69 year old 250mg Test for 1 year

[CalRon]

Yes, the title is correct. My father just visited me over the weekend and told me he has been taking 250mg of Test Cypionate for at least one year.

Background of my father: 69 years old. 6'2", 240 lbs. Guessing 20-25% body fat? History of hypertension. Overall healthy individual. He was a Navy Seal in Vietnam. Super stubborn. Been working out his entire life 5 + days per week. Always taking plenty of herbs, vitamins, etc. His diet is not 100% on point and struggling to lose body fat. Looks bloated in neck, face, abdomen (which I now have a better understanding why).

An "ex-convict, biker gang" friend of his apparently sold my father some testosterone and told him to take 1cc per week. Didn't tell him anything more. My Dad didn't know about PCT, how to cycle properly, or even where to stick himself in the ass. Shit really pisses me off.

I set up an appointment to test his estradiol and testosterone levels. My Dad says his overall health is good and his blood pressure is under control through medication. I have a feeling he looks super bloated because of elevated estrogen. I gave him a some Aromasin, HCG, Clomid, and Nolvadex. My plan is to see where 250mg puts his total testosterone before I have him adjust his dose. I will then have him take Aromasin if his Estadiol is elevated and needs to be lowered back to normal range. I would like to get him started on an 8 week PCT. Im hoping to get his natural test regenerated while controlling estradiol. Once thats good to go, I recommended that he seek Testosterone Replacement Therapy under doctor supervision.

At my fathers age, his body is going to be less forgiving. Ive played around with the idea of helping him get into low dose test or even HGH because I know his body could use it, but I don't know if there would be any issues at his age. The last thing I want to do is to hurt my father in any sort of way, I don't think Id ever be able to live with myself.

Do you guys think my course of action is correct? Am I overlooking anything? Am I being too paranoid? Normally someone who takes steroids for the first time is recommended to try 250mg test per week for 12 weeks only, then PCT. My Dad has done this for well over one year. I know he's not concerned with having kids, but I know he doesn't want to be on TRT for the rest of his life ether.

I appreciate your help.

 

[JohnnyD]

The best course of action is to get checked out thoroughly by a good doctor. At his age, he can certainly get trt, but he’ll want to pay attention to his heart and his psa levels if he’s going to go that route, a lot of guys his age get prostate cancer. Good luck

 

[CalRon]

Luckily, it sounds like his health is monitored pretty closes by the VA. I asked about his liver enzymes, Lipid profile, Prostate, and kidneys and he said everything looks healthy. Im hoping everything he told me is true. The doctors don't know he is taking testosterone. He also said his testosterone was considered within normal range "somewhere in the middle" before he stared taking testosterone so it doesn't sound like he was ever suffering from low T. He loves working out and wanted to feel youthful again. I don't think anyone can blame him for wanting to take some Test, but he needs to do it under doctor supervision since he has no freaking clue what he's doing.

 

[4Drago]

Yes he needs to monitor his blood work and be seen regularly by his doctor. High blood pressure/cholesterol is no joke. But personally l think 250mg a week is pretty low dose. At 69 PCT, again in my opinion, is pointless.
Best and safest route is doctor monitored trt. And I can see some benefit from hgh as well if he can afford it.
Unless its severely over dosed I cant see bloating coming from such a low dose. More likely diet and age related

 

[4Drago]

And curious? Doc probably meant his test was mid range for a average 69 year old, which is probably pretty low. You seem to be going about this pretty intelligently. Don't just start adding meds until you have good reason...test result or preferably doc prescribed.
If he wants to do it safely then stop the test then go to doc in about 2-3 months and ask to be put on trt. Research the effects of low test so he can let the doc know why he wants trt with symptoms to back him up.

 

[HIGHRISK]

Yes, the title is correct. My father just visited me over the weekend and told me he has been taking 250mg of Test Cypionate for at least one year.

Background of my father: 69 years old. 6'2", 240 lbs. Guessing 20-25% body fat? History of hypertension. Overall healthy individual. He was a Navy Seal in Vietnam. Super stubborn. Been working out his entire life 5 + days per week. Always taking plenty of herbs, vitamins, etc. His diet is not 100% on point and struggling to lose body fat. Looks bloated in neck, face, abdomen (which I now have a better understanding why).

An "ex-convict, biker gang" friend of his apparently sold my father some testosterone and told him to take 1cc per week. Didn't tell him anything more. My Dad didn't know about PCT, how to cycle properly, or even where to stick himself in the ass. Shit really pisses me off.

I set up an appointment to test his estradiol and testosterone levels. My Dad says his overall health is good and his blood pressure is under control through medication. I have a feeling he looks super bloated because of elevated estrogen. I gave him a some Aromasin, HCG, Clomid, and Nolvadex. My plan is to see where 250mg puts his total testosterone before I have him adjust his dose. I will then have him take Aromasin if his Estadiol is elevated and needs to be lowered back to normal range. I would like to get him started on an 8 week PCT. Im hoping to get his natural test regenerated while controlling estradiol. Once thats good to go, I recommended that he seek Testosterone Replacement Therapy under doctor supervision.

At my fathers age, his body is going to be less forgiving. Ive played around with the idea of helping him get into low dose test or even HGH because I know his body could use it, but I don't know if there would be any issues at his age. The last thing I want to do is to hurt my father in any sort of way, I don't think Id ever be able to live with myself.

Do you guys think my course of action is correct? Am I overlooking anything? Am I being too paranoid? Normally someone who takes steroids for the first time is recommended to try 250mg test per week for 12 weeks only, then PCT. My Dad has done this for well over one year. I know he's not concerned with having kids, but I know he doesn't want to be on TRT for the rest of his life ether.

I appreciate your help.

Are you a Dr?

So you prescribed him nolva,Clomid,aromasin and hcg???On top of not knowing anything about his blood work or E2? You "think" it's high because he "looks" bloated?



"I've played around with the idea of letting him do a low dose test or high"??????

You can't be fucking serious can you? Are you really contemplating playing Dr with your fathers health and getting life changing info from a fucking chat forum??

Come on bro you obviously care about your father and love him. So why would you think it's a good idea to self prescribe him steroids? Send him to the Dr and tell them exactly what he's done and let the professionals handle his health. He might need trt forever prescribed and watched by a real Dr. My uncle is 74 and been on trt for almost 10 years and will run circles around most 30 yr olds.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

250 will put his total t around 1500. That's way too high for his age.

I think 150mg/week is a better dosage for his age. That will put his total testosterone around 800.

You do not want to give him a heart enlarging dosage at his age. On the other hand if his hpta is already compromised, the last thing you want is to pull him off trt. Low testosterone (shutdown caused by steroids) at his age can cause him a heart attack. He needs his healthy dosage of testosterone; everyone at his age most certainly can benefit from it and leave a longer life with a higher quality of life.

 

[XmadXscientist]

250mg of test cyp per week isn’t going to kill him, 200mg is around the typical trt dose. You’re blindly making the assumption this is causing his “bloated” look? Then to recitfy this alleged problem you gave him an assortment of meds to take? Next you want to get his test levels back to normal then have him go on trt? Oh and to top things off you’ve been thinking about having him try low dose test and hgh??? He’s already doing low dose test as it is...

A typical first cycle is 250mg twice a week for a total of 500mg per week.

Is this post actually in regards to yourself and not your “father”?

 

[XmadXscientist]

Please GTFOH moron. Trt and blasting are two different things retard

Lol it’s pretty well known you’re a troll and the advice you give is shit.

I don’t know what the fuck you’re trying to get at as I didn’t compare the two.

 

[ironwill1951]

250 mg of test is not likely to hurt him, I'm 66 and been on 150-200 mg a week for the last 10 yrs. all my bloods are normal for a man my age. I just had a physical at the mayo clinic and no enlarged heart.

 

[CalRon]

No, I haven't given him anything to consume without receiving bloodwork first. I ordered the bloodwork for him, hopefully he will get tested within the next week.

He came to visit me, so I sent him home with Aromasin, HCG, Clomid, and Nolvadex. Everything he would need for a PCT. He hasnt actually consumed anything. I wouldn't do that without the results.

I am assuming he has high estrogen because of how bloated he has looked the last few times Ive seen him. I only see him once or twice per year, my parents live out of state.

I NEVER recommended my father take Test without Dr supervision because I am concerned for his health due to his age. I meant that the thought crossed my mind, but I never acted on it. I am pissed because some other jerk off took matters into his own hands and gave my Dad the steroids instead.

 

[CalRon]

And you guys are correct, I am not a doctor, so PCT probably wouldn't be a good idea because he may have an adverse reaction at his age. His body may not be as forgiving as those of us who are much younger.

Maybe its best for him to go straight to a TRT center, be upfront with the doctor, and hope that the doc will help set him on the right path from this point forward?

 

[HIGHRISK]

250 will put his total t around 1500. That's way too high for his age.

I think 150mg/week is a better dosage for his age. That will put his total testosterone around 800.

You do not want to give him a heart enlarging dosage at his age. On the other hand if his hpta is already compromised, the last thing you want is to pull him off trt. Low testosterone (shutdown caused by steroids) at his age can cause him a heart attack. He needs his healthy dosage of testosterone; everyone at his age most certainly can benefit from it and leave a longer life with a higher quality of life.

Lol 250 equals 1500. Then explain why at 200 a week mine was 719 at 38 yrs old?

@Millard Baker how is this guy still allowed to post here?

 

[HIGHRISK]

250 mg of test is not likely to hurt him, I'm 66 and been on 150-200 mg a week for the last 10 yrs. all my bloods are normal for a man my age. I just had a physical at the mayo clinic and no enlarged heart.

At 66 your jacked

 

[CalRon]

250mg of test cyp per week isn’t going to kill him, 200mg is around the typical trt dose. You’re blindly making the assumption this is causing his “bloated” look? Then to recitfy this alleged problem you gave him an assortment of meds to take? Next you want to get his test levels back to normal then have him go on trt? Oh and to top things off you’ve been thinking about having him try low dose test and hgh??? He’s already doing low dose test as it is...

A typical first cycle is 250mg twice a week for a total of 500mg per week.

Is this post actually in regards to yourself and not your “father”?

I clearly must have not explained myself very well, so I will try again.

Yes, I did make the assumption he is bloated from estrogen, but I do think his diet is another major factor.

I sent him home with meds incase he needs them for PCT. I also sent him home with Aromasin incase his estradiol is elevated (still needs to take blood work).

I did NOT have him consume any drugs.

I have played around with the idea of having him take TRT or HGH over the years, but never acted on it because I don't want to hurt his health. My Dad ended up taking Testosterone on his own without any supervision.

I thought it would be best for him to PCT and try to restore his natural test as much as possible. I understand the likelihood of that is slim to none, but then he would qualify for TRT since his test will be low. I am not sure if a Doctor will help him knowing he is currently taking Test without doctor supervision. But now Im thinking it may be best to be upfront with a doctor and hope that they will help him out from this pint forward.

Hopefully this clarified what I was trying to say in my original message. Thanks for helping me out.

 

[XmadXscientist]

And you guys are correct, I am not a doctor, so PCT probably wouldn't be a good idea because he may have an adverse reaction at his age. His body may not be as forgiving as those of us who are much younger.

Maybe its best for him to go straight to a TRT center, be upfront with the doctor, and hope that the doc will help set him on the right path from this point forward?

Wait for labs to come back, he may be fine. Do you have his normal results before he got on anything?

At the end of the day your father is a grown ass man capable of making his own decisions based on the information you provided him. Honestly though I think you’re working yourself up a little bit.

 

[HIGHRISK]

I clearly must have not explained myself very well, so I will try again.

Yes, I did make the assumption he is bloated from estrogen, but I do think his diet is another major factor.

I sent him home with meds incase he needs them for PCT. I also sent him home with Aromasin incase his estradiol is elevated (still needs to take blood work).

I did NOT have him consume any drugs.

I have played around with the idea of having him take TRT or HGH over the years, but never acted on it because I don't want to hurt his health. My Dad ended up taking Testosterone on his own without any supervision.

I thought it would be best for him to PCT and try to restore his natural test as much as possible. I understand the likelihood of that is slim to none, but then he would qualify for TRT since his test will be low. I am not sure if a Doctor will help him knowing he is currently taking Test without doctor supervision. But now Im thinking it may be best to be upfront with a doctor and hope that they will help him out from this pint forward.

Hopefully this clarified what I was trying to say in my original message. Thanks for helping me out.

Plain and simple.. Send him to the dr and tell the dr exactly what and how long he's been doing it. That's it. Leave it alone. If he's not satisfied with his answers get a second and third opinion.

 

[CalRon]

Wait for labs to come back, he may be fine. Do you have his normal results before he got on anything?

At the end of the day your father is a grown ass man capable of making his own decisions based on the information you provided him. Honestly though I think you’re working yourself up a little bit.

Im sure the VA has my Dads health records, but my Dad doesn't have them on hand. He was perfectly healthy, minus hypertension before he started taking Test. He claims he is still healthy as a horse right now.

Im sure I am overreacting a bit. When he told me he's been on this dose for over 1 year I got pissed. Especially mad because he has no clue what he's doing and his buddy is just selling him this shit without giving him any information.

You're right, my dad is a grown as man, but I get mad when I think of how he could hurt my Mother. If his health goes down the drain, it will devastate my Mom. So Naturally, I am upset. Ohwell, at least the guy wasn't taking a gram per week. Could be much worse!

 

[optimus04]

Who pins him? Does he pin himself? Why not run trt rest of his life he's already 69

 

[CalRon]

Who pins him? Does he pin himself? Why not run trt rest of his life he's already 69

He pins himself once per week. Fucker didn't even know about dividing his cheeks into quadrants and which to pin. Said he hit a nerve and puckered up. Lol.

I asked him yesterday and he said he doesn't want to be on TRT for the rest of his life. So that was another reason why I thought PCT would be a good idea. He may not have much of an option now because he is old and been on test for so long. It will probably be difficult for his natural test to fully recover.