24k Pharma US Domestic Source

I can agree with that! 24k been thru the ringer and he's still here! He could have said "FUCK MESO" and move his operation to Reddit. Less hassle and don't have to deal with prima-donna's.

This is exactly what I would do. So many ungrateful fucks on this forum. Hopefully all these ungrateful fucks who think they are owed anything find another source who actually royally screws them.

All these ungrateful fucks who keep going by "feel", but can't afford bloods needs to fuck off.
 
This is exactly what I would do. So many ungrateful fucks on this forum. Hopefully all these ungrateful fucks who think they are owed anything find another source who actually royally screws them.

All these ungrateful fucks who keep going by "feel", but can't afford bloods needs to fuck off.
Again, PLEASE show me how to get bloods on tren... I'll be here all day.

Thanks.
 
I was talking about people who are complaining about the Test, you do realize its not just the Tren people are bitching about.

It started with the Test bitching than migrated to Tren bitching.
The tren "bitching" was partially me. Thank you for call it "bitching", as I like how condescending you are towards us wanting to receive the products we paid for :)

On the bright side, I'm impressed at how cool 24K has been throughout.

PS (with kisses) clarify what you're referring to, i.e. tren vs. test.
 
I agree with your first point and mentioned it in the post I just made.

I believe this is how I will handle it:

Right now we have a few raw samples including mast p with ChemTox. I am aware of their recent possible issues regarding identifying all compounds. We hope with this testing we can finally close the books on the mast p issue from months ago.

We also have several finished products at SIMEC. If the results come back unacceptable, I will need to look at my operation. If the results come back acceptable, that's great and I'll continue doing what I'm doing. However I may reduce the frequency and volume of samples tested if they are favored less than the feeling on the compound.


End of the day however, I want to make it right with the customers. Unless the reason or request is outrageous, we'll work with you to make it right. Our prices may be higher than some, but that's partly because we're domestic and small but also because you're buying into our customer service. I want customers to know that we will not leave them out to dry. If you're unhappy, let me know and let's work it out. It also needs to be said to please avoid taking advantage of this policy stance.

Thanks for reading.

Im also apparently in the same boat as many other with this batch of tren a, im also mid cycle hoping i can get some replacements
 
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Who are you again? If I didn't know any better I would say you were 24k. Hmmm...

Why don't you look at the PM I sent you on 1-22 that you never responded to. If I was 24K would I have said what I said in that PM?

I'm not 24K. I haven't been around as long as you, but I haven't been a condescending prick to you like you are being to me. When you mentioned your fertility concerns and low-t issues I wrote you several responses in that thread as I hated to see what you were going through. You didn't give me the courtesy of replying. That's fine. I'm not here to make friends.

But, here are the facts: I'm not 24K and I have no association with him. I've used him two or three times. Pretty sure two but I don't completely remember. I haven't used him since last summer. I don't need anymore pharma Arimidex and a product he used to stock he doesn't get anymore.

I did some bloodwork when using 24K's product but I caveated it by saying I wasnt on it for more than a few weeks and had been on pharma test. You want me to send you the unedited bloodwork? I don't think a source would give you their real name. Probably not a smart move from a security standpoint but your allegation pissed me the fuck off.

I've been using POTG primarily since last summer. Used BD Supplements a short while before he got busted and due to an issue with his shipper I never went back near that guy. When AL started doing testing I saw that POTG's Primo tested well. I wanted to do a Primo cycle and then add Primo to my TRT.

Quite frankly, I liked POTG's product more than any I had used. He was using MCT oil and 24K wasn't. I like MCT. 24K doesn't carry Primo. 24K didn't have a tested product on AL.

I also have used Naps and recently posted about my experience with them. There is a member posting in this thread that I actually emailed about a discount coupon because he was looking at getting some Primo from Naps. Why would I be sending people promo codes for Naps (not a referral code... An Eroids 50% discount coupon) if I was a fucking source?

If that member wants to acknowledge that conversation he can. I also was in a heated battle with jolter and Crossfitisgay about their gearwhoring and shilling. Some of the members in this thread watched that happen. I was watching out for the board. Never have promoted a source. Any post on a source I've used I've always been completely honest. See my posts on POTG & Naps. If I was 24K why would I post two relatively positive posts about other sources? Makes zero fucking sense.

I've also posted in threads about cycles and I have an intro thread here. I've corresponded with Millard via PM, and I feel like an asshole because I promised him an Anabolic Lab donation and due to financial issues haven't kept my promise yet.

When Shree Venkatesh got exposed for having underdosed gear and tried to discredit AL I shut them up by posting their criminal history and lies. Millard made it the featured comment on Shree Venkatesh on AL. Why the fuck would I care anything at all about Shree and underdosed gear if I was a domestic source? I don't think I've ever seen them anywhere but International.

Just because I normally write fairly well (I have written for a living before) and believe in science doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden a source. I disagreed with you respectfully. Even though Dr. Jim and I don't get along (I mean who does?) - - I bet you money he would back up what I was saying from a pharmacological and science standpoint.

There was agreement between 24K's posts and mine because I happen to agree with some of the points he made. And others do, too. Because 100mg of Tren Ace is 100mg of Tren Ace. Whether it comes from Fina or Chinese raws. Unless there is some kind of adulteration or additional substance that enhances or lessens sides or effectiveness they are the same chemical hormone. And I even pointed out there is a lack of human studies on Tren so it is possible there is a missing piece of the puzzle to account for different side effects.

You made a point about Vicodin compared to the generic. It is a commonly held view but it is essentially bro-science. There are some differences in fillers and composition which might impact absorption, dose-response, and side-effects, but both the generic and the brand name are FDA tested for bioequivalence. They are identical substances and anecdotes simply don't beat science.

Find me a triple blind placebo test with generic vs. brand name and you will find it is all largely just mentality and not product dose or effectiveness.

I respect you Odin, but you are being lazy here. You didn't even try to check my history before making a serious allegation. So, fuck you for that until you admit you were wrong. Because I was nothing but respectful. But I'm not going to be falsely accused of bullshit just because you are in a bad mood.
 
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Why don't you look at the PM I sent you on 1-22 that you never responded to. If I was 24K would I have said what I said in that PM?

I'm not 24K. I haven't been around as long as you, but I haven't been a condescending prick to you like you are being to me. When you mentioned your fertility concerns and low-t issues I wrote you several responses in that thread as I hated to see what you were going through. You didn't give me the courtesy of replying. That's fine. I'm not here to make friends.

But, here are the facts: I'm not 24K and I have no association with him. I've used him two or three times. Pretty sure two but I don't completely remember. I haven't used him since last summer. I don't need anymore pharma Arimidex and a product he used to stock he doesn't get anymore.

I did some bloodwork when using 24K's product but I caveated it by saying I wasnt on it for more than a few weeks and had been on pharma test. You want me to send you the unedited bloodwork? I don't think a source would give you their real name. Probably not a smart move from a security standpoint but your allegation pissed me the fuck off.

I've been using POTG primarily since last summer. Used BD Supplements a short while before he got busted and due to an issue with his shipper I never went back near that guy. When AL started doing testing I saw that POTG's Primo tested well. I wanted to do a Primo cycle and then add Primo to my TRT.

Quite frankly, I liked POTG's product more than any I had used. He was using MCT oil and 24K wasn't. I like MCT. 24K doesn't carry Primo. 24K didn't have a tested product on AL.

I also have used Naps and recently posted about my experience with them. There is a member posting in this thread that I actually emailed about a discount coupon because he was looking at getting some Primo from Naps. Why would I be sending people promo codes for Naps (not a referral code... An Eroids 50% discount coupon) if I was a fucking source?

If that member wants to acknowledge that conversation he can. I also was in a heated battle with jolter and Crossfitisgay about their gearwhoring and shilling. Some of the members in this thread watched that happen. I was watching out for the board. Never have promoted a source. Any post on a source I've used I've always been completely honest. See my posts on POTG & Naps. If I was 24K why would I post two relatively positive posts about other sources? Makes zero fucking sense.

I've also posted in threads about cycles and I have an intro thread here. I've corresponded with Millard via PM, and I feel like an asshole because I promised him an Anabolic Lab donation and due to financial issues haven't kept my promise yet.

When Shree Venkatesh got exposed for having underdosed gear and tried to discredit AL I shut them up by posting their criminal history and lies. Millard made it the featured comment on Shree Venkatesh on AL. Why the fuck would I care anything at all about Shree and underdosed gear if I was a domestic source? I don't think I've ever seen them anywhere but International.

Just because I normally write fairly well (I have written for a living before) and believe in science doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden a source. I disagreed with you respectfully. Even though Dr. Jim and I don't get along (I mean who does?) - - I bet you money he would back up what I was saying from a pharmacological and science standpoint.

There was agreement between 24K's posts and mine because I happen to agree with some of the points he made. And others do, too. Because 100mg of Tren Ace is 100mg of Tren Ace. Whether it comes from Fina or Chinese raws. Unless there is some kind of adulteration or additional substance that enhances or lessens sides or effectiveness they are the same chemical hormone. And I even pointed out there is a lack of human studies on Tren so it is possible there is a missing piece of the puzzle to account for different side effects.

You made a point about Vicodin compared to the generic. It is a commonly held view but it is essentially bro-science. There are some differences in fillers and composition which might impact absorption, dose-response, and side-effects, but both the generic and the brand name are FDA tested for bioequivalence. They are identical substances and anecdotes simply don't beat science.

Find me a triple blind placebo test with generic vs. brand name and you will find it is all largely just mentality and not product dose or effectiveness.

I respect you Odin, but you are being lazy here. You didn't even try to check my history before making a serious allegation. So, fuck you for that until you admit you were wrong. Because I was nothing but respectful. But I'm not going to be falsely accused of bullshit just because you are in a bad mood.

You are right and I passed judgment rather quickly without really knowing the facts. I sincerely apologize. I have a lot going on right now and havnt been myself lately. I know your not 24k. Not even 12 hours later the guy that told me you were 24k accused another member of being 24k. Lol hope you except my apology and I will try to be more civil and level headed. Just started my blast so I should level out pretty soon.
 
I think we should all just take a breath. Hell I haven't been myself lately either. Moody like a pregnant woman honestly but doing better now I hope. If it weren't for meso, I'd have no idea where to get the things I enjoy running. I personally like having those options there even if I'm not using them at the time. This is a discreet business and it's not without its risks on both sides but having this kind of open dialogue with sources is helpful to everyone. I'd hate to see us run a good one out the door
 
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Why don't you look at the PM I sent you on 1-22 that you never responded to. If I was 24K would I have said what I said in that PM?

I'm not 24K. I haven't been around as long as you, but I haven't been a condescending prick to you like you are being to me. When you mentioned your fertility concerns and low-t issues I wrote you several responses in that thread as I hated to see what you were going through. You didn't give me the courtesy of replying. That's fine. I'm not here to make friends.

But, here are the facts: I'm not 24K and I have no association with him. I've used him two or three times. Pretty sure two but I don't completely remember. I haven't used him since last summer. I don't need anymore pharma Arimidex and a product he used to stock he doesn't get anymore.

I did some bloodwork when using 24K's product but I caveated it by saying I wasnt on it for more than a few weeks and had been on pharma test. You want me to send you the unedited bloodwork? I don't think a source would give you their real name. Probably not a smart move from a security standpoint but your allegation pissed me the fuck off.

I've been using POTG primarily since last summer. Used BD Supplements a short while before he got busted and due to an issue with his shipper I never went back near that guy. When AL started doing testing I saw that POTG's Primo tested well. I wanted to do a Primo cycle and then add Primo to my TRT.

Quite frankly, I liked POTG's product more than any I had used. He was using MCT oil and 24K wasn't. I like MCT. 24K doesn't carry Primo. 24K didn't have a tested product on AL.

I also have used Naps and recently posted about my experience with them. There is a member posting in this thread that I actually emailed about a discount coupon because he was looking at getting some Primo from Naps. Why would I be sending people promo codes for Naps (not a referral code... An Eroids 50% discount coupon) if I was a fucking source?

If that member wants to acknowledge that conversation he can. I also was in a heated battle with jolter and Crossfitisgay about their gearwhoring and shilling. Some of the members in this thread watched that happen. I was watching out for the board. Never have promoted a source. Any post on a source I've used I've always been completely honest. See my posts on POTG & Naps. If I was 24K why would I post two relatively positive posts about other sources? Makes zero fucking sense.

I've also posted in threads about cycles and I have an intro thread here. I've corresponded with Millard via PM, and I feel like an asshole because I promised him an Anabolic Lab donation and due to financial issues haven't kept my promise yet.

When Shree Venkatesh got exposed for having underdosed gear and tried to discredit AL I shut them up by posting their criminal history and lies. Millard made it the featured comment on Shree Venkatesh on AL. Why the fuck would I care anything at all about Shree and underdosed gear if I was a domestic source? I don't think I've ever seen them anywhere but International.

Just because I normally write fairly well (I have written for a living before) and believe in science doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden a source. I disagreed with you respectfully. Even though Dr. Jim and I don't get along (I mean who does?) - - I bet you money he would back up what I was saying from a pharmacological and science standpoint.

There was agreement between 24K's posts and mine because I happen to agree with some of the points he made. And others do, too. Because 100mg of Tren Ace is 100mg of Tren Ace. Whether it comes from Fina or Chinese raws. Unless there is some kind of adulteration or additional substance that enhances or lessens sides or effectiveness they are the same chemical hormone. And I even pointed out there is a lack of human studies on Tren so it is possible there is a missing piece of the puzzle to account for different side effects.

You made a point about Vicodin compared to the generic. It is a commonly held view but it is essentially bro-science. There are some differences in fillers and composition which might impact absorption, dose-response, and side-effects, but both the generic and the brand name are FDA tested for bioequivalence. They are identical substances and anecdotes simply don't beat science.

Find me a triple blind placebo test with generic vs. brand name and you will find it is all largely just mentality and not product dose or effectiveness.

I respect you Odin, but you are being lazy here. You didn't even try to check my history before making a serious allegation. So, fuck you for that until you admit you were wrong. Because I was nothing but respectful. But I'm not going to be falsely accused of bullshit just because you are in a bad mood.

We'll hold up. Lol apparently you've never taken a real Vicodin that actually says Vicodin on the pill and not Watson. I promise you that even though it says it's dosed the same as Watson it feels way stronger. I'm a recovering addict so I know my drugs. Lol
 
You are right and I passed judgment rather quickly without really knowing the facts. I sincerely apologize. I have a lot going on right now and havnt been myself lately. I know your not 24k. Not even 12 hours later the guy that told me you were 24k accused another member of being 24k. Lol hope you except my apology and I will try to be more civil and level headed. Just started my blast so I should level out pretty soon.

We are cool. I didn't see you made this post before I made my 2nd post.

Apology accepted. Thank you for being a stand up guy. Much respect.
 
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We are cool. I didn't see you made this post before I made my 2nd post. I hope @Millard Baker can delete it because there is no need to keep it going.

Apology accepted. Thank you for being a stand up guy. Much respect.

No need to delete it but you have 15 mins to where you can delete it yourself. No need to get Millard involved. Thanks for accepting my apology.
 
We'll hold up. Lol apparently you've never taken a real Vicodin that actually says Vicodin on the pill and not Watson. I promise you that even though it says it's dosed the same as Watson it feels way stronger. I'm a recovering addict so I know my drugs. Lol

I used to think the same I promise. Watson, Mallinkrodt, Aurobindo, Teva... It really seemed like some were stronger than others.

I totally know where you are coming from. Broke T-7 years back. Was on 120mg of brandname Oxycontin ER and 60mg of IR for two years. That was after getting switched from about 120mg of Norco a day and pummeling my liver. All was legit pain management but of course I wasn't taking it as indicated.

Wasnt trying to abuse it per se but kept needing more and more to stay out of withdrawals and keep my high stress job. I went the subs route almost a year ago. I'm still on about 3mg a day. Did it voluntarily. Wasn't having any real issues other than escalating doses and tired of being a fucking slave to a pill.

I wanted to come off and live again. But I only wanted to do subs for about 3-4 months and taper off. Refused to let the doc put me on 16mg like he wanted. Most I was on was 6mg. If I hadn't gotten laid off I would have already jumped off.

Kept thinking I'd get another good job and didn't want to be in withdrawals for an interview or first weeks at a job. Had I known I'd still be sporadically working six months later I'd have fucking done it the first month I wasn't working.

Oh well, I'm just slowly tapering down. Trying to get down to below 0.5mg and then jump. But the fucking job thing!

Probably all TMI. We can get this out of the thread. Gotta go have dinner with the family.
 
Wonder if anyone has been selling any fina through pms to members behind the scenes? Would probably be considered a conflict of interest to bash a sources tren while making overstating claims about fina. Just a thought. Then again what do I know.
 
Addiction sucks. Especially them fuckin opiates. Best wishes with the subs.

I can remember back in '04 having no real communication with sources. Also getting raws and checking them by melting point.
 
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Wonder if anyone has been selling any fina through pms to members behind the scenes? Would probably be considered a conflict of interest to bash a sources tren while making overstating claims about fina. Just a thought. Then again what do I know.

Lol sounds like a crack at me. Guess what? You are reaching hard brother. Members have been asking me every since I mentioned Fina the other day where to get it and I tell them exactly where to get it and I'm in no way associated with the source. Wish I was cause I would be banking. Lol Keep reaching buddy. Maybe you'll call Millard 24k next. Paranoid much?

In all honestly I don't have a single drop of Fina right now or I would of sent it to one of the guys who got screwed. Well guess you can't say screwed cause their being taken care of but you get the idea
 
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Lol sounds like a crack at me. Guess what? You are reaching hard brother. Members have been asking me every since I mentioned Fina the other day where to get it and I tell them exactly where to get it and I'm in no way associated with the source. Wish I was cause I would be banking. Lol Keep reaching buddy. Maybe you'll call Millard 24k next. Paranoid much?

In all honestly I don't have a single drop of Fina right now or I would of sent it to one of the guys who got screwed. Well guess you can't say screwed cause their being taken care of but you get the idea
People asking you the other day has little to do with your previous sale of fina to members. It's ok odie, it's been known for awhile. I just thought I would share since you opened this up by posting private pms.
 
People asking you the other day has little to do with your previous sale of fina to members. It's ok odie, it's been known for awhile. I just thought I would share since you opened this up by posting private pms.

Lol you don't get out of the underground much ehh? I have a whole thread called " Nitrust is a scamming gearwhore" where I tell EVERYONE that this time last year I brewed a big batch and sold what I didn't need. Since then I just point members in the right direction so they can enjoy the fun of brewing. I'm sure some can chime in if they would like to back that up. It's not necessary though. Trying to be all apologetic and shit and your raining on my parade. Lol keep reaching. Ask Millard to look through my PMs if you wish.
 
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