Im 61 (right there with ya) and added Deca to my TRT after talking with my doc...its good to have a an open minded doc. Deca made my joints very, very happy!
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SilverViking
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Damn I embarrassed my test came back at 208. I’m 49 and ran a couple bro science cycles in my late 20’s and no bloods done. Feel like I responded well didn’t really see any sides. Haven’t ran anyI do not think anybody here, no matter how conservative, would recommend that you keep your testosterone down at 251. That is very low (like in the toilet low) and will obviously get in the way of your progress on building muscle.
since. About to order another set of bloods since that was only total test. Want to see what the full panel tells.
malfeasance
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No reason to be embarrassed, but, wow, which lab has a normal range of 163 to 517 ng/dL ???Damn I embarrassed my test came back at 208. I’m 49 and ran a couple bro science cycles in my late 20’s and no bloods done. Feel like I responded well didn’t really see any sides. Haven’t ran any
That should be more like 300-1000
You would feel a night and day difference at 208 even just going up to 450-500.
At 49, there is no reason whatsoever to be living with 208
I would rather recommend doing natural supplement instead. Safety wise. I mean, that's what I would personnaly do if I was in your situation.
I would make some stack based on tongkat, shilajit, tribulis, cistanche a/o low dose yohimbine for exemple. I had pretty satisfying results with tongkat and cistanche only.
I would make some stack based on tongkat, shilajit, tribulis, cistanche a/o low dose yohimbine for exemple. I had pretty satisfying results with tongkat and cistanche only.
Nandrolone ? I wonder if that would help with my knees, at 63 knee joints are always sore.
SilverViking
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I believe it’s called eveylywell. 208 sucks that’s why I’m lurking around trying to absorb all the info I can. And a majority of the people on here give good info along with the articles.
It helped mine...dont ache near as bad
Not bad advice. But on a steroid forum?
malfeasance
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Well, eveylywell sucks. Talk about moving the goal posts.
YatesIsBased
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They just keep moving that "normal" range lower and lower.
Hate to have American men have too much testosterone...they might start feeling good about being male.
AlexDavis43
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Shhh.. the adults are talking
New lab work just arrived, before TRT my T was 251, now at 1391 at the end of a 7 day cycle, too high ? I'm also taking some GH peptides . Thoughts ??
Your lab results are in.
Your total testosterone is 1391, and your estrogen level is 45.0, with an E/T ratio of 3.2%, which falls within the normal range.
Based on these results, you may discontinue the aromatase inhibitor (AI) at this time. Please reduce your dosage to 0.8cc per week.
Your lab results are in.
Your total testosterone is 1391, and your estrogen level is 45.0, with an E/T ratio of 3.2%, which falls within the normal range.
Based on these results, you may discontinue the aromatase inhibitor (AI) at this time. Please reduce your dosage to 0.8cc per week.
YatesIsBased
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Disclaimer: I'm retarded, don't know shit but like to interact. Wait for one of the smart guys to respond.
That being said:
Did you already answer the following?
What's the TRT dose per week?
7-day cycle?? How long have you been on this TRT dose?
What is your AI and what dose? I don't understand why they would totally discontinue the AI if it's keeping your E2 down to 45.
Most MDs won't like to see it that high and will likely tell you that you'll die. lol. It seems even your TRT clinic wants you to reduce it as well.
1391 is considered supraphysiological and out of the typical high range, (1000) but not really that high. IMO
However, I think dropping it to between 700-1000 would certainly be sufficient to reach your stated goals.
I don't believe the total Test number matters as much as how you feel and how it's affecting your other blood work. You have to get regular blood work and check how it's affecting not only your E2, but your cholesterol, liver, and kidneys.
That being said:
Did you already answer the following?
What's the TRT dose per week?
7-day cycle?? How long have you been on this TRT dose?
What is your AI and what dose? I don't understand why they would totally discontinue the AI if it's keeping your E2 down to 45.
Most MDs won't like to see it that high and will likely tell you that you'll die. lol. It seems even your TRT clinic wants you to reduce it as well.
1391 is considered supraphysiological and out of the typical high range, (1000) but not really that high. IMO
However, I think dropping it to between 700-1000 would certainly be sufficient to reach your stated goals.
I don't believe the total Test number matters as much as how you feel and how it's affecting your other blood work. You have to get regular blood work and check how it's affecting not only your E2, but your cholesterol, liver, and kidneys.
Well to be honest with you when I was on a lower dose and in that 700 range I felt Invincible now I feel like s*** they recommended I go up on the dose. I'm on a 7-Day cycle meaning I take an injection once every 7 days I started out at 8 CC's 9 cc's and now I'm at 10 cc's. I just haven't felt comfortable and feel like my blood pressure is high which it is running a little high I'm at 144/80 sometimes it spikes a little bit higher 150 over 85. They recommend it that I go down to 8 CC's a week. I'm 2 and 10 mg of Cialis a day to help with blood flow it hasn't really helped with my manhood as a matter of fact that's now become a performance issue.
malfeasance
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The lab I use is 250-1100.
malfeasance
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8ccs of testosterone?
I am not following at all.
What are you injecting 10 cc or 8 cc of?
Oh, wait, ok, they say .8cc per week, not 8.
So if you are using Testosterone Cypionate (are you?) dosed at 200mg/mL (is it?), then you were injecting 200mg a week, and they are telling you to lower it to 160mg a week.
7 days is not enough time.
You should be testing like after 2 months, not 7 days.
If I had a suggestion to make, it would be to do more like 120 mg a week, split in two injections of 60mg a week each. That is 0.3 cc twice a week, 3.5 days apart, like Monday morning and Thursday evening, or whatever works for your schedule, and do not do any aromatase inhibitor.
Then see how things go for a longer period of time.
That blood pressure is concerning.
A lower dose of testosterone and doing cardio will help.
What was your blood pressure prior to starting any testosterone?
malfeasance
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Oh, wait, I got lost.
So 300mg of test a week, maybe 1.5cc, and that is the 7 day cycle to which you refer?
And you feel like shit and your blood pressure is up and you are having performance issues in the bedroom?
Dude, just try 120mg per week. Get your diet in order. Do regular cardio, getting that heart rate up.
Then see you you feel in a couple of months.
My prediction is you will feel awesome.
Coming from a low test level of 251 and changing things by:
(1) injecting 120mg a week
is going to make you feel like a young man again,
especially if
(2) you are doing regular cardio and
(3) get your diet in order and
(4) do weight training.
Roger that and I am following your orders included in my 5-day workout of weight lifting is a 6 day 25 minute a day cardio getting the heart rate up to 140. Eating is pretty much cleaned up it was never really bad.
So to be clear this test was taken after 3 months.
Performance issues in the bedroom started after I went up about 2 weeks ago in the dosage of testosterone C.
Blood pressure 3 weeks ago was 125 over 80 so the increase in testosterone I'm now at 144/85.
So to be clear this test was taken after 3 months.
Performance issues in the bedroom started after I went up about 2 weeks ago in the dosage of testosterone C.
Blood pressure 3 weeks ago was 125 over 80 so the increase in testosterone I'm now at 144/85.
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