24k Pharma US Domestic Source

[crossfitisgay]

look I get it. No one likes me coming in here laying the truth at their feet about a source they thought was g2g but isn't. Your right apparently I did say it. Meso was a different place back then. You wouldn't know kid. I have never taken a free anything from these boards and I'm on a few. I have not even placed an order on Meso since Hammer went to shit. I like my sources to be consistent. Wait till I post my bloods in March. A little research out side of here and you won't have to play the lottery with these sources. There's some that's been doing this a long time that's bloods ALWAYS come back the same but by all means just be limited to here where there's 2 sources and cross your fingers. This is my home board and when y'all come to me through PM and tell me what's going on I'm going to get involved.

Thanks odie i deleted my comment anyways cause its frivolous. You contribute a lot and i have learned in numerous amounts of valuable info from you and the vets. Glad to be around Meso..

 

[TheZMan]

Now, none of that is mine. I shipped it to my wife!

 

[TheZMan]

Is it really fake?

NO NO NO.... It's real.... I was joking.

Guys - 100% authentic QR codes with EMD Serono App. Holographic sealed boxes never opened prior to delivery.

Please check the labs section too. My IGF 1 was posted and it's g2g.

Just making the point that I dropped a lot of money on this guy and I'm happy with him. My feeling is that he will make this all right.

 

[OdieM]

Thanks odie i deleted my comment anyways cause its frivolous. You contribute a lot and i have learned in numerous amounts of valuable info from you and the vets. Glad to be around Meso..

As you can tell I'M Not here to be a customer. Only because I'm getting PMs. Guess I will back off and wait for the I told you so. I hate it for y'all I really do. The source I went with is not the best but for 2 years every single blood that has come back is around 7.5x and there's 100s of bloods on him. When their consistent then you can adjust accordingly to make it 10x. With 24k your geussing and that's fucked up.

 

[xcvcx]

It's probably the brewer fucking it all up

 

[ECB]

look I get it. No one likes me coming in here laying the truth at their feet about a source they thought was g2g but isn't. Your right apparently I did say it. Meso was a different place back then. You wouldn't know kid. I have never taken a free anything from these boards and I'm on a few. I have not even placed an order on Meso since Hammer went to shit. I like my sources to be consistent. Wait till I post my bloods in March. A little research out side of here and you won't have to play the lottery with these sources. There's some that's been doing this a long time that's bloods ALWAYS come back the same but by all means just be limited to here where there's 2 sources and cross your fingers. This is my home board and when y'all come to me through PM and tell me what's going on I'm going to get involved.

So there are UGL's who's BW come back "the same" every time. Can you explain why not even US Pharma test will produce consistent results for everyone. I have seen from 4-10x+ on Watson, Westward, Perrigo, Pfizer, etc.

People metabolize differently. Injection volume, muscle injected, carrier oil, etc will all create variations. Individual metabolism is huge. There are hyper-metabolizers who can take a 250mg shot and in 2 days test below range.

Best advice I can give is test everything. Get real US pharma cyp(ie. not the fake Watson floating around all the time on the black markt) and establish a baseline. Whatever time frame post injection, muscle injected, injection volume you used, use it every time.

There seems to be a bit of panic setting in. Calm down, let the situation play out. The dude isn't taking any more orders. Perfect time to test your own gear, and see what's what. Don't jump to conclusions, don't PM Odie, test your shit..lol

 

[TheZMan]

There seems to be a bit of panic setting in. Calm down, let the situation play out. The dude isn't taking any more orders. Perfect time to test your own gear, and see what's what. Don't jump to conclusions, don't PM Odie, test your shit..lol

Exactly, no need to panic at all. I'm actually cool as a cucumber. Let's also remember that there is time off now for 24K. We need to respect that. He's most likely cleaning up whatever problems were in line in the production process. I'm going to sit back and wait.

 

[TheZMan]

Well got lots to do today. I only jumped in with my gear porn because I will continue to use him. I have ordered and been taken care of with some freebies etc. Never had a problem and moved thousands of dollars, so I don't think his goal was to rip guys off on a 10 vial order of test.

 

[crossfitisgay]

so his freebies i hear of in every damn order weren't enough to compensate for the underdosed gear?

 

[Burrr]

So there are UGL's who's BW come back "the same" every time. Can you explain

Lots of guys have done enough bloods to see a true pattern, and if my bloods do
not come back at 7x I know there is a problem. for some guys maybe it's 5x, others 8x but you do it enough you get a pattern.

 

[OdieM]

So there are UGL's who's BW come back "the same" every time. Can you explain why not even US Pharma test will produce consistent results for everyone. I have seen from 4-10x+ on Watson, Westward, Perrigo, Pfizer, etc.

People metabolize differently. Injection volume, muscle injected, carrier oil, etc will all create variations. Individual metabolism is huge. There are hyper-metabolizers who can take a 250mg shot and in 2 days test below range.

Best advice I can give is test everything. Get real US pharma cyp(ie. not the fake Watson floating around all the time on the black markt) and establish a baseline. Whatever time frame post injection, muscle injected, injection volume you used, use it every time.

There seems to be a bit of panic setting in. Calm down, let the situation play out. The dude isn't taking any more orders. Perfect time to test your own gear, and see what's what. Don't jump to conclusions, don't PM Odie, test your shit..lol

You do realize that 24k blood's were consistent and always came back around the same range for everyone until recently right? That's when I popped in here. Yes everyone follows the same protocol on most other boards and #s usually arnt all over the place unless it's on the UGLs end. If I run Watson twice I promise you that my bloods will come back about the same both times using the same protocol

 

[OdieM]

That's why a doc will describe you let's say 100mg and stick to that. He's not gonna keep playing with your dose. Jesus

 

[ECB]

Lots of guys have done enough bloods to see a true pattern, and if my bloods dont not come back at 7x I know there is a problem. for some guys maybe it's 5x, others 8x but you do it enough you get a pattern.

Exactly, but that isn't coming back the same for everyone, like just stated, which is bullshit.

Like I said, establish your own baseline, and accpetable range. Me, myself, I test low, every time. I test 4-5x on Pfizer/Watson/Westward straight from the pharmacy. I am not going to write them any letters

 

[ECB]

You do realize that 24k blood's were consistent and always came back around the same range for everyone until recently right? That's when I popped in here. Yes everyone follows the same protocol on most other boards and #s usually arnt all over the place unless it's on the UGLs end. If I run Watson twice I promise you that my bloods will come back about the same both times using the same protocol

There was still variance. I have seen 4-5x and I have seen 10x. It seemed a lot were in the 6-8 range though, sure. But now we are sampling a much smaller grouping. We have 3 tests or so.

And quite honestly, Jackthegrippers test means DICK. He is a proven liar. The dude is fishing for free shit and anyone with half a brain can see that. He has already been caught making fake emails and posing like a new customer trying to get the min waived, etc. Then he is claiming to be sent "off brand" caber because he is too stupid to realize UpJohn = Pfizer, then he is trying to blame 24k for a guys prolactin issues.lol

Why does he keep using 24k when he seems to have issues everytime? I know you are anti source, but people like him, are also a cancer to our community. A lack of integrity, is a lack of integrity.

That's why a doc will describe you let's say 100mg and stick to that. He's not gonna keep playing with your dose. Jesus

Actually, they do play with the dose, until establishing your acceptable dose.

 

[Burrr]

Exactly, but that isn't coming back the same for everyone, like just stated, which is bullshit.

Like I said, establish your own baseline, and accpetable range. Me, myself, I test low, every time. I test 4-5x on Pfizer/Watson/Westward straight from the pharmacy. I am not going to write them any letters

The range of results is pretty wide and gets you wondering. maybe it's just the different users but maybe it's the gear. Just something for us to watch and be aware of. And a sign that the 100's of meso brothers using this guys gear should go get some bloods so we can have more info to work with. We cant hardly make a bell curve with 3 samples

 

[ECB]

The range of results is pretty wide and gets you wondering. maybe it's just the different users but maybe it's the gear. Just something for us to watch and be aware of. And a sign that the 100's of meso brothers using this guys gear should go get some bloods so we can have more info to work with. We cant hardly make a bell curve with 3 samples

Exactly, and this was my point. Test everything, and test often. Test for YOURSELF, don't jump to conclusions.

The power of suggestion is real. You will see one lower than normal test, then all of a sudden everyone is chiming in "ah man, I feel tired, my strength isn't going up, I bet my test is under-dosed too" lol For fucks sake, go test it.

 

[OdieM]

There was still variance. I have seen 4-5x and I have seen 10x. It seemed a lot were in the 6-8 range though, sure. But now we are sampling a much smaller grouping. We have 3 tests or so.

And quite honestly, Jackthegrippers test means DICK. He is a proven liar. The dude is fishing for free shit and anyone with half a brain can see that. He has already been caught making fake emails and posing like a new customer trying to get the min waived, etc. Then he is claiming to be sent "off brand" caber because he is too stupid to realize UpJohn = Pfizer, then he is trying to blame 24k for a guys prolactin issues.lol

Why does he keep using 24k when he seems to have issues everytime? I know you are anti source, but people like him, are also a cancer to our community. A lack of integrity, is a lack of integrity.


Actually, they do play with the dose, until establishing your acceptable dose.

Wow never knew that about Jack. Like mentioned above I don't come in this section unless I'm asked to. Why didn't someone say something when I started defending him then? A little communications goes a long way

So I guess I imagined the 13x bloods this week to since we all know that's possible if it dosed correctly

 

[ECB]

So I guess I imagined the 13x bloods this week to since we all know that's possible if it dosed correctly

Let me ask this, if you have one batch, and one person tests 13, and one 7-8, who is to say if it is dosed correctly? I have no clue, we would need to send it to Simec. I think that would actually be the best thing. Maybe someone should take 24 up on the offer, send in their sample, for testing at his cost. That would end it.

 

[TheZMan]

Let me ask this, if you have one batch, and one person tests 13, and one 7-8, who is to say if it is dosed correctly? I have no clue, we would need to send it to Simec. I think that would actually be the best thing. Maybe someone should take 24 up on the offer, send in their sample, for testing at his cost. That would end it.

Have some NPP from December. I would be willing to part with one of them no questions asked.

 

[OdieM]

I'm all for testing. Would definitely like to see his MCT tests sent off since that's when ranges started jumping all over the place.

Alright fellas I am only on Meso for the fellowship, food and training. I have been dealing with blood pressure issues lately and the underground isn't helping. I will be taking my leave now. I hope everyone finds what they are seeking and noone gets scammed. Some of y'all have never been outside of the underground. You really should that's the reason why I love this place. Have a good one.