2nd Cycle Critique

[hurricane]

So in other words you two would rather let some younger aas users fuck themselves up just because they wont listen to you about not taking it then help them at all. That's not hypocritical at all

How is what I'm doing hypocritical?? I'm not contradicting myself. I told you not to do them because of your age. You are a special type of stupid.

 

[hurricane]

Didnt put a period. I'm saying 25+ years of age you wont have the problems that some one younger, say 18-22, will face.

So your fukin agreeing with me that you shouldn't be doing them because of the increased risks. But your still using them. Young and immature like I said. No hypocrite. I really don't think you even know what that means.

 

[SuperMaroid]

How about steering him away from gear. Ever think of that. If he was hell bent on doing heroin I'm sure you'd also help him with that. Why don't you realize your helping a kid fuk himself up. Tell yourself whatever you want. Your only hurting him. Not helping.

You have to realize that hes going to do it anyway. Help him do it the right way or let him hurt himself more, I choose to help him. You can call me stupid for helping him and I will call you stupid for thinking you can stop him.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

Going to be starting my second cycle this summer. Have been lifting for 5+ years
21, 6' 3 218 lbs (cutting right now made awesome gains first cycle)

My first cycle's AAS consisted of 500 mg test C week 1-12 and dbol weeks 1-6 from 20 to eventually 60 mg a day

Here is what I have for my second, please critique anything that looks off:

2 weeks pre cycle: hawthorn berry 1200 mgs and 450 mg extract per day not sure what this is
Weeks 1-12 Test C (in 2 shots) 500 mg bump to 600 if gains arent great
Weeks 1-4 Anadrol 25 mg per day week 1, weeks 2-4 50 mg
Weeks 1-12 Fish oil
Weeks 1-18 triple strength glucosamine chondroitin msm
Weeks 1-4 VMI guard support
Weeks 1 through first week pct (week 16) .25 mg eod adex
Weeks 2-16 1000 IU Hcg in 2 500 iu shots
Weeks 13-15 let body clear out
Week 15-21 DAA 3 g per day
Week 15-24 Creatine
Week 16-18 Nolva 20 mg before bed
Week 16-18 clomid 50 mg in the morning
Multi year round
Will have nolva on hand as I am reading about gyno from anadrol and that adex does nothing. fyi i dont seem to be sensitive to gyno. You guys agree with this or should i take it from the beginning
Also, I had a little hair thinning on first cycle. was thinking of getting liquid research fina but I read it can hinder gains a good bit due to getting rid of dht so should i just to cycle then in pct begin sing minoxidil if there is an issue?

Thanks alot guys

Just wait a few more years. Why risk your health? You only get one chance at life don't ruin yourself at 21. I can tell by all that extra crap that you're worried about your health (fish oil,Vmi guard ,triple strength whatever and clomid/nolva combo). Just wait

 

[hurricane]

Take care ki

You have to realize that hes going to do it anyway. Help him do it the right way or let him hurt himself more, I choose to help him. You can call me stupid for helping him and I will call you stupid for thinking you can stop him.

I'm not trying to stop him. I'm trying to scare him. From someone who is 39 and had heart surgery in October I sure as shit won't help him. And a responsible adult wouldn't help him either. I'm not helping a kid screw his life up. If I was to condone his behavior I would be hurting him. I will NOT give advice to a kid.

 

[cali96]

So your fukin agreeing with me that you shouldn't be doing them because of the increased risks. But your still using them. Young and immature like I said. No hypocrite. I really don't think you even know what that means.

Yes I understand the risks of screwing up your hpta easier if young. As for baldness thats not really age dependent just speeding the inevitable

 

[cali96]

Take care ki

I'm not trying to stop him. I'm trying to scare him. From someone who is 39 and had heart surgery in October I sure as shit won't help him. And a responsible adult wouldn't help him either. I'm not helping a kid screw his life up. If I was to condone his behavior I would be hurting him. I will NOT give advice to a kid.

That's too bad about the surgery good to know you're ok. If you don't mind me asking how much did that cost after insurance

 

[ironwill1951]

a question only a dumb kid would ask,

That's too bad about the surgery good to know you're ok. If you don't mind me asking how much did that cost after insurance

 

[ironwill1951]

if a 20 year old comes on here and receives help from a lot of older
members other 20 year olds that read that think its ok.

 

[cali96]

a question only a dumb kid would ask,

I'm a pre-med student and I find that shit interesting. Also I'm taking a class on the practice of medical insurance in the US today which is why I was wondering

 

[ironwill1951]

your a 20 yr old pre med student ? why do I find that hard to believe ?
you sound more like a jr high kid, post up a pic and show us all those gains you have made.

 

[cali96]

your a 20 yr old pre med student ? why do I find that hard to believe ?
you sound more like a jr high kid, post up a pic and show us all those gains you have made.

Here bud. Taken right now in class. You really have trust issues

 

[hurricane]

Why would you possibly want to know the cost? Let's put it this way. I'm a retired combat veteran of 16 years who was injured in a active combat zone. Uncle Sam takes good care of me. I'm pretty sure I've earned it. Not that I need to explain it to you.

 

[cali96]

Why would you possibly want to know the cost? Let's put it this way. I'm a retired combat veteran of 16 years who was injured in a active combat zone. Uncle Sam takes good care of me. I'm pretty sure I've earned it. Not that I need to explain it to you.

Please read above. But yes you dont need to explain shit. No need to get so defensive. Also you tried to make it seem like your heart problem was steroid related but now it's clear that it was from combat. So your previous statement had 0 to do with steroids affecting your heart

 

[hurricane]

Please read above. But yes you dont need to explain shit. No need to get so defensive. Also you tried to make it seem like your heart problem was steroid related but now it's clear that it was from combat. So your previous statement had 0 to do with steroids affecting your heart

You are one wiseass stupid fuk. My heart issues were after my fukin retirement. I cracked my L4 and L5 vertebrae on a MFF jump into Iraq protecting your freedom so you can act like the ungrateful little punk that you are. So suck a dick. I've done more in 1 year of my life then you'll ever accomplish.

 

[cali96]

You are one wiseass stupid fuk. My heart issues were after my fukin retirement. I cracked my L4 and L5 vertebrae on a MFF jump into Iraq protecting your freedom so you can act like the ungrateful little punk that you are. So suck a dick. I've done more in 1 year of my life then you'll ever accomplish.

Ok. You dont seem to get that I'm not attacking you lol. You just can't produce a detailed sentence so every thing is a bit cloudy. First you were talking about a heart problem, then you said "let's put it this way...injured in an active combat zone" making it seem like you were referring to said heart problem! Great if you've accomplished more hopefully you killed some bad mofo's. I greatly respect anyone who serves this country. I'm pro-Trump pro-military. Half my moms side has served. But don't think that I'm going to be grateful to you for shitting on my choices. That is different than my gratefulness for your service

 

[Harmswhey]

Take care ki

I'm not trying to stop him. I'm trying to scare him. From someone who is 39 and had heart surgery in October I sure as shit won't help him. And a responsible adult wouldn't help him either. I'm not helping a kid screw his life up. If I was to condone his behavior I would be hurting him. I will NOT give advice to a kid.

Do us all a favor and don't give advice to anyone. Did he ask you for advice? I dont think so. Who are you to tell him what he should or shouldn't do? I'm sure he knows he is playing with fire at that age. You sure are quick to call people stupid man. I remember when u were a new member here 6 months ago asking some of the stupidest fucking questions I've ever heard. So in 6 months you are an expert and handing out medical advice to people. I understand telling him to stay away from aas at his age but bashing him and insulting his intelligence is just a dick move.

 

[Harmswhey]

You are one wiseass stupid fuk. My heart issues were after my fukin retirement. I cracked my L4 and L5 vertebrae on a MFF jump into Iraq protecting your freedom so you can act like the ungrateful little punk that you are. So suck a dick. I've done more in 1 year of my life then you'll ever accomplish.

I do appreciate your service to our country but your people skills definitely need improvement. I personally know a lot of marines and military and they would never talk to someone the way you do. You need to relax homie everythings gonna be ok if the kid wants to cycle aas let him do it . Just because some dude on the internet is telling him not to probably isn't gonna change his mind. He isn't asking you to give him a source or build him a cycle relax dude fuck. And you've done more in 1 year than he will accomplish in his whole life? Who the fuck says that to a 21yr old kid like get over yourself dude you ain't shit!

 

[hurricane]

I do appreciate your service to our country but your people skills definitely need improvement. I personally know a lot of marines and military and they would never talk to someone the way you do. You need to relax homie everythings gonna be ok if the kid wants to cycle aas let him do it . Just because some dude on the internet is telling him not to probably isn't gonna change his mind. He isn't asking you to give him a source or build him a cycle relax dude fuck. And you've done more in 1 year than he will accomplish in his whole life? Who the fuck says that to a 21yr old kid like get over yourself dude you ain't shit!

But it might make him change his mind. You don't know that. Giving him advice sure as hell won't stop him. And June to February is 8 months last I checked. And aren't you the guy who wants to run primo at 100 mg a week. So before you run your mouth about my lack of knowledge maybe you should clean up your own backyard. And if me being a dick and telling my story stops just 1 kid from using gear then that's a success. I also know a lot of service members who would rip apart this kid worse then me. Condoning AAS use for a kid his age is irresponsible on everyone's part. If were supposed to help these kids maybe we should steer them away from using gear until their ready. Because many members on this site believe just that. Just because a kid may be hell bent on using gear doesn't mean we have to help him use. Helping him use gear is NOT help.

 

[Harmswhey]

But it might make him change his mind. You don't know that. Giving him advice sure as hell won't stop him. And June to February is 8 months last I checked. And aren't you the guy who wants to run primo at 100 mg a week. So before you run your mouth about my lack of knowledge maybe you should clean up your own backyard. And if me being a dick and telling my story stops just 1 kid from using gear then that's a success. I also know a lot of service members who would rip apart this kid worse then me. Condoning AAS use for a kid his age is irresponsible on everyone's part. If were supposed to help these kids maybe we should steer them away from using gear until their ready. Because many members on this site believe just that. Just because a kid may be hell bent on using gear doesn't mean we have to help him use. Helping him use gear is NOT help.

Where do you see me giving kids advice? And yes I was asking for input on small primo dose while on trt so what's your point? "Your story" has nothing to do with aas so it's irrelevant as far as im concerned. If you want to talk him out of using aas there is better ways than calling him a stupid kid and telling him to suck your dick? Imo