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Adipotide (ftpp)

Ghoul said:
Not a dig at the OP, it is appealing in theory, but it's the one product that pisses me off when I see some UGLs selling it. GW50516 is low risk compared to this.
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They make it sound like it works wonders with alot of the info they put under the description these ugls.
But atleast as for me trying it and being straight about it, its nothing spectacular theres way more effective cutting fatloss aid compounds out there imo.
But you gotto actually stil diet hard just like when using any aas trying to get to single digits bf.
My end goal was use it as tool in my arsenal to see if the stuff was legit or aided cutting but didnt do much.

Hope this info helps others looking into this pep or curious trying it.
 
Imip007 said:
They make it sound like it works wonders with alot of the info they put under the description these ugls.
But atleast as for me trying it and being straight about it, its nothing spectacular theres way more effective cutting fatloss aid compounds out there imo.
But you gotto actually stil diet hard just like when using any aas trying to get to single digits bf.
My end goal was use it as tool in my arsenal to see if the stuff was legit or aided cutting but didnt do much.

Hope this info helps others looking into this pep or curious trying it.
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That's why it angers me. It's very easy for someone to do some research and come away with a very positive impression. You have to be plugged into the grapevine or dig really, really deep to find anything about the hazards. Someone could easily do a reasonable amount of homework, assume because vendors are hawking it it's not especially dangerous, and could end up in bad shape if they use an entire kit.

A good reminder drug dealers don't GAF about customers.
 
Imip007 said:
They make it sound like it works wonders with alot of the info they put under the description these ugls.
But atleast as for me trying it and being straight about it, its nothing spectacular theres way more effective cutting fatloss aid compounds out there imo.
But you gotto actually stil diet hard just like when using any aas trying to get to single digits bf.
My end goal was use it as tool in my arsenal to see if the stuff was legit or aided cutting but didnt do much.

Hope this info helps others looking into this pep or curious trying it.
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because they're selling it, and if someone ends up with cancer or organ failure it will never get back to them. They'll risk someone dying to make $50

Makes me worry about all these normies using these vendors for GLPs and buying a bunch of other random peptides like they are just injectable supplements not realizing they are buying chemicals from people without a conscious.

anyway, thanks for trying it and telling us how it went, this is a data point that will discourage anyone else from trying it.
 
Ghoul said:
Not a dig at the OP, it is appealing in theory, but it's the one product that pisses me off when I see some UGLs selling it. GW50516 is low risk compared to this.
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I'm assuming you don't mean GW is a low risk compound though correct? But in comparison I agree If that's what your meaning.
 
Imip007 said:
Yeah i think bostin there was alot of other compounds he was abusing that contributed to his kidney issues and this may have just made things worse i guess.
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I loved Bostin and he was well on his way out. But I believe he jumped from stage 3 kidney failure to stage 5 with 1 run of Adipotide. He was shooting a vial a day for a month. It's actually very sad. In an interview with Dave Palumbo he was saying he has no fear of doing a contest prep on dialysis, crazy man.
 
PaintDrinker said:
I'm assuming you don't mean GW is a low risk compound though correct? But in comparison I agree If that's what your meaning.
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I won't use it anymore. I don't recommend it.

Mainly though, it's hard to research it and not come across a cancer reference.

A potential user doing the bare minimum has a fair shot of learning there's a risk.

Not with Adipotide.
 
I wonder if the name of the "popular source" here starts q and ends with c

PaintDrinker said:
I'm assuming you don't mean GW is a low risk compound though correct? But in comparison I agree If that's what your meaning.
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Have you run cardarine PD.?

All I had heard about adipotide was that it was not safe to take.
But when I then had a look at the very few studies out there, all they say is that the toxicity is dose dependent and damage to kidneys is mild and reversible , when discontinued.
In what I read, they seemed to downplay the severity of renal lesions.
Maybe you found something else and more up to date.

B. Lloyd is (in)famously associated with this drug.
But don't you think that he was using insane amounts?
If the damage is dose dependent, in his case how surprised can one be?
 
iris said:
I wonder if the name of the "popular source" here starts q and ends with c



Have you run cardarine PD.?

All I had heard about adipotide was that it was not safe to take.
But when I then had a look at the very few studies out there, all they say is that the toxicity is dose dependent and damage to kidneys is mild and reversible , when discontinued.
In what I read, they seemed to downplay the severity of renal lesions.
Maybe you found something else and more up to date.

B. Lloyd is (in)famously associated with this drug.
But don't you think that he was using insane amounts?
If the damage is dose dependent, in his case how surprised can one be?
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I think the bigger tell is the company that developed it, threw it away, People are willing to put up with so much to lose fat, and pay any price, anything effective that would only do truly reversible damage, and merely controlling the dose for short term use were enough to make it safe, they'd have found a way. Like having to get the shots in a doctors / plastic surgeons office and charging $2000 per session. There'd be a line out the door.
 
iris said:
I wonder if the name of the "popular source" here starts q and ends with c



Have you run cardarine PD.?

All I had heard about adipotide was that it was not safe to take.
But when I then had a look at the very few studies out there, all they say is that the toxicity is dose dependent and damage to kidneys is mild and reversible , when discontinued.
In what I read, they seemed to downplay the severity of renal lesions.
Maybe you found something else and more up to date.

B. Lloyd is (in)famously associated with this drug.
But don't you think that he was using insane amounts?
If the damage is dose dependent, in his case how surprised can one be?
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About source you got it.

Iv tried cardarine in the past i would say it helped with hdl ldl on my bloods for sure as for fatloss nothing too noticable but did help with my cardio for sure.

Bostin was hammering 5mg daily with his present kidney issues you gotta remember that and everything else in his ammo.
 
Ghoul said:
I think the bigger tell is the company that developed it, threw it away, People are willing to put up with so much to lose fat, and pay any price, anything effective that would only do truly reversible damage, and merely controlling the dose for short term use were enough to make it safe, they'd have found a way. Like having to get the shots in a doctors / plastic surgeons office and charging $2000 per session. There'd be a line out the door.
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True, but also the data can get manipulated and/or read in a certain way, that would skew actual numbers.
I am not saying it is not dangerous, not at all.
But then anything that is abused becomes dangerous.
The animal data is also difficult to translate to humans.

But they did try it on people too, or was it just monkeys?
 
iris said:
True, but also the data can get manipulated and/or read in a certain way, that would skew actual numbers.
I am not saying it is not dangerous, not at all.
But then anything that is abused becomes dangerous.
The animal data is also difficult to translate to humans.

But they did try it on people too, or was it just monkeys?
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FDA approved Phase 1 clinical trial meant it was given to a small group of closely monitored, healthy(other than being overweight), volunteers.

For commercial reasons, they are allowed at that early phase to keep results private and deal with any harm via whatever contract they had with the test subjects.
 
Imip007 said:
About source you got it.

Iv tried cardarine in the past i would say it helped with hdl ldl on my bloods for sure as for fatloss nothing too noticable but did help with my cardio for sure.

Bostin was hammering 5mg daily with his present kidney issues you gotta remember that and everything else in his ammo.
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Yes, there you go, that and everything else he was also taking, with pre existing issues.

The cardarine thing reminded me I wanted to reply to a thread and then forgot; have to do it at some point.

I am thinking about getting some and running a low dose for a while.
Not yet, there's other bits I need to sort out before I venture there, but as for cardarine I think I have made my mind up.
I may do it for a while.
How long did you take it for?

Thanks for the reply, BTW
:)
 
iris said:
I wonder if the name of the "popular source" here starts q and ends with c



Have you run cardarine PD.?

All I had heard about adipotide was that it was not safe to take.
But when I then had a look at the very few studies out there, all they say is that the toxicity is dose dependent and damage to kidneys is mild and reversible , when discontinued.
In what I read, they seemed to downplay the severity of renal lesions.
Maybe you found something else and more up to date.

B. Lloyd is (in)famously associated with this drug.
But don't you think that he was using insane amounts?
If the damage is dose dependent, in his case how surprised can one be?
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Cardarine *was* one of my favorite compounds of all time. VO2 max increased significantly within 3-4 days. All my run times improved by 15-20% within weeks, all while feeling significantly easier. My main issue with it is that it definitely does cause cancer, I can explain.

A lot of people throw this around “they were giving mice hundreds of mgs way more than a person would ever take” but in reality some bro on the internet couldn’t properly do the rodent to human mg/kg conversion properly. The lowest cancer causing dose given to rodents is the human equivalent of 45mgs.

A second thing to consider. When looking at the actual function of PPAR specifically over-expression you find that it always leads to higher cancer rates whether it’s human cell lines or in nature. When human thyroid cell lines are exposed to GW rapid cell mutation and cancer follows. Looking at the studies on genetically modified field mice specifically designed to have genes that over express PPAR they develop cancer very quickly as well and lived only half the lifespan of the standard field mice. PPAR over expression makes it incredibly easy for cancer cells to spread and thrive for that matter in harsh environments where that would not otherwise be the case.

We can also look at the liver toxicity/regenerative effects it has. This is interesting as it can essentially cure fatty liver disease and significantly reduce liver inflammation while at the same time scarring the portal veins entering and exiting the liver. So good and bad there.

My view based on roughly 150 hours of research is that yes is certainly does cause cancer, but similar to that of cigarettes. Definitely don’t just take it and get cancer, I believe long term exposure significantly increases the chances of a malignancy. With all that being said I have roughly 12 months of exposure to GW at 20mgs a day and I’m totally fine. My HDL was a 60 on a gram of gear, that speaks volumes to its effects on lipids.

Last thing, it’s a horrible bodybuilding drug. It temporarily converts fast twitch muscle fibers to slow twitch, making the users strength go down. Sure you can lower the weight and crush high rep sets but still not ideal.

I was able to do runs like this 5 days a week at 230lbs for additional context on 20mgs of gw.IMG_6449.webp
 
iris said:
B. Lloyd is (in)famously associated with this drug.
But don't you think that he was using insane amounts?
If the damage is dose dependent, in his case how surprised can one be?
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Apologies my autism kicked in and I went on a Cardarine tirade instead of actually responding to the main content of your message. I think FTPP is definitely renal toxic but Bostin Loyd clearly abused this stuff and that’s more than likely why his consequences were so severe. For the average user short term low dose based on the limited studies it’s more than likely not going to have the same outcome but how many dice rolls are we willing to take is what it comes down too. I will always say diet and cardio work 100% of the time, throw in a GLP and all of this shit is completely unnecessary. I think people have this impulse to want results fast, and with less effort and that’s an issue, I’m by no means trying to insult OP but with the popularity of some of these toxic fat burning drugs I can’t help but notice a correlation.
 
PaintDrinker said:
Apologies my autism kicked in and I went on a Cardarine tirade instead of actually responding to the main content of your message. I think FTPP is definitely renal toxic but Bostin Loyd clearly abused this stuff and that’s more than likely why his consequences were so severe. For the average user short term low dose based on the limited studies it’s more than likely not going to have the same outcome but how many dice rolls are we willing to take is what it comes down too. I will always say diet and cardio work 100% of the time, throw in a GLP and all of this shit is completely unnecessary. I think people have this impulse to want results fast, and with less effort and that’s an issue, I’m by no means trying to insult OP but with the popularity of some of these toxic fat burning drugs I can’t help but notice a correlation.
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I feel GLP have pretty much tipped the balance for risk/benefit and made ALL the other weight loss compounds obsolete. Carderine and Clen included. Once one of the muscle sparing peptides makes it to approval and added to a GLP class med it's game over for the other stuff. You'll simply starve yourself just above the point of being able to function and minimize whatever residual muscle loss potential still exists with the muscle sparing drug, and you'll get the fastest cutting time possible.
 
iris said:
Yes, there you go, that and everything else he was also taking, with pre existing issues.

The cardarine thing reminded me I wanted to reply to a thread and then forgot; have to do it at some point.

I am thinking about getting some and running a low dose for a while.
Not yet, there's other bits I need to sort out before I venture there, but as for cardarine I think I have made my mind up.
I may do it for a while.
How long did you take it for?

Thanks for the reply, BTW
:)
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I ran it for around 2 months @ 20-30mg
 
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