Alibaba HGH

[Roco Bama]

Doctor is my mom. She's an endocrinologist but was on vacation, just got back. Really disappointed in my levels... same levels as I got from 4iu Godtropin. 213 or 223 something low like that. She told me on the phone. I'll scan and post the results when I have them in hand.

It is very odd because my dad at 2iu godtropin scored 400+ and at 4iu I scored low 200s. The same thing here happened. I don't know if it's because I weigh 230 lb or because I'm on nolvadex or what? I have all the sides that you get from growth hormone such as increased water retention, facial bloating, carpal tunnel syndrome, extremely fast nail and hair growth, deep deep sleeping. I'm very confused about this, The Next Step will be to send a vial off to analyzer. As of right now I do not recommend this source based on my numbers.

since you got close to the same score from godtropin and your father got great score from the same kit then it has something to do with your body/liver. IGF test isn't actually reliable especially while on a cycle. You're gonna have to send a vial off to analyzer.
do you have IGF results on blacktops and are you running any steroids compounds besides TRT ?

 

[VariableInterest]

Doctor is my mom. She's an endocrinologist but was on vacation, just got back. Really disappointed in my levels... same levels as I got from 4iu Godtropin. 213 or 223 something low like that. She told me on the phone. I'll scan and post the results when I have them in hand.

It is very odd because my dad at 2iu godtropin scored 400+ and at 4iu I scored low 200s. The same thing here happened. I don't know if it's because I weigh 230 lb or because I'm on nolvadex or what? I have all the sides that you get from growth hormone such as increased water retention, facial bloating, carpal tunnel syndrome, extremely fast nail and hair growth, deep deep sleeping. I'm very confused about this, The Next Step will be to send a vial off to analyzer. As of right now I do not recommend this source based on my numbers.

What source did you use?

 

[Rockclimber]

since you got close to the same score from godtropin and your father got great score from the same kit then it has something to do with your body/liver. IGF test isn't actually reliable especially while on a cycle. You're gonna have to send a vial off to analyzer.
do you have IGF results on blacktops and are you running any steroids compounds besides TRT ?

Never used blacktops.
I was on 750mg Test 350mg tren for 4 weeks cutting at the time of bloods. I've heard tren can mess with igf also. I'm back on TRT now and will be until I get back from Italy in 7 weeks.

Can someone send analyzer over here or point me in his Direction so I can send a vial off before I leave the states? Thanks

 

[daylight driller]

Never used blacktops.
I was on 750mg Test 350mg tren for 4 weeks cutting at the time of bloods. I've heard tren can mess with igf also. I'm back on TRT now and will be until I get back from Italy in 7 weeks.

Can someone send analyzer over here or point me in his Direction so I can send a vial off before I leave the states? Thanks

Pm him @Analyzer

 

[Rockclimber]

Pm him @Analyzer

Thanks brother, I've contacted him and will be sending it out soon.

 

[Roco Bama]

Never used blacktops.
I was on 750mg Test 350mg tren for 4 weeks cutting at the time of bloods. I've heard tren can mess with igf also. I'm back on TRT now and will be until I get back from Italy in 7 weeks.

Can someone send analyzer over here or point me in his Direction so I can send a vial off before I leave the states? Thanks

not only tren can affect igf results. some people who were running other compounds also reported poor igf levels.

 

[Roco Bama]

I recommend everyone who wants to test HGH from Alibaba sources to go with HPLC testing (via analyzer) rather than igf bloods as igf can be affected by many factors

 

[Rockclimber]

I recommend everyone who wants to test HGH from Alibaba sources to go with HPLC testing (via analyzer) rather than igf bloods as igf can be affected by many factors

I definitely agree. When I first started out on the Alibaba Journey I said I was going to test side effects first, igf second and analyzer third if I got that far. Looks like I got all the way to analyzer which means we found some hopefully legitimate stuff on there. I was afraid I would get to the first stage and not even have side effects because it was bunk.

Edit. Looks like another Godtropin thread has started on meso where someone is talking about having to take 10 units a day to maintain 400 plus levels. Sounds like he's got issues converting GH to igf in the liver like I do or Godtropin is still rubbish.

 

[BBQ Chicken]

I took 2 IU of my Alibaba hgh last night and just took 4 IU tonight a little bit ago (my schedule is opposite of most). The 2 IU was the first I've tried any of mine and really the first I've ever used hgh. I didn't feel any sides last night, but I did sleep much better than I have in a long time. I'm assuming that could be some sort of placebo effect. No red welt or anything on either injection so I'm at least happy about that. I'll see what happens in the upcoming week(s).

 

[fodsod]

Doctor is my mom. She's an endocrinologist but was on vacation, just got back. Really disappointed in my levels... same levels as I got from 4iu Godtropin. 213 or 223 something low like that. She told me on the phone. I'll scan and post the results when I have them in hand.

It is very odd because my dad at 2iu godtropin scored 400+ and at 4iu I scored low 200s. The same thing here happened. I don't know if it's because I weigh 230 lb or because I'm on nolvadex or what? I have all the sides that you get from growth hormone such as increased water retention, facial bloating, carpal tunnel syndrome, extremely fast nail and hair growth, deep deep sleeping. I'm very confused about this, The Next Step will be to send a vial off to analyzer. As of right now I do not recommend this source based on my numbers.

Well join the slightly disappointed in my IGF number club. LOL.

Did you have pre-GH bloods drawn or know what your normal levels are typically? How long were you running the Alibaba GH prior to testing?

What was your daily dose prior to testing?

I'd be interested to see what number you'd get if you doubled your current dose just to see if your IGF increased accordingly or if your response really is blunted in some way.

Or maybe have your Dad run the Alibaba stuff to see what his response is. There are so many variables to consider.

Personally, I just settled on under dosed with mine. I'll be re-testing my IGF again this week with the only change being an estimated 3 uis of Alibaba GH at night (instead of split am/pm) and I added 2 ius of Greys (based on them being 8 ius) in the morning to see if I can get my IGF to equal what I would normally see at 5 ius or so ED.

If I can get the number I'm thinking then it just confirms that regardless of what the Alibaba GH is dosed at my IGF response is the equivalent of them being dosed at 6ius per vial.

I did the same thing with the Grey tops and my response was the equivalent of them being dosed at approximately 8 ius per vial. That's just me though. Although I've been able to replicate the response several times now which is all that really matter to me.

 

[fodsod]

I took 2 IU of my Alibaba hgh last night and just took 4 IU tonight a little bit ago (my schedule is opposite of most). The 2 IU was the first I've tried any of mine and really the first I've ever used hgh. I didn't feel any sides last night, but I did sleep much better than I have in a long time. I'm assuming that could be some sort of placebo effect. No red welt or anything on either injection so I'm at least happy about that. I'll see what happens in the upcoming week(s).

GH does have an immediate effect but the sides typically take a while to show up. So the sleep results could be legit. Keep us posted.

As far as I know, no one has reported red welts or the vials not being vacuum sealed properly. My Alibaba GH has a better vacuum than the Greys I'm using right now. Go figure.

 

[BBQ Chicken]

GH does have an immediate effect but the sides typically take a while to show up. So the sleep results could be legit. Keep us posted.

As far as I know, no one has reported red welts or the vials not being vacuum sealed properly. My Alibaba GH has a better vacuum than the Greys I'm using right now. Go figure.

I get carpal tunnel every once in awhile so I'm not sure if this is directly related to my injection earlier, but I'm definitely feeling it in my hands now about an hour and 50 minutes after injecting 4 IU. It feels more constant and intense than usual.. Not unbearable, just more than normal. I know side effects shouldn't really be used as measurements on if things are legit or not based on previous posts, but I'm thinking my supply may not be so bad. Will continue to update anything significant.

 

[Recreational muscle]

Just to verify @Rockclimber, you used greenway, correct?

@BBQ Chicken, who did you use?

 

[DragoT]

Doctor is my mom. She's an endocrinologist but was on vacation, just got back. Really disappointed in my levels... same levels as I got from 4iu Godtropin. 213 or 223 something low like that. She told me on the phone. I'll scan and post the results when I have them in hand.

It is very odd because my dad at 2iu godtropin scored 400+ and at 4iu I scored low 200s. The same thing here happened. I don't know if it's because I weigh 230 lb or because I'm on nolvadex or what? I have all the sides that you get from growth hormone such as increased water retention, facial bloating, carpal tunnel syndrome, extremely fast nail and hair growth, deep deep sleeping. I'm very confused about this, The Next Step will be to send a vial off to analyzer. As of right now I do not recommend this source based on my numbers.

Interesting development. Have you considered this?

http://www.lbm-mg.com/lbm-docs/docsweb/01%20Endo%20Manual.pdf


Human GH is now a routine replacement therapy in GH-deficient patients. Most of the GH used is biosynthetically produced with recombinant DNA technology and is purified to minimize antigenicity. Nonetheless, some patients will develop autoantibodies; these may not be neutralizing and may not inhibit the growth response. About 5% of patients will produce neutralizing antibodies; thus, all patients with documented GH deficiency who do
not respond as expected to GH therapy should receive GH antibody testing.

 

[Samael]

Just to verify @Rockclimber, you used greenway, correct?

@BBQ Chicken, who did you use?

I believe he mentioned in his previous post that he used
Wuhan Senwayer Century Chemical Co., Ltd

 

[Roco Bama]

Well join the slightly disappointed in my IGF number club. LOL.

Did you have pre-GH bloods drawn or know what your normal levels are typically? How long were you running the Alibaba GH prior to testing?

What was your daily dose prior to testing?

I'd be interested to see what number you'd get if you doubled your current dose just to see if your IGF increased accordingly or if your response really is blunted in some way.

Or maybe have your Dad run the Alibaba stuff to see what his response is. There are so many variables to consider.

Personally, I just settled on under dosed with mine. I'll be re-testing my IGF again this week with the only change being an estimated 3 uis of Alibaba GH at night (instead of split am/pm) and I added 2 ius of Greys (based on them being 8 ius) in the morning to see if I can get my IGF to equal what I would normally see at 5 ius or so ED.

If I can get the number I'm thinking then it just confirms that regardless of what the Alibaba GH is dosed at my IGF response is the equivalent of them being dosed at 6ius per vial.

I did the same thing with the Grey tops and my response was the equivalent of them being dosed at approximately 8 ius per vial. That's just me though. Although I've been able to replicate the response several times now which is all that really matter to me.

That would complicate things further. Let's first wait for the HPLC results. If the GH is legit then after his liver recovers from the blast he just finished, he can pull IGF bloods while not taking any compounds other than TRT.

 

[DragoT]

All studies (where of course Pharma GH is used and the subjects are GH deficient) show 70-80 ng/dL IGF-1 raise per IU.

By using exogenous GH, as @ChestRockwell already pointed, we induce "deficiency" in terms of suppression of body's own production (especially when used in am/pm protocol). This is exactly what I have observed - 166 on 2IU, 320 on 4IU, 244 on 3IU. And then comes the wife's case and trows this theory out of the window - 320 on 3IU from the same vial. I am on TRT (100mg test c/week), she on Progesterone 100mg/day. Nothing else...

Go figure...

 

[fodsod]

That would complicate things further. Let's first wait for the HPLC results. If the GH is legit then after his liver recovers from the blast he just finished, he can pull IGF bloods while not taking any compounds other than TRT.

I get what you're saying but I think you and I are looking at it from different perspectives. You simply want to know what it's dosed at and the quality but that doesn't change anything. I agree the HPLC testing is warranted to verify what it is and the dosing so moving forward the seller can either be used or discarded but.....

I'm looking at it as he has a bunch of GH that he needs to use effectively and at his current dose he only has a 223 IGF level. So his body's response to the dose he's taking under his normal operating conditions (same as when his Dad posted higher than him) is just that 223. A HPLC test won't change that.

Plus, when would he ever realistically just use GH and not take AAS as you suggested he do when things clear up then test again? He needs to be able to get the results he needs in his current state because that's how he's going to be using it moving forward.

So in my mind the thing he can control is trying to see how much he needs to use to get an effective dose and see that reflected in his IGF numbers. If he doubles his dose and his IGF doesn't change after a week or two then it's most likely just him. If he does see an increase then he will at least know how much he needs to use to get results or IGF number he feels reflects that.

In the end, all any of us care about is the results from the GH as long as it's actually GH and decently priced. It's no different than AAS. If he got under dosed gear he's just take more to get the results he needs. It's always about the results.

 

[Rockclimber]

Well join the slightly disappointed in my IGF number club. LOL.

Did you have pre-GH bloods drawn or know what your normal levels are typically? How long were you running the Alibaba GH prior to testing?

What was your daily dose prior to testing?

I'd be interested to see what number you'd get if you doubled your current dose just to see if your IGF increased accordingly or if your response really is blunted in some way.

Or maybe have your Dad run the Alibaba stuff to see what his response is. There are so many variables to consider.

Personally, I just settled on under dosed with mine. I'll be re-testing my IGF again this week with the only change being an estimated 3 uis of Alibaba GH at night (instead of split am/pm) and I added 2 ius of Greys (based on them being 8 ius) in the morning to see if I can get my IGF to equal what I would normally see at 5 ius or so ED.

If I can get the number I'm thinking then it just confirms that regardless of what the Alibaba GH is dosed at my IGF response is the equivalent of them being dosed at 6ius per vial.

I did the same thing with the Grey tops and my response was the equivalent of them being dosed at approximately 8 ius per vial. That's just me though. Although I've been able to replicate the response several times now which is all that really matter to me.

I had my baseline igf tested over a year ago and it was right at 200.. I think 209... I'll have to dig it up.

I was on 5iu in the am, had been running only 30 days at 5 days on 2 days off.

I have bumped the dose up to 7iu to see how I feel, just started the 7iu this morning.

I would love to have my dad run these as well but my mom has banned him. She says that I am playing God and it's not right. She says that humans are supposed to age as they get older and that he has perfect levels for a 68 year old. I said "that's exactly why he should bump his igf up to 280" she disagrees and she is the endocrinologist so I don't have anything to counter with. She has him on TRT but it's only 400ng/dl so pretty low.

I'm going to do as you are and treat these as underdosed and just run a higher number until analyzer comes back with the actual numbers for me.

 

[Rockclimber]

@Roco Bama
I remember you were getting almost 600 on the godtropin brand treating them like 24iu taking I think 8iu a day? Are you still running that or have you run out? That's a good score and relatively inexpensive too.