for him but a lot of stuff comes through NY. I had Noble 1 test cyp crash

 

[bparmy11b]

I'm no expert but I think it's because in a cypionate Ester it won't be stable at the 320 mg he is putting in, it will crash.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I'm no expert but I think it's because in a cypionate Ester it won't be stable at the 320 mg he is putting in, it will crash.

Hahaha, I can guarantee there is not 320mg of test c per ml in those vials.. Whatever the raws are cut with could be the problem maybe.

 

[Voltrader]

I could live with it for good stuff, but I have to wonder why this gear is different? Something going on here I don't hear everywhere else and it's cold all over. Is everybody else just under dosing at the standard 250 and not crashing? Is there something in 24k's oils that can't keep powder in suspense? I grew up on Sesame Street and when One of These Things Ain't Like The Other, I take note.

That is why these threads are here and I am not jumping all over this guy. I think people can read and come to a pretty decent decision here. Yet still there are some ok with all of this.... well I guess they at least deserve some communication with the source.

 

[bparmy11b]

I'm just quoting what he said. it should actually be 250 because he is thinking about 70% purity on raws. so he makes up for it by putting 320 mg and dosing it as 250mg. from what I understand. I'll know if it's true or not when I get bloods done...so I guess it's a waiting game.