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[Burrr]

Gear definitely alters my mind, but not like an addictive drug. I think tren has had the most noticeable effect, and I think it still does long after finishing the cycle.

And not at all like coke, or an opiate.... more like eating some shrooms and seeing the world a little differently afterward.

 

[napaulm]

Got it and couldn't agree more with some of you fellas. Guess it struck a nerve hearing Gyno1980 say what he said. He created a recovery thread and he's privately asked me my story and wanted to talk recovery. It just quite honestly pissed me off last night.

I get what y'all are saying about aas. I don't see it that way at all. Many of y'all have seen my before pics before aas. I could compete with out all this. I'm here cause I went to a low T clinic and tested below 200. Yes somewhere along the way I started cycling but that's because it's not an instant gratification mind or body altering substance. I don't abuse aas and quite honestly I looked better IMO before them. Aas does not get me high and I'm not addicted to them. You all know the publics view on them. They simply don't understand that taking aas doesn't make you hit home runs or I would go pro. Yes maybe over time it will strengthen you and help you hit home runs but it's not something you can just take and become a super hero. It takes months of hard work and self control with a fork. It's nothing like a narcotic.

maybe not physically addicting but that body image can be a huge mind-fuck. not for u apparently, as u say u looked better b4, but i know guys who are 280-300 lbs and their health is shit. they wont drop 20-30 pounds cuz in their minds that makes them skinny pussies. well, the one dude got an abcess and lost about that much. he's not happy. body dismorphia is real. guys think big muscles are the end-all, be-all and it makes them the "alpha male."
ive seen and heard that shit. fuck. its that way for me too, and i know better!

 

[OdieM]

I can't remember what thread it was in but I'm just going by what you said back when you posted about it man. I mean hell taking gear has made my bloodwork go out of whack, and got my blood pressure to 160/120 and I still continue to use against my better judgement.

That's crazy and very reckless especially since your in the stage where you should start caring about yourself and your health. At lest take baby asprin or something for that high BP. I was prescribed BP meds at a very low dose cause my Doc took my pressure while I was at the end of my cycle. I went out and bought me a really good BP monitor and check it daily. My BP isn't high while off cycle so I only take them while I'm on. I really suggest you look into doing the same. Usually I feel like I have pressure built up in my head half way into a blast and my skin is always flushed. Well since I started taking BP meds on cycle I feel great and don't have any of that. It's not something I thought about doing and StrongSafety and a few others told me that's what they do and recommended it. I was given advice and freely took it and I hope you do the same. That's not something to play with.

 

[Whoremoans]

That's crazy and very reckless especially since your in the stage where you should start caring about yourself and your health. At lest take baby asprin or something for that high BP. I was prescribed BP meds at a very low dose cause my Doc took my pressure while I was at the end of my cycle. I went out and bought me a really good BP monitor and check it daily. My BP isn't high while off cycle so I only take them while I'm on. I really suggest you look into doing the same. Usually I feel like I have pressure built up in my head half way into a blast and my skin is always flushed. Well since I started taking BP meds on cycle I feel great and don't have any of that. It's not something I thought about doing and StrongSafety and a few others told me that's what they do and recommended it. I was given advice and freely took it and I hope you do the same. That's not something to play with.

My blood pressure is relatively normal off cycle and I regularly monitor it with a cuff at home, but it did get that high during my last cycle. Scared the shit out of me, considering my heart can't be in the greatest shape after years of abusing speed and H together. I'm just getting into another cycle and ill definitely watch it more closely this time around.

 

[naturalkon]

@Ryno1980 look you're you and I'm me. I could careless what you do but being as I'm an active recovery addict and the only way I keep my soberity is by spreading what was so freely given to me I have to shut you down. When you make soberity threads or come in here and say your sober but you got drunk and you can't wait till you can smoke weed is dangerous. Some of us are actually sick human beings and can't think like that and don't need to hear it. That's the kinda shit that took me out after 8 months of soberity. I thought since it was legal weed and I bought it at a gas station that it was ok. I was wrong and sold my roommates TV that week.

Are you open about your aas use in the recovery community?

 

[naturalkon]

Are you open about your aas use in the recovery community?

I'm more meaning like close friends and sponsor. Not like in the middle of a meeting.

 

[OdieM]

I'm more meaning like close friends and sponsor. Not like in the middle of a meeting.

Lol all my life I've been accused of juicing. Yes I am open with my sponsor. The guy saved my life and I've with held info before and it ate me alive. There's not one bad thing I've done in my life that he doesn't know about. Sometimes I'll remember something I had forgotten about and call him immediately. Got to get the ugly out.

 

[Ryno1980]

Got it and couldn't agree more with some of you fellas. Guess it struck a nerve hearing Gyno1980 say what he said. He created a recovery thread and he's privately asked me my story and wanted to talk recovery. It just quite honestly pissed me off last night.

I get what y'all are saying about aas. I don't see it that way at all. Many of y'all have seen my before pics before aas. I could compete with out all this. I'm here cause I went to a low T clinic and tested below 200. Yes somewhere along the way I started cycling but that's because it's not an instant gratification mind or body altering substance. I don't abuse aas and quite honestly I looked better IMO before them. Aas does not get me high and I'm not addicted to them. You all know the publics view on them. They simply don't understand that taking aas doesn't make you hit home runs or I would go pro. Yes maybe over time it will strengthen you and help you hit home runs but it's not something you can just take and become a super hero. It takes months of hard work and self control with a fork. It's nothing like a narcotic.

Gyno1980? Really? I'm sorry but other than voicing an opinion that u didn't agree with .... did I disrespect u in some kind of way?

 

[OdieM]

Gyno1980? Really? I'm sorry but other than voicing an opinion that u didn't agree with .... did I disrespect u in some kind of way?

Lmao really didn't put gyno in there my phone must of. Gotta admit it's got a nice ring to it though. I guess it is a smart phone.

 

[Ryno1980]

Lmao really didn't put gyno in there my phone must of. Gotta admit it's got a nice ring to it though. I guess it is a smart phone.

Haaahaaa.... pretty funn

Lmao really didn't put gyno in there my phone must of. Gotta admit it's got a nice ring to it though. I guess it is a smart phone.

Lol.... not really.....

 

[naturalkon]

Lol all my life I've been accused of juicing. Yes I am open with my sponsor. The guy saved my life and I've with held info before and it ate me alive. There's not one bad thing I've done in my life that he doesn't know about. Sometimes I'll remember something I had forgotten about and call him immediately. Got to get the ugly out.

Well that's important. I know it (aas) was something that I kept from my sponsor. And living a double life isn't good for people like us.

 

[jJjburton]

Well, thanks, I got high reading this... I thought this was 24 k pharma threa.

 

[jJjburton]

I think there is some confusion in this thread on the difference between an addict and someone who has had a drug dependency. They aren't the same.

Also I think these terms are being thrown around. In a manner that the world is using them, since they are being conditioned into the people. whose to say who are "addicts".

 

[jJjburton]

ALSO if someone has a spell of 3 months "addiction" to a substance. And there whole life besides that is "clean" and "sober". This is where is is ridiculous when these terms are thrown around.

 

[jJjburton]

Got it and couldn't agree more with some of you fellas. Guess it struck a nerve hearing Gyno1980 say what he said. He created a recovery thread and he's privately asked me my story and wanted to talk recovery. It just quite honestly pissed me off last night.

I get what y'all are saying about aas. I don't see it that way at all. Many of y'all have seen my before pics before aas. I could compete with out all this. I'm here cause I went to a low T clinic and tested below 200. Yes somewhere along the way I started cycling but that's because it's not an instant gratification mind or body altering substance. I don't abuse aas and quite honestly I looked better IMO before them. Aas does not get me high and I'm not addicted to them. You all know the publics view on them. They simply don't understand that taking aas doesn't make you hit home runs or I would go pro. Yes maybe over time it will strengthen you and help you hit home runs but it's not something you can just take and become a super hero. It takes months of hard work and self control with a fork. It's nothing like a narcotic.

But if your body is dependent on them, the rest of your life. Such as TRT. How does that not equate to the same as other substances. You could not cold turkey AAS, and not have "withdrawal aka bad side effects". so isn't it that same?

 

[OdieM]

Well that's important. I know it (aas) was something that I kept from my sponsor. And living a double life isn't good for people like us.

That was the main reason I kept relapsing. I wouldn't work that 4th and 5th step fully. I've done some horrible shit that keeps me up at night and that stuff always comes to mind during awkward times. My 5th step involved lots of coffee and cigarettes and took half the night cause I kept pussy footing around but the things I told him could get me locked up for life and I was pretty sure he would kick me out of his home. Which by the way he didn't and he shared some pretty fucked up shit with me as well. Anyway I've never kept anything from him since that night. I gained a brother that night.

Like I said I've been accused of taking aas since I was 15. So now that I actually am they can all go to hell. They've always thought I did anyways. The only double life I live is this internet one. It's just kinda of weird telling people that I spend most of my time in a men's chat room where we all have fake identities.

 

[CAswole]

Gyno1980, hahahaha, best typo of 2016 lol

 

[Burrr]

Like I said I've been accused of taking aas since I was 15

Cant say that ever happened to me, lol. I think I was on my second cycle before anyone called me on the juice.

 

[OdieM]

Cant say that ever happened to me, lol. I think I was on my second cycle before anyone called me on the juice.

Im 17 here

Who is our biggest, most shredded member at Meso?

 

[mkulltra58]

I found out something quite interesting from my cousin who works for a pharmaceutical company. We were at dinner at our aunt's house and somehow the topic of brand names and genetics came up. He wasn't aware of this until just recently but he told us that genetics are allowed a +/- 20% variability in potency from the brand name/original drug and still be within FDA guidelines.

I've experienced this myself with heart burn meds. When I was on brand name Prilosec, I could drink hot sauce out the bottle and never get any heartburn. Any of my trigger foods regardless of the quantities consumed wouldn't aggravate the heart burn. Recently I've tried generic omeprazole from walmart and another company and I'm getting flare ups pretty regularly and that's with dietary adjustments.

Shit! I was filling Prescript Prilosec. Went to the equate omep and withing a few months I was doubling the dose. Thought I was getting worse. That maybe but maybe the generic is an underdosed POS.

The Equate omeprazole was one of the ones i tried, currently on it now actually, and I feel it's far inferior to real Prilosec.

Let's get this thread back on track by bashing some fucking shills!!!

Look at these fucking Prilosec shills!!! GTFO