Affordable Care Act (ACA) - Obamacare

Since you bring up the subject of "free rides" how do you feel about government corporate welfare? Corn subsdies; you know, the ones that bring us high fuctose cor syrup that is contaminating nearly our entire food supply. Should that subject be part of any inteligent healthcare discussion?

Farm Subsidies Must Die - Reason.com

Some of you are so fixated on making sure the the ACA fails and discrediting Obama that you cant see the forest for the trees. Or maybe you just dont care.
Homeboy, try and look at it from outside your box. One, all gov programs go to far. That aside, to pay farmers to grow food (subsidized prices) is to assure that seeds are being planted in all parts of the country. Would there be a drought or blight in an area of the country ( thank your stars) you wont starve. Because food (subsidizes food) is being grown all over the country. AKA National Defense
You gotta pay the man who feeds you. Like it or not.
Corn syrup my goodness, what will the lawyers hook you on next?[:o)]
The aca has failed. Its over. Adjust to the reality.
 
Under Health Care Act, Millions Eligible for Free Policies
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/b...-act-millions-eligible-for-free-policies.html

Millions of people could qualify for federal subsidies that will pay the entire monthly cost of some health care plans being offered in the online marketplaces set up under President Obama’s health care law, a surprising figure that has not garnered much attention, in part because the zero-premium plans come with serious trade-offs.
 
'I Would Jump At It'
The media labeled her an Obamacare victim. Here's what she really thinks.
Obamacare "Victim" in Florida Happy She Can Get Real Coverage | New Republic

Barrette's story isn't a stand-in for everybody losing existing coverage—a group that represents a tiny proportion of the population, yet still numbers in the millions. Even so, Barrette's tale provides a good window into some of the primary changes taking place as a result of Obamacare. Those changes are way more complicated than the initial media coverage suggested.
 
Remember a previous post regarding the increase of Medicaid enrollments.
CBS News: Explosion in Medicaid Enrollments May ‘Threaten Entire Structure’ of Obamacare

Now with more Doctor's opting out, how long will it take for the following to become party platform... Just wondering

Virginia Democrat Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid Patients
November 02, 2013

You would think that when your party is burying a hole that is getting harder and harder to get out of, you wouldn't want to that hole get deeper faster. But here is Kathleen Murphy, Democrat running for the House of Delegates against Barbara Comstock, telling a forum in Great Falls that she believes it should law to force doctors to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients. Forced by government decree, mind you. A birdie sent me this:

FYI last night at the Great Falls Grange debate, Democrat delegate candidate Kathleen Murphy said that since many doctors are not accepting medicaid and medicare patients, she advocates making it a legal requirement for those people to be accepted.
She did not recognize that the payments are inadequate to cover the doctors' costs. She also did not recognize there is a shortage of over 45,000 physicians now and that it is forecast to be 90,000 in a few years.

Democrats appear to want to make physicians slaves of the state, but Democrats don't admit they would just drive more doctors out of practice into retirement and other occupations. The Obamacare law and regulations are causing millions of people to lose their health insurance, drop many doctors and hospitals. The HHS internal forecast is 93 million Americans would lose their health insurance due to the Obamacare law and rules about adequacy of insurance.

Many more people will be uninsured. The penalties for being uninsured start at $95 per year, but the penalties can't be collected by the IRS if a person does not have a tax refund to attach.

The out of pocket costs required by Obamacare's Silver Plan for a non-smoking mother and father with two children making a gross before income taxes of $50,000 (roughly average salary for VA) would be $13,765 per year including the deductible of $10,400. That's 28% of their gross income -- not very affordable and about the same as guidelines for a mortgage payment. For such a family making $100,000 of gross income, The cost would be $21,431 including the deductible of $12,700, or 21% of gross income.

With such high deductibles doctors are stuck with trying to collect cash from the patients, even at regulated charge structures. Thus is makes sense for primary care doctors not to participate in Obamacare, medicare and medicaid. They should encourage patients to participate in Concierge Care and insurance programs run by the doctors themselves with patients who can do simple math. Patients can take out catastrophic insurance with high deductibles for major surgeries. Tax deductability for individual medical savings accounts would make health care more affordable.

The head of Obamacare programs, Berwick, loves the socialized medical system in the UK, but never mentions that malpractice insurance is minimal. In the UK, panels of doctors review and approve malpractice awards, rather than emotional juries misled by trial lawyers. Malpractice reform like this with caps on malpractice awards would go a long way in making health care affordable.

I hope physicians rise up and speak out for common sense, protecting quality medical care in the US and giving patients freedom to choose.

THIS along with the fact that Terry McAuliffe has already said he'd go to the government shutdown mat to get a state exchange in Virginia. Unbelievable. Combine the chaos of thousands of people across Virginia losing their health insurance, we are going to add to that on the state level by forcing doctors to accept patients they can't afford to help? Unbelievable. Dark days are ahead, but there is still time. Three days to make sure this does not happen.

Democrats in Virginia will drive up health care costs, drive doctors out of the state, and then drive health care costs up even more because there will not be enough doctors practicing in the state.
 
Well no it's not "free", someone else is paying for it, and they're called taxpayers!

Ergo the headline SHOULD READ; thank the taxpayers who will be paying for your "free health care"!
 
"Forcing docs to accept CMS" patients, read my posts less than one mo ago on this very issue!
 
Hey Millard how would you "feel" if the government "forced you" to accept anti-AAS ads for a fee 10% of the current market value!

(Oh rest assured they would ensure Meso doesn't "profit" for these ads. Nope they would fund the bare minimal for your "operating costs".

:)
 
Hey Millard how would you "feel" if the government "forced you" to accept anti-AAS ads for a fee 10% of the current market value! In exchange for affordable access to and knowledge of AAS to all who want it.

(Oh rest assured they would ensure Meso doesn't "profit" for these ads. Nope they would fund the bare minimal for your "operating costs".

:)

How would you feel indeed? :)
 
Last edited:
Hey do you folks know WHY CMS patients whom go to the ED for PC services is "prohibitively expensive"?

Because even though the DOC whom evaluates that Medicare/Medicaid patient is reimbursed essentially the same rate for the same diagnosis as an "out patient physician", our dearly beloved government allows the hospital to bill for and collect a "facility fee" which depending upon state and the particular institution involved is AT LEAST 10 times the diagnostic fee.

Moreover in some cases it can be 20 times the diagnostic fee!

That's right, when a CMS patient is evaluated in a hospital and diagnosed with a "cold" that greedy physician receives a whopping $17.00 for his efforts, while the hospital is allotted close to $200.00 (at least) !

Now anyone with half a brain KNOWS that system ENCOURAGES hospitals to seek out CMS patients and helps explain WHY doctors can not AND do not!

The easy fix, cut the "facility fee" in half and pay the PCP docs a reasonable rate, something close to $50.00 seems "reasonable" IMO'

This is another classic example of government waste, fraud and abuse of SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY
(the taxpayers)!

Jim
 
JC....$50? If I walk in the room and don't even put on gloves and make a diagnosis that requires no procedure to be performed it's $85. If I have to touch a tooth it automatically starts at $225. For an 8 hour work day I need to average $1200-1500 per hour to keep my current lifestyle. That would be 24-30 patients at $50 per patient....instead including cleanings I average 6 patients per hour.
 
In Kentucky, a Glimpse of Health Insurance Help
http://www.nytimes.com/news/afforda...surance-help/?smid=tw-nytimeshealth&seid=auto

Ms. Albrecht, 42, is among the roughly 1,000 people a day who are signing up for coverage through Kentucky’s online insurance marketplace, or exchange, a volume that state officials say has far exceeded their expectations. The success of the exchange, known as Kynect, contrasts sharply with the technical failures of the federally run exchange serving 36 states. Even some state-run exchanges, including those in Maryland and Oregon, have struggled so far.
 
Yeah my mother does pretty well....she and my father had no retirement savings when he passed....now she's on the payroll.

Props to you for taking care of those that raised you and cared for you.

It's not the norm these days.
 
My fathers mother lived with us until her passing. Grandpa was a coal miner and didnt have much to leave her but the house.

Needless to say she had little if any insurance and just a pittance of SS survivors benefits.

The ACA mightve been a real shot in the arm for her,I dont know.

I loved every moment spent with Grandma and learned firsthand of things like the Dustbowl,world war I and II, Korea and Vietnam as well as the Great Depression and Prohibition. To name only a few topics.

I thought it was incredible that I had "two Mothers" under the same roof but Id rather she had better access to healthcare when heart disease overtook her already diabetes wracked 4'11" frame.

Goose
 
Political discussions like these can, and usually do, end up as heated arguments. I avoided them often in my life. However, over the past 6-7 years I have gotten more interested in the US political conversation. Right now, the stakes are the highest they've ever been, imo. On one side, you have a population who believes the govt is the answer. That Washington and the bureaucrats know best what's best for them and their family's lives. A"one size fits all approach"; On the other side, the side I dwell, we believe in the freedom of individuals. The freedom for us to decide whats best for OURSELVES and our families. We believe that the Federal govt has a role, but a smaller role then what we see today. Mainly, to provide national security, provide basic infrastructure and apply a few "federal laws". But mostly, we believe in the right of state & local governments to decide what's best for their LOCAL constituents! Not some appointed, not elected but "appointed", washington bureaucrat who could be thousands of miles away. IMO, we find ourselves in the midst of a debate, and our country's future hangs in the balance. Which direction do we want to go in this country?
If Obama care is fully implemented, this country will be unrecognizable in just a few years. I'm a small business owner. I'm in the trenches everyday. I talk to other small business owners, and let me tell you. OC will absolutely FORCE most small businesses to drop there employee HC benefits. It's already happening all over the country. It was just learned the other day that Obama, and the administration knew this would happen! They knew about it as far back as 2010! He has now started to turn a complete 180 and say that what he said, and always said, to the american people is that " if you want to keep you HC plan, you can keep it................ BEFORE the law is implemented". What in the FUCK is that? Does this guy really think we are that stupid? I mean, I suppose some of HIS voters are. But not anyone who even remotely follows the news. The left wing media can try to spin that anyway they want to. We have a word for that in this country. It's called LYING! Former presidents have had their legacy tarnished for far less then that. If we don't demand better from our elected leaders, and hold them to account...what's that say about us?
 
To clarify my last post, as I was in a hurry:
OC and the "grandfather clause" basically states that you can keep your HC plan, as it's "grandfathered" in, as long as it doesn't change, and meets the OC healthe exchange guidelines if it changes. Here's the slight of hand:
Almost ALL HC policies & plans change something at one point or another. Let's say for example, your co-pay goes from $10 to $15. BAM. Your health plan just changed, and if it doesn't meet the OC guidelines, you've just been dropped. That simple. The Obama administration knew this and continually sold this under the guise of, "if you want to keep you health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. Nobody's going to take it away from you." Mr. President, and all you Obama supporters out there, tell that to the estimated 16 million who have/or will lose their HC plans:
Millions of Americans Are Losing Their Health Plans Because of Obamacare | The Weekly Standard
 
Not to rain on your hopes and dreams of ACA for Americans greatest generation but since she was familiar with the GD, WW I and II whether your GM had " health care" in that era would not have mattered one iota!

Why? Because current life saving technologies (excluding a few IMMUNIZATIONS and ABX) we not available until the late sixties and seventies!

For instance if you had an an heart attack the orders were bedrest, ASA and prayer.

The Tx of HTN was limited to a few drugs, most with intolerable side effects.

So the really huge difference today is the COST of providing HC services, since NOW damn near EVERY DISEASE has some form of "therapy", to the masses and maintain the same level of efficacy.

Most people have NO IDEA a bone marrow transplant once considered "experimental" is now the STANDARD for many forms of leukemias BUT at a cost $125K!

In fact as a general rule excepting surgical intervention, the more "deadly" a disease is the more expensive it's treatment!

:)

Jim
 
Will they find a doctor?
Yeah, things are looking up.:eek: If this is your idea of success.

Dr. Scally, are you accepting ACA insured patients? :)

Thanks To Obamacare, A 20,000 Doctor Shortage Is Set To Quintuple

Obamacare is set to provide some 16 million people with health insurance through Medicaid or the new exchanges next year. Unfortunately, their policies may not be worth much — as they may not be able to actually get care.

America is suffering from a doctor shortage. An influx of millions of new patients into the healthcare system will only exacerbate that shortage — driving up the demand for care without doing anything about its supply. Those who get their coverage through Medicaid or the exchanges may feel the effects of the shortage even more acutely, as many providers are opting not to accept their insurance.

Right now, the United States is short some 20,000 doctors, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges. The shortage could quintuple over the next decade, thanks to the aging of the American population — and the aging and consequent retirement of many physicians. Nearly half of the 800,000-plus doctors in the United States are over the age of 50.

Obamacare is further thinning the doctor corps. A Physicians Foundation survey of 13,000 doctors found that 60 percent of doctors would retire today if they could, up from 45 percent before the law passed.

Doctors are also becoming choosier about whom they’ll see.

They’ve long limited the number of Medicaid patients they’ll treat, thanks to the program’s low reimbursement rates. According to a study published in Health Affairs, only 69 percent of doctors accepted new Medicaid patients in 2011. In Florida, just 59 percent do so. And a survey by the Texas Medical Association of doctors in the Lone Star State found that 68 percent either limit or refuse to take new Medicaid patients.

Medicaid pays about 60 percent as much as private insurance. For many doctors, the costs of treating someone on Medicaid are higher than what the government will pay them.

These underpayments have grown worse over time, as cash-strapped states have tried to rein in spending on Medicaid. Ohio hasn’t increased payments to doctors in three years; Kentucky hasn’t raised them in two decades. Colorado, Nebraska, South Carolina, Arizona, Oregon, and Arizona all cut payments in 2011.

By throwing nine million more people into the program without fixing this fatal flaw, Obamacare will make it even harder for Medicaid patients to find doctors.

Healthcare providers are signaling that they may turn away patients who purchase insurance through the exchanges, too.

In California, for example, folks covered by Blue Shield’s exchange plan will have access to about a third of its physician network. The UCLA Medical Center and its doctors are available to customers of just one plan for sale through the state exchange, Covered California. And the prestigious Cedars-Sinai Medical Center is not taking anyone with exchange insurance.

Patients who live in central and southern Maine, meanwhile, stand to lose access to local doctors and hospitals if they buy coverage from the state’s largest health insurer through the exchange. In order to keep premiums down — and comply with all the coverage mandates Obamacare imposes — Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield is looking to contract with just one hospital network, MaineHealth. The insurer told regulators that “this is critically important in offsetting premiums increases” driven by Obamacare.

The partnership might not be a problem if Mainers had other choices through the exchange. But thus far, Anthem and a small, non-profit start-up are the only two firms who have applied to sell coverage on the exchange.

If Medicaid patients and new exchange enrollees can’t actually see doctors, they’ll head to emergency rooms for care. But the nation’s ERs are already in crisis. More than half are over capacity, after some 650 shut down over the past two decades.
 
Back
Top