SwolieGuacamole
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In my digging today. I’ve seen people talking about their penis shrinking. Soo, why aren’t we talking about this lol.
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MESO-Rx
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Accutane permanent cure?
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Ghoul
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Because it's bullshit
Isotretinoin can slightly lower testosterone in a minority of patients, causing temporary ED if someone's borderline T levels. Not an issue for most here I'd assume and very rare regardless.
SwolieGuacamole
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I saw the whole ED thing. And some mentioning Fin like effects, and it being permanent. But I did find a hand full of people mentioning it getting thinner. Not sure what’s truthful, but I’ve seen multiple mentions across multiple boards.Because it's bullshit
Isotretinoin can slightly lower testosterone in a minority of patients, causing temporary ED if someone's borderline T levels. Not an issue for most here I'd assume and very rare regardless.
mikeh1998
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People who post nonsense about X compound causing penis shrinkage or ED are anxiety riddled and paranoid to the point that we should consider forcing them to take medication. Maybe SSRI/antipsychotic implants or something.
It is also sexually gratifying for them to talk about their penis online and even more gratifying for them to hear people taking them seriously.
They love to shoehorn their dick into the discussion of every single possible compound or activity because it’s like flashing to them, “my dick is so tiny and useless, but I’m getting attention on this thread where I talked about my penis, this is so hot and validating, I feel like a real man again because other men are talking about it and giving it attention”.
It’s kinda like the forum equivalent of how some men will be texting a girl for a few days and then randomly send a picture of their sometimes completely flaccid, hairy and unkept dick to her mid conversation without warning.
SwolieGuacamole
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Didn’t see it discussed in here, but I’m curious.
Energy, motivation and libido is being hit pretty hard. Im seeing that acc has been found to lower DHT. Has anyone felt similar and experimented with something like proviron for example. Was going to run 30mg ED to see if I notice any changes.
Energy, motivation and libido is being hit pretty hard. Im seeing that acc has been found to lower DHT. Has anyone felt similar and experimented with something like proviron for example. Was going to run 30mg ED to see if I notice any changes.
Ghoul
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How many dermatologists have been sued for permanent Accutane induced ED? 50,000,000 patients over the last 40 years, should add up to quite a few.
Also seemed to slip under the radar despite thousands of in depth studies regarding isotretinoin and its effects.
ED can be easily induced psychogenically.
I've even seen people claim Minoxidil causes permanent ED, because too much finasteride can cause it (temporarily by crashing DHT). The mere fact Minoxidil is related to hair loss was enough to cause a reddit epidemic of Minox induced sexual dysfunction.
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nullandvoid
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I'm glad I forgot about the DHT stuff for Accutane. Otherwise, I might have not tried it. Halfway in, I've just had the standard side effects so far... and I just recently added that low-dose Fin/Minox combo a few weeks ago. Even with that, I've not noticed any DHT issues (yet, anyway). One of my best metrics is how I "hang." Lower DHT seems to influence flaccid size for me, and nothing has changed.
Ghoul
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In my experience you'll know the full effects of a Finasteride dose within the first few days. Sounds like you're in the clear, I just went to .5mg from years at .25mg, and it's all good. Keep in mind, 1mg destroys me, so I'm much more sensitive than most.
I'm going to try low dose Dutasteride, .125mg, quarter tablets, now that I know a tablet form is available,
AlexDavis43
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Some people get personally offended if you suggest the drugs they use could possibly cause erectile dysfunction.
Ghoul
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Some people are passive aggressive in nature and speak cryptically to avoid conflict.
brutalbuilt
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im on test deca and accutane rn and i have raging boners
AlexDavis43
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I've been using Retin-a for over a decade. Kept using it through a full course of Accutane.
SwolieGuacamole
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Just wanted to add to this. Been on provirion and feel much better. I’ll see how it plays out but the fatigue was crippling before. I still sleep a lot more, but I don’t beg for mid day naps, all day long lol.
It was making my lifts terrible. For example, last week I got 225 flat bench for 8 giving all I had, which is pathetic. Called the lift early. Yesterday got 225 for 20.
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Xplicit
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Anyone else have issues with Gyno when they take accutane?
I did a course in my early 20s and I swear its what caused me to not be able to run even basic trt test for several years. Extreme estrogen sensitivity.
Tried to run some last summer but within a few days my tits were throbbing. Had to drop it and pop nolva for a few weeks straight till it settled down.
Would love to do a small course and clear up some bacne but not trying to trade clear skin for zero testosterone again.
I did a course in my early 20s and I swear its what caused me to not be able to run even basic trt test for several years. Extreme estrogen sensitivity.
Tried to run some last summer but within a few days my tits were throbbing. Had to drop it and pop nolva for a few weeks straight till it settled down.
Would love to do a small course and clear up some bacne but not trying to trade clear skin for zero testosterone again.
nullandvoid
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Into my 12th week of this obnoxious medication... my fifth week being at 160mg/day. The sides have shifted around a bit. The rectal/hemorrhoid problem is completely gone; nothing but a nice pucker, now. Lips are a constant annoyance, and I'm constantly biting off small strips of skin. I cannot keep them hydrated enough. My eyes have also had an uptick in irritation, so my use of eye drops has increased to multiple times a day. Behaviorally, I've been dealing with some crushing depression/despair, but it is difficult to ascribe that to the Accutane because I am no stranger to either. It seems to get much worse in the winter, yet use of sun lamps doesn't seem to help. Anyway, I'm going to be finishing up right as I'm going on a weeklong trip to the beach, so not very good timing. Will just have to be liberal with the sunscreen.. something I've never really had to do before because I've always been very dark from MT2, which I stopped a few months back.
Ghoul
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Seasonal affective disorder, an exclusively northern hemisphere affliction, is often unsuccessfully treated with antidepressants, light therapy, etc. But it often drives down thyroid function, robbing energy, ruining mood, causing weight gain.
A small, 25-50mcg, dose of T4 can be surprisingly effective in restoring your "normal self". Remember, in the morning on an empty stomach 30 mins before food. Should notice an improvement within a few days. Like "leap out of bed" improvement.
mikeh1998
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Studies of thyroid function might help to clarify the biological mechanisms involved in the pathogenesis of SAD and seasonality. We studied blood levels of free thyroxine (T4) and thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) in 75 SAD patients and 74 matched controls in the winter. Subjects with overt hypothyroidism were excluded from the study population. We found that levels of free T4 were significantly lower in patients than in normal volunteers, but that there was no difference in TSH levels between SAD patients and healthy volunteers.
Cool... I don't know shit about thyroid hormones though.
How do you know what time of year to stop and start? Would it hurt to take it year round?
Ghoul
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It's not clinically "appropriate" to take by conventional standards unless you're officially hypothyroidal. But even 50mcg is a microdose (the normal dose is 1.7mcg/kg, so 150mcg for a 200lb person, can be up to double that). Some endocrinologists, like some TRT specialists, believe in treating the "symptoms" and not the numbers however, so it is sometimes prescribed even when everything's in range. Provided you're not hyperthyroid, or on the edge, there's little risk of such a small dose. OTC "thyroid supplements" often contain as much or even double, nearly 100mcg, without widespread health issues.
To be safe get a thyroid panel, and a month after starting if you want to be cautious.
As to when to stop, if you're getting hyper, have a racing heart, sweating, undesired weight loss, those are all signs it's too much.
Lack of energy, depressive mood, sensitivity to cold, are all signs, potentially, of seasonally induced low T4.
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