Alibaba HGH

[DragoT]

I'm going to do as you are and treat these as underdosed and just run a higher number until analyzer comes back with the actual numbers for me.

...and let say Analyser comes back with "3.3mg protein content, 191 amino acids and having a molecular mass of 22kDa"

Then what?

 

[Roco Bama]

I get what you're saying but I think you and I are looking at it from different perspectives. You simply want to know what it's dosed at and the quality but that doesn't change anything. I agree the HPLC testing is warranted to verify what it is and the dosing so moving forward the seller can either be used or discarded but.....

I'm looking at it as he has a bunch of GH that he needs to use effectively and at his current dose he only has a 223 IGF level. So his body's response to the dose he's taking under his normal operating conditions (same as when his Dad posted higher than him) is just that 223. A HPLC test won't change that.

Plus, when would he ever realistically just use GH and not take AAS as you suggested he do when things clear up then test again? He needs to be able to get the results he needs in his current state because that's how he's going to be using it moving forward.

So in my mind the thing he can control is trying to see how much he needs to use to get an effective dose and see that reflected in his IGF numbers. If he doubles his dose and his IGF doesn't change after a week or two then it's most likely just him. If he does see an increase then he will at least know how much he needs to use to get results or IGF number he feels reflects that.

In the end, all any of us care about is the results from the GH as long as it's actually GH and decently priced. It's no different than AAS. If he got under dosed gear he's just take more to get the results he needs. It's always about the results.

I see what you mean. that's actually a good idea. however if 8iu gives him a score of 400 when his taking AAS, that will not be the same when he isn't taking AAS. so he should also know what igf score he normally gets when he's not on a blast/cycle so he can reduce gh dosage and save money.

 

[TRT]

...and let say Analyser comes back with "3.3mg protein content, 191 amino acids and having a molecular mass of 22kDa"

Then what?

Then he needs to pound that shit and retest. Lol jk

 

[Roco Bama]

@Roco Bama
I remember you were getting almost 600 on the godtropin brand treating them like 24iu taking I think 8iu a day? Are you still running that or have you run out? That's a good score and relatively inexpensive too.

i have 3 or 4 kits left. I'll be using them once I run out of blacktops.

 

[OlyLift]

Okie dokie, let me show you how it is done.

The web site name is rongxinbio.com

We go to ICANN WHOIS to check the domain registration details:

Hmm, April 2, 2017?

Issue #1 - no self respecting company will register domain name for one year only and risk someone to forget to renew it (hell, Microsoft forgot to renew hotmail.com, a case that ended in court few years ago).

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Issue #2 - the discrepancy between date of creation of this domain name (rongxinbio.com) and the statement of the web site it self:

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So, they have factory since 2009 and just year ago (in April) someone say "Damn, might be a good idea to have a web site as well"?!?

Issue #3 - phone number (or FEL as they call it). China country code is +86, whereas Honk Kong have +852.

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So, when you call them, someone in China mainland will answer. Why I am not surprised?

Then, the address as listed:



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Lastly, the web site was created and first published on Internet on June 25, 2017 (less than a year ago).

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Does your "bullshit radar" flashing bright red yet?

Not trying to dick ride or anything but this is impressive...learned something new today.

 

[DragoT]

Then he needs to pound that shit and retest. Lol jk

I've asked with all seriousness, my friend. I suspect right now he "hopes" to be bunk/underdosed etc. because a last thing human being will accept is that something is wrong "within". I am not trying to psychoanalyze him, just curious if a reasonable next step would be testing for the specific antibodies. Imagine (God forbid) this source's 191aa is not pure and causes the reaction? How would you characterize this product then? "Pound that shit and hope you're not within 5%?".

 

[Fryguy]

Try Wuhan... theirs is definitely legit I just need to send it off to see how many iu it tests out to. Super cheap, trade assurance, nice people, good communication etc.
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I've been following this thread and placed an order for a kit. I'm still deciding between analyzer and igf testing. Just wanted to point out they added finished oils too. Not sure how I feel about that...

 

[TRT]

I've asked with all seriousness, my friend. I suspect right now he "hopes" to be bunk/underdosed etc. because a last thing human being will accept is that something is wrong "within". I am not trying to psychoanalyze him, just curious if a reasonable next step would be testing for the specific antibodies. Imagine (God forbid) this source's 191aa is not pure and causes the reaction? How would you characterize this product then? "Pound that shit and hope you're not within 5%?".

I was kidding. Really. Trust me we're on the same page. I really think testing from analyzer will help close some variables here.

 

[Roco Bama]

I had my baseline igf tested over a year ago and it was right at 200.. I think 209... I'll have to dig it up.

I was on 5iu in the am, had been running only 30 days at 5 days on 2 days off.

I have bumped the dose up to 7iu to see how I feel, just started the 7iu this morning.

I would love to have my dad run these as well but my mom has banned him. She says that I am playing God and it's not right. She says that humans are supposed to age as they get older and that he has perfect levels for a 68 year old. I said "that's exactly why he should bump his igf up to 280" she disagrees and she is the endocrinologist so I don't have anything to counter with. She has him on TRT but it's only 400ng/dl so pretty low.

I'm going to do as you are and treat these as underdosed and just run a higher number until analyzer comes back with the actual numbers for me.

that sucks for your pop. I had my mom increase her gh dose to 2iu (blacks) a month ago. I'll have her on it for the rest of her life. she's 49 btw

 

[DragoT]

This is indeed serious tread, but every now and then we need a some fun, agreed?

Let's assume for a moment y'all find good, hones, reliable source with 10IU 191aa per vial, 100% pass trough and prices that don't break the bank.

Can y'all raise your hand and repeat after me:

I, @xxxx, solemnly swear that upon finding a source who meets all of the above listed conditions I will immediately share the contact info thus in about a week creating a shit storm of posts about the origin of shipping, packaging, delivery time, will face the wrath of the paid shills and/or novices who don't know what the hell they're doing and patiently explaining that GH is not a "miracle drug" and one have to eat clean, exercise vigorously and last, but not least, I cannot be held not responsible about numb hands and other sides one might or might not have."

Or y'all be like "Fuck that shit"

 

[Rockclimber]

This is indeed serious tread, but every now and then we need a some fun, agreed?

Let's assume for a moment y'all find good, hones, reliable source with 10IU 191aa per vial, 100% pass trough and prices that don't break the bank.

Can y'all raise your hand and repeat after me:

I, @xxxx, solemnly swear that upon finding a source who meets all of the above listed conditions I will immediately share the contact info thus in about a week creating a shit storm of posts about the origin of shipping, packaging, delivery time, will face the wrath of the paid shills and/or novices who don't know what the hell they're doing and patiently explaining that GH is not a "miracle drug" and one have to eat clean, exercise vigorously and last, but not least, I cannot be held not responsible about numb hands and other sides one might or might not have."

Or y'all be like "Fuck that shit"

Most of us have already freely posted our sources online brother

 

[DragoT]

Just kidding, man... or am I? Nah, JK.

 

[BBQ Chicken]

Just to verify @Rockclimber, you used greenway, correct?

@BBQ Chicken, who did you use?

Greenway

 

[Doug_S]

...and let say Analyser comes back with "3.3mg protein content, 191 amino acids and having a molecular mass of 22kDa"

Then what?

That's not how it works. I don't have time to explain it all, but it's not plug and play. You have to have a standard, calibration curves, etc.

 

[DragoT]

That's not how it works. I don't have time to explain it all, but it's not plug and play. You have to have a standard, calibration curves, etc.

I’d love to hear “how it works”. Standard (reference sample) and calibration curves are part of the methodology. It does not change the reported result. Would you be happy to know that a vial contain 3.3mg “protein content and don’t care if it is whey protein or 191aa?

 

[Doug_S]

I’d love to hear “how it works”. Standard (reference sample) and calibration curves are part of the methodology. It does not change the reported result. Would you be happy to know that a vial contain 3.3mg “protein content and don’t care if it is whey protein or 191aa?

If the molecular weight weight is not accurate, the peak would look different on the chromatogram. It's much more precise than you propose.

 

[DragoT]

If the molecular weight weight is not accurate, the peak would look different on the chromatogram. It's much more precise than you propose.

Up until few minutes ago I have not even looked for a test report done by Analyzer. Here is one



USP method, if I understand correctly (and with all seriousness please explain the matter if you know more or I am misinterpret it) is basically a sample from certified United States Pharmacopeia (USP) Reference Standard provider (in USA of course) is ran to "calibrate" for lack of better word the unit and then the test result from the product is compared and final result is generated.

If so, there is something very confusing - reference standard samples are expensive as shit.



You and I know what he charges for a test. I wander how this works on his end...

 

[Doug_S]

Up until few minutes ago I have not even looked for a test report done by Analyzer. Here is one

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USP method, if I understand correctly (and with all seriousness please explain the matter if you know more or I am misinterpret it) is basically a sample from certified United States Pharmacopeia (USP) Reference Standard provider (in USA of course) is ran to "calibrate" for lack of better word the unit and then the test result from the product is compared and final result is generated.

If so, there is something very confusing - reference standard samples are expensive as shit.

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You and I know what he charges for a test. I wander how this works on his end...

Yes, the reference standard is more or less the calibration of the equipment. If you run stuff in a real accredited lab, you must pass performance tests on supplied standards. Best is when the analyst is blinded.

Obviously, that's not possible here and we don't do QA/QC samples either. Protien chemistry is more complex than the stuff I work with.

 

[TRT]

Up until few minutes ago I have not even looked for a test report done by Analyzer. Here is one

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USP method, if I understand correctly (and with all seriousness please explain the matter if you know more or I am misinterpret it) is basically a sample from certified United States Pharmacopeia (USP) Reference Standard provider (in USA of course) is ran to "calibrate" for lack of better word the unit and then the test result from the product is compared and final result is generated.

If so, there is something very confusing - reference standard samples are expensive as shit.

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You and I know what he charges for a test. I wander how this works on his end...

How much is expensive?

 

[mdhx3]

Sorry if this has been covered before; but would a pre and post injection serum hGH level be more helpful than IgF-1?
It is $69 for the test through my work; so not financially out of reach.