24k Pharma US Domestic Source

[ebkallday]

For the fellas who are refiltering their gear, you should change your whatman every 50mls.

 

[Kinikuman]

I'm just quoting what he said. it should actually be 250 because he is thinking about 70% purity on raws. so he makes up for it by putting 320 mg and dosing it as 250mg. from what I understand. I'll know if it's true or not when I get bloods done...so I guess it's a waiting game.

From what I understand, the extra raws he is adding are probably to blame for the crashing. At high concentrations like the 320 mg he is using, it can be difficult to get it to stay in solution without some powerful solvent. If I recall, the Test 300 from MS was crashing like crazy not long ago. Considering all the pharma manufacturers don't do concentrations higher than 200 for Cyp and 250 for Enan, it makes sense that 300+ mg/ml would be problematic.

@24kpharma , you may want to consider lowering your concentration and labeling as 200mg/ml to avoid the crashing. The higher concentrations are more likely to produce PIP as well. Myself, I would rather pin more oil with less pain or crashing than the other way around.

 

[Nick9]

Alright guys. I pinned this stuff last night. I haven't got my filters yet, but the guy I got the bio-tech from had some filters. I would have been more active yesterday, but I had to play catchup at work after snow days, and last night I was over at dudes house. Haha. It fucking snowed again today! Aaa agh! I don't work, I don't get paid. Anyway, I didn't mean to start any bad shit. I was worried about the test being ok to pin. I'm beginning to think, from all the post I've read, that everyone either gets underdosed shit; or the trade off is overdosed 15 minute boiling session. Haha.. WOW. Trust me, this is the only time in my life when the word overdose sounds good. This is confusing. I don't mind boiling, mainly because I am desperate for a better life style. I know desperate people do stupid shit, but I pinned it anyway. Obviously, all I can report on is PIP at this time. I was only sore at the very spot that I pinned. Seemed to me like a dime sized knot all day long, but that could be from my wife trying not to pass out while making scrambled eggs inside my glute. Haha. Thanks for everybody's help, and for you vets looking out for the newtards like myself.

 

[Kinikuman]

Alright guys. I pinned this stuff last night. I haven't got my filters yet, but the guy I got the bio-tech from had some filters. I would have been more active yesterday, but I had to play catchup at work after snow days, and last night I was over at dudes house. Haha. It fucking snowed again today! Aaa agh! I don't work, I don't get paid. Anyway, I didn't mean to start any bad shit. I was worried about the test being ok to pin. I'm beginning to think, from all the post I've read, that everyone either gets underdosed shit; or the trade off is overdosed 15 minute boiling session. Haha.. WOW. Trust me, this is the only time in my life when the word overdose sounds good. This is confusing. I don't mind boiling, mainly because I am desperate for a better life style. I know desperate people do stupid shit, but I pinned it anyway. Obviously, all I can report on is PIP at this time. I was only sore at the very spot that I pinned. Seemed to me like a dime sized knot all day long, but that could be from my wife trying not to pass out while making scrambled eggs inside my glute. Haha. Thanks for everybody's help, and for you vets looking out for the newtards like myself.

Thanks for the update @Nick9 . Your soreness was likely poor injection technique as you said. She will get the hang of it. Have her watch a tutorial video and practice on some oranges. Worked wonders for my wife. And my ass.

 

[Nick9]

@Kinikuman Hell yeah! I was layer over the bathroom counter, trying to relax my ass. She came at me all pale and nodding out. I literally had to make sure she wasn't going to fall over! I told her it didn't hurt, because if she new the truth, she wouldn't do it again.

 

[24kpharma]

My apologies for not replying the past day or so. No excuses, but I will try to be as active as possible in this thread and respond to comments.

 

[24kpharma]

No you should be here answering questions. You said it was a PSA you were letting people know of a potential issue that is not a stock update. They can email you for that.

I think there are ways to post information without it sounding like an advertisement. Just my .02

Thank you for your contributions, in the future I will post updates but refrain from advertising as best as possible.

 

[24kpharma]

There are no clear guidelines. There are only some who want one thing, some who want another, and others on the fence. I'm one to want to see updates from all who have tried to source here until they fuck up to the extent of astro, MS, and others before my time. Other sources outright fuck people here, are told to bail, yet still hang around until they just can't stand it anymore. You've only been slapped a few times, and answered nearly every question in a professional manner. You're the kind *I* want to see sticking around just to see if there's a future as everyone started somewhere. I don't support anybody, so everybody save that shit, but this IS a board for discussion and this thread is as close to honest answers that have come from a source in the short time I've been here. When you really do fuck up, and you likely will, off with your head. Until then, you've done OK trying to adjust and make things right as far as homebrewing can go. Some folks live just to be pissed off. We'll being hearing from them in 5, 4, 3, 2...

Thank you for the response. I know that has a small homebrewing source, I will absolutely mess up or trip somewhere down the line. I just ask the community to give me a chance to make it right, if it's a non-redeemable error or the community does not wish to have me around anymore, I will comply too.

 

[24kpharma]

From what I understand, the extra raws he is adding are probably to blame for the crashing. At high concentrations like the 320 mg he is using, it can be difficult to get it to stay in solution without some powerful solvent. If I recall, the Test 300 from MS was crashing like crazy not long ago. Considering all the pharma manufacturers don't do concentrations higher than 200 for Cyp and 250 for Enan, it makes sense that 300+ mg/ml would be problematic.

@24kpharma , you may want to consider lowering your concentration and labeling as 200mg/ml to avoid the crashing. The higher concentrations are more likely to produce PIP as well. Myself, I would rather pin more oil with less pain or crashing than the other way around.

Thank you for the post. In response to your first paragraph, I have been told by a fellow member here that pharmaceutical grade Test C powder is much harder to hold at higher concentration versus the raws that are available to me. I generally try to avoid using EO too, as I know some people can be sensitive to it. In trying to avoid using too much BA in this batch, I think I had made an oversight. It was stable until reaching colder temperatures.

In response to your second paragraph, I agree. I completely understand the added nuisance of heating up the product before injection. I intend to make the "real" dose no higher than 250-300mg and the advertised dose adjusted to blood work that comes back. However, I do want customers to get value for their dollar. I will most likely lower prices if dosing decreases.

 

[24kpharma]

Alright guys. I pinned this stuff last night. I haven't got my filters yet, but the guy I got the bio-tech from had some filters. I would have been more active yesterday, but I had to play catchup at work after snow days, and last night I was over at dudes house. Haha. It fucking snowed again today! Aaa agh! I don't work, I don't get paid. Anyway, I didn't mean to start any bad shit. I was worried about the test being ok to pin. I'm beginning to think, from all the post I've read, that everyone either gets underdosed shit; or the trade off is overdosed 15 minute boiling session. Haha.. WOW. Trust me, this is the only time in my life when the word overdose sounds good. This is confusing. I don't mind boiling, mainly because I am desperate for a better life style. I know desperate people do stupid shit, but I pinned it anyway. Obviously, all I can report on is PIP at this time. I was only sore at the very spot that I pinned. Seemed to me like a dime sized knot all day long, but that could be from my wife trying not to pass out while making scrambled eggs inside my glute. Haha. Thanks for everybody's help, and for you vets looking out for the newtards like myself.

Thank you for the update. I always appreciate customer's updates regarding product. I will work on a system in getting filters to customers, it is just one of the many things on the "to-do" list. Apologies again for having to uncrash the product, I have some ideas in regards to testing that next batches are stable at all temperatures and conditions.

 

[24kpharma]

Thanks for the update @Nick9 . Your soreness was likely poor injection technique as you said. She will get the hang of it. Have her watch a tutorial video and practice on some oranges. Worked wonders for my wife. And my ass.

Thanks for your continuous involvement in this thread. I also appreciate that you did not first indict the product being the main cause.

 

[ebkallday]

So WTF???? Why do you have to include filters?????? Have there been any sterility issues with 24's gear?? Any reports from customers??

 

[bparmy11b]

I haven't filtered any of my gear from 24kpharma and have had no problems. I'm currently using test c and tren a I'm about 2 weeks in. And nick I hear ya on the old lady thing she gave me my shot and left a nice knot . She didnt inject deep enough. But she's a pro now. Also my first cycle of tren just starting to feel it. Night sweats every now and then with slight insomnia. Also a Lil rage, but feel like hulk in the gym.

 

[bparmy11b]

Also how long does it take to register tren on blood test as elevated estradiol. I get my bloods back today or tomorrow, for my last test c run on different source. Was about a week and a half on this tren when took bloods. Also using 1 mg. Teva pharm adex eod.

 

[Nick9]

Also how long does it take to register tren on blood test as elevated estradiol. I get my bloods back today or tomorrow, for my last test c run on different source. Was about a week and a half on this tren when took bloods. Also using 1 mg. Teva pharm adex eod.

You might have already said this, but how often are you pinning? Also, I think it would be hard to judge elevated estrodial levels from tren if you're on test too. Wouldn't the test elevate it anyway? Unless you're pinning test often enough to level it out? Damn, whoever said body builders were a bunch of dumb meatheads? This shit is science!

 

[Gramps]

Yes it IS a science. The problem is too many kids and older meatheads as well juice up without any research and only use bro science, then wind up with tons of issues, and we now talk about "controlled substances" when .gov gets involved due to idiots not taking the time to do it right back when you could buy aas from vending machines.

 

[24kpharma]

So WTF???? Why do you have to include filters?????? Have there been any sterility issues with 24's gear?? Any reports from customers??

Sorry for any confusion, please reference a page back. A few members were discussing that all UGL product should be filtered, and I at first offered to include filtering supplies for a small cost and a member asked if it could be complimentary. That is the reason I am looking at the logistics. I have not had any reports, public or private, online or local regarding sterility concerns. Again, sorry if this caused any confusion or alarm.

 

[bparmy11b]

Nick I pin twice a week mon. And Thursday 1cc 250 mg each day. And tren 100 mg 1cc eod. And my estradiol levels should be pretty low taking 1mg adex eod, and with tren I'm pretty sure it'll read over 100.

 

[dmt31]

I had this thought a while ago, but after seeing pictures of the labels and the vials, I think I should share this thought with everyone. I'm feeling more and more suspicious that 24K is also Hoyt Labs... Just my thoughts, I could be wrong, but too many similarities to ignore for me.

 

[Never Been Pinned]

I had this thought a while ago, but after seeing pictures of the labels and the vials, I think I should share this thought with everyone. I'm feeling more and more suspicious that 24K is also Hoyt Labs... Just my thoughts, I could be wrong, but too many similarities to ignore for me.

hmm interesting care to elaborate?