2nd Cycle Critique

[cali96]

Going to be starting my second cycle this summer. Have been lifting for 5+ years
21, 6' 3 218 lbs (cutting right now made awesome gains first cycle)

My first cycle's AAS consisted of 500 mg test C week 1-12 and dbol weeks 1-6 from 20 to eventually 60 mg a day

Here is what I have for my second, please critique anything that looks off:

2 weeks pre cycle: hawthorn berry 1200 mgs and 450 mg extract per day

Weeks 1-12 Test C (in 2 shots) 500 mg bump to 600 if gains arent great
Weeks 1-4 Anadrol 25 mg per day week 1, weeks 2-4 50 mg
Weeks 1-12 Fish oil
Weeks 1-18 triple strength glucosamine chondroitin msm
Weeks 1-4 VMI guard support
Weeks 1 through first week pct (week 16) .25 mg eod adex
Weeks 2-16 1000 IU Hcg in 2 500 iu shots
Weeks 13-15 let body clear out
Week 15-21 DAA 3 g per day
Week 15-24 Creatine
Week 16-18 Nolva 20 mg before bed
Week 16-18 clomid 50 mg in the morning
Multi year round
Will have nolva on hand as I am reading about gyno from anadrol and that adex does nothing. fyi i dont seem to be sensitive to gyno. You guys agree with this or should i take it from the beginning
Also, I had a little hair thinning on first cycle. was thinking of getting liquid research fina but I read it can hinder gains a good bit due to getting rid of dht so should i just to cycle then in pct begin sing minoxidil if there is an issue?

Thanks alot guys

 

[Leancuisine]

Get DHT shampoo if you are worried about hair loss.
Anadrol could be started at 50mg.
Can't say the vmi cycle guard is going to do much for benefit.
Adex is cheap, but everything points to aromasin being the superior ai.
If estrogen is worrisome, take your nolva and air during cycle, but get pre cycle blood tests to establish your baseline estrogen levels, as well as all other hormones. Then that way you can get another test mid cycle and have something to compare with.

 

[SuperMaroid]

Why cycle fish oil and glucosamine? I take them year round.

I would choose aromasin over adex, but adex is fine.

Save nolva for pct, you should be good with an ai to stop any gyno sides.

PCT should be 4-5 weeks, not 3.

And you could take creatine during pct but thats just preference.

Your cycle looks good! Good luck!

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

That's a lot of stuff in there

 

[hurricane]

At 21 you've already fukd yourself so cycle whatever you want. Your just going to continue fukin yourself. According to your stats and age why can't you do this naturally?? You can. Just another kid not thinking of his future. Its funny how some of the same members have no issues giving kids advice. Very responsible of you SuperMaroid. Do you even care about these kids health. Apparently not.

 

[hurricane]

That's a lot of stuff in there

A lot of stuff that's completely worthless! Good call on that. He's 21. What do you expect. Another reckless kid.

 

[cali96]

Get DHT shampoo if you are worried about hair loss.
Anadrol could be started at 50mg.
Can't say the vmi cycle guard is going to do much for benefit.
Adex is cheap, but everything points to aromasin being the superior ai.
If estrogen is worrisome, take your nolva and air during cycle, but get pre cycle blood tests to establish your baseline estrogen levels, as well as all other hormones. Then that way you can get another test mid cycle and have something to compare with.

Will def give the shampoo a chance. Getting the vmi just to have a little extra even if it is not packed with ingredients and dosed that great. As for nolva i think I'll take your advice and only use if necessary during the anadrol

 

[cali96]

Why cycle fish oil and glucosamine? I take them year round.

I would choose aromasin over adex, but adex is fine.

Save nolva for pct, you should be good with an ai to stop any gyno sides.

PCT should be 4-5 weeks, not 3.

And you could take creatine during pct but thats just preference.

Your cycle looks good! Good luck!

Sorry thats a typo by me. Pct is 4 weeks. 16-19 will edit if i can figure it out from my phone haha. As for creatine i am taking it during pct. also why is aromasin superior?

 

[cali96]

At 21 you've already fukd yourself so cycle whatever you want. Your just going to continue fukin yourself. According to your stats and age why can't you do this naturally?? You can. Just another kid not thinking of his future. Its funny how some of the same members have no issues giving kids advice. Very responsible of you SuperMaroid. Do you even care about these kids health. Apparently not.

Thanks man this is the first time anyone has told me this. I will stop and flush all my gear and ancilliaries doen the toilet. Thanks!

 

[SuperMaroid]

At 21 you've already fukd yourself so cycle whatever you want. Your just going to continue fukin yourself. According to your stats and age why can't you do this naturally?? You can. Just another kid not thinking of his future. Its funny how some of the same members have no issues giving kids advice. Very responsible of you SuperMaroid. Do you even care about these kids health. Apparently not.

No one here is going to stop him. Its his choice and his life. He wants advice so I give it to him. If hes going to do gear lets make sure he does it the right way.

 

[SuperMaroid]

Thanks man this is the first time anyone has told me this. I will stop and flush all my gear and ancilliaries doen the toilet. Thanks!

My point exactly.

 

[hurricane]

While your at it shave your head and spare yourself the humility of losing your hair at 21. Chicks dig bald kids anyways. LMAO.

 

[SuperMaroid]

Sorry thats a typo by me. Pct is 4 weeks. 16-19 will edit if i can figure it out from my phone haha. As for creatine i am taking it during pct. also why is aromasin superior?

I have tried both and prefer aromasin. Its preference, but if you havnt tried aromasin I would give it a shot.

 

[hurricane]

No one here is going to stop him. Its his choice and his life. He wants advice so I give it to him. If hes going to do gear lets make sure he does it the right way.

How about steering him away from gear. Ever think of that. If he was hell bent on doing heroin I'm sure you'd also help him with that. Why don't you realize your helping a kid fuk himself up. Tell yourself whatever you want. Your only hurting him. Not helping.

 

[cali96]

How about steering him away from gear. Ever think of that. If he was hell bent on doing heroin I'm sure you'd also help him with that. Why don't you realize your helping a kid fuk himself up. Tell yourself whatever you want. Your only hurting him. Not helping.

Heroin vs steroids are very different in what theyll do to you. Thats a whole other argument. Heroin = absolutely should not do at any age. Steroids are really not too bad done in the rigbt dksages from 25+ younger there worse. But the fact that age matters means they arent even close to the level of heroin ya dink

 

[ironwill1951]

I for one will not give any 20 yr old advice.

 

[hurricane]

I for one will not give any 20 yr old advice.

Me neither bro. But we have a lot of stupid members.

 

[cali96]

So in other words you two would rather let some younger aas users fuck themselves up just because they wont listen to you about not taking it then help them at all. That's not hypocritical at all

 

[hurricane]

Heroin vs steroids are very different in what theyll do to you. Thats a whole other argument. Heroin = absolutely should not do at any age. Steroids are really not too bad done in the rigbt dksages from 25+ younger there worse. But the fact that age matters means they arent even close to the level of heroin ya dink

Plus 25 younger their worse?? WTF does that mean. You are one clueless mother fukr. How do you know steroids aren't that bad?? I didn't realize your an expert on AAS. Your comment was incoherent. Meaning it made zero sense.

 

[cali96]

Plus 25 younger their worse?? WTF does that mean. You are one clueless mother fukr. How do you know steroids aren't that bad?? I didn't realize your an expert on AAS. Your comment was incoherent. Meaning it made zero sense.

Didnt put a period. I'm saying 25+ years of age you wont have the problems that some one younger, say 18-22, will face.