50 old but new...

With prop, can you see any difference in the area where you just pin? Such as slight reddish, warmer to touch, slightly swollen. And then it goes back to normal in 3-5 days? Does that sound like test prop PIP characteristics?
I feel like I got shot with a paintball but don't get a bruise. It feels like a knot in the muscle
 
My recent experience on prop was strange.. Ran 100mg ed and no pip at all.. Fast gains... Then on the last shot I got the worst pip I've nearly ever had (bar sustanon), to the point my leg hurt like fuck and I couldn't bend it for a week lol.. I'd use it again tho coz the gains were nice
 
Really? That bad that one will quit? I'm pretty much willing to do almost anything but... What is it, a burning sensation? How long after the pin does it last?
stiffness/soreness in the area of injection. Best to cut it with something else if you inject anywhere else besides glutes, you don't want a single quad injection effecting a leg workout.
 
If it were me I would keep bulking and try to add another 10 lbs if possible.
I mean it's not excatly cutting season unless you prepping for a competition.

Most people will tell you to only run one compound to see how you react, but your already on cyp.
Why not continue on the cyp for like for like 12 weeks maybe add some npp for 10 weeks.
Then go back into cruise mode until late spring, early summer and then cut on
T prop, mast p and var.

I think you would be pleased with that stack.
 
Why not continue on the cyp for like for like 12 weeks maybe add some npp for 10 weeks.
Then go back into cruise mode until late spring, early summer and then cut on
T prop, mast p and var.

I think you would be pleased with that stack.

That's a good option too
Push cyp to 500mg/wk x 12wks
How much npp for the 10 wks would you suggest?
And how much prop/mast and var?
Thx!
 
I would run the cyp at 600 mg and the the npp at 450 mg.
You could shoot the npp with your cyp @ 150 mg Mon and Friday, with an additional 150 mg npp on Wed.
Your joints will also love you for running npp.

This will also get used to pinning a little bit more, and it will prepare you for pinning more frequently this summer if you chose the run the cycle I proposed.

As far as dosage on the cut cycle worry about that when you get there.
One Cycle at a time.
 
I would run the cyp at 600 mg and the the npp at 450 mg.
You could shoot the npp with your cyp @ 150 mg Mon and Friday, with an additional 150 mg npp on Wed.
Your joints will also love you for running npp.

This will also get used to pinning a little bit more, and it will prepare you for pinning more frequently this summer if you chose the run the cycle I proposed.

As far as dosage on the cut cycle worry about that when you get there.
One Cycle at a time.

You don't think that is a lot of gear to run for a first cycle? TRT dose is not like running 600mg of Test Cyp. He doesn't know how his body will react to supraphysiological levels of test yet. He should be able to put on 10 pounds on just 600mg of test for his first cycle, if he is eating right. Would the benefits of running that much gear on his first cycle outweigh the risks? Not trying to be a dick, just want to know what your thoughts are.
 
My thinking is that this is 50 year old man that has been administering test cyp to himself for over a year and a half.
He already knows how to pin and already understands the concept of an AI. He is not a 24 year old kid running his first cycle.

The cycle I recommended will have very low side effects as long as e2 is kept within range.

He will also only have to pin 3 times a week and pip should be almost non existent if done correctly.

Npp will give him a lot of strength and size, something I find I don't really get on a solo cycle of moderately dosed test.

He's a big boy I think he could handle this cycle.
 
My thinking is that this is 50 year old man that has been administering test cyp to himself for over a year and a half.
He already knows how to pin and already understands the concept of an AI. He is not a 24 year old kid running his first cycle.

The cycle I recommended will have very low side effects as long as e2 is kept within range.

He will also only have to pin 3 times a week and pip should be almost non existent if done correctly.

Npp will give him a lot of strength and size, something I find I don't really get on a solo cycle of moderately dosed test.

He's a big boy I think he could handle this cycle.

Cool
I do bloods every 3 months religiously, my Bp is always in check and usually on the low side
I already pin 2 times for TRT and 2 for HCG
An additional hole wouldn't be all that problematic :p

Also, don't know if I'll do more than a cycle. I'm only 5'9" and on my frame too much size would look bad, stocky. Don't want that look. I want to though be able to get really lean without losing mass. I know I will lose some but as you state if I add 10lbs I should be ok
 
My thinking is that this is 50 year old man that has been administering test cyp to himself for over a year and a half.
He already knows how to pin and already understands the concept of an AI. He is not a 24 year old kid running his first cycle.

The cycle I recommended will have very low side effects as long as e2 is kept within range.

He will also only have to pin 3 times a week and pip should be almost non existent if done correctly.

Npp will give him a lot of strength and size, something I find I don't really get on a solo cycle of moderately dosed test.

He's a big boy I think he could handle this cycle.

Those are all good points. Thanks for explaining.
 
If u must use prop cut it with some grape seed oil. Worked like a charm when i had some sustanon with awful pip. However i think test cyp or test e would be a no brainer imo.
 
In pinning down my first cycle (pun intended :p), my objectives are mainly to maintain my mass when starting my cut which I will be doing in February .
I'm completing my bulk cycle I am 187lbs now at 16% (5'9")
At my age it's not so much about losing lbm but the difficulty in regaining it...

That been said, tweaking it was thinking :

Npp 150mg eod x12 weeks
T e 300mg 2x week x12 weeks
Adex .50 mg ed x12wks

Anavar 40mg (20mg am 20mg 1/2hr pre exercise) X 6wks
Cardarine (GW501516) 20mg ed x8 wks
Clen 20mcg wk1 / 40mcg wk2 / 40mcg wk5 / 60mcg wk6 / 60mcg wk9 / 80mcg wk10

The GW should also I think aid in endurance to push harder at the gym and in my prep for the Spartan races I plan to participate

Any contribution/criticism is very well accepted
Thanks and happy new year to all
 
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