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Then try tren out. It's not the nightmare is made out to be. Yes it's sides are more pronounced then other aas but lots of people handle it fine. Try tren ace. Short ester, if you don't like it just stop it'll clear quickly and if you like it it'll certainly take care of the hardening up and strength gainz
Tren really isn't as bad as what I had heard either. If you have a short temper like I do it can be a little tricky though. I try to use up all my aggression in the gym, but I can be difficult to get along with outside of the gym. The gains are absolutely worth the sides so far for me.
 
Tren really isn't as bad as what I had heard either. If you have a short temper like I do it can be a little tricky though. I try to use up all my aggression in the gym, but I can be difficult to get along with outside of the gym. The gains are absolutely worth the sides so far for me.

I just ran 24k tren ace for about 12 weeks at 50mg ED. Test and npp too. I found myself literally growling at people even if I thought they had some sort of problem with me. That's just me tho. Would I run it again?
Dam rite I will!!! I'm bout to get back on that dam tren ASAP.
 
As just "dudes who lift weights to look bigger when standing in line at Lowe's" who really have ZERO income potential from bodybuilding, who will never be paying our bills from bodybuilding, the last thing we need to be doing is mimicking the lifestyle of a pro bodybuilder. In fact, I would go so far as to say that many of us, with kids and significant others depending upon us to provide for them, need to get FARTHER AWAY from the weight lifter lifestyle we already live, let alone closer to the lifestyle lived by a pro.

The amounts of drugs those guys have to take, the extremes that they put themselves through leading up to shows, GH, insulin, all of the BP and cholesterol meds, etc etc, the enlarged organs, on and on.... trust me, like I said above, unless you are one of the very very few who will ever make a living in bodybuilding, there is no good reason to take it to that extreme.

Now, granted, you may wonder why in the world Bickel's negative view should matter on this topic, so if that is the case, just go research the topic and you'll read the very same opinion by the guys who are living it. Too many of us minimize the negative effects that this stuff has on us. Taking it to pro-bodybuilder levels is absolutely ludicrous, unless you truly have the potential to be one.
Very well said.
 
I only have three vials and my cycle will be over by the time Simec results come back. At least I would know for sure that I'm pinning tren a and not just oil.
I think if u were only pinning oil you would see lots of people complaining about the tren vs talking about how great it is..... I can speak for both his tren a and e.... I started this cycle at 185 ... 8 weeks in I'm at 210... no water weight.... all lean mass.... strength is what I noticed more than gainz... I will say I prefer the e over a ... I was pinning 100 mg eod and my sides were minimal.... night sweats and agression but when I got going on the tren e most of those sides went away... maybe just adjusted.... how much test did u say your running with the tren?
 
I think if u were only pinning oil you would see lots of people complaining about the tren vs talking about how great it is..... I can speak for both his tren a and e.... I started this cycle at 185 ... 8 weeks in I'm at 210... no water weight.... all lean mass.... strength is what I noticed more than gainz... I will say I prefer the e over a ... I was pinning 100 mg eod and my sides were minimal.... night sweats and agression but when I got going on the tren e most of those sides went away... maybe just adjusted.... how much test did u say your running with the tren?

Planned on keeping test at 400mg per week until tren sides came up.
 
I want to get bloods soon as possible, so I can adjust accordinly. Is week 5 to soon? Been on 24k Test E @ 500mg weekly.
I've been using 600 mgs of Test E weekly and also 75mg Test P EOD... and winnie tabs 40mgs ED. I'm just not feeling it It's been a little over a month and strength is down and recovery sucks. How are you feeling at that dose and are you using anything else? My product is from December 2015 and it is clear. Thanks. I just ordered a test uncapped and will be testing in 2 weeks.
 
What's your batch #? mine is MCT, I can labmax it today if you'd like.

Mine is the same as this picture below. The batch number ends in 0638. Manufacture date of 12/2015. I would appreciate it if you have the same batch.

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