Anavar - How long to kick in

[Perrin Aybara]

I was strong as hell on var as well. I just don’t understand the lethargy from it. It seems like I’m not the only one that has issues with this. I love Masterone, and it’s actually a staple mine being a dht derivative. I wish I could justify buying var again.. I want too, but I just can’t pull the trigger again.

I've never had lethargy from var. I think you and @Worf might be the only ones I've heard that from. I get lethargy horribly from anadrol though. Like can't sit down for five minutes without falling asleep even on 50mg. Weird how the same drugs affect people so differently.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

I've hit all my best PRs on Anavar starting at 40mg and never higher than 75mg. Strength is great on it, never really noticed any size increase or fat burning effect. A little more noticeably vascular on it even when not that lean.

Have you tried masterone for strength? Been kicking around the idea of adding it because it's a dht and those seem work well.

 

[Dthcore]

DAMN IT! More reasons not to use VAR! I have old injuries i want to prevent from resurfacing!! Strength will only make it happen faster! xD
Fuck it ill try Tbol and hope to God it works and puts on decent size without losing my hair xD

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Have you tried masterone for strength? Been kicking around the idea of adding it because it's a dht and those seem work well.

I've only tried it combined with tren so far. Been meaning to run it with just test at some point to see how it works. Got a few bottles in the stash for that reason. I just finished a blast yesterday actually though, so it'll be awhile.

 

[Blange89]

I've only tried it combined with tren so far. Been meaning to run it with just test at some point to see how it works. Got a few bottles in the stash for that reason. I just finished a blast yesterday actually though, so it'll be awhile.

I've been wanting to try this as well, bit I think I would need a low dose of deca with it. I'm on my first run without nandrolone in a long time and my whole body aches right now.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I've been wanting to try this as well, bit I think I would need a low dose of deca with it. I'm on my first run without nandrolone in a long time and my whole body aches right now.

Have you tried MK 677? I get that same lubing effect from it. Just watch your blood sugar.

 

[Blange89]

Have you tried MK 677? I get that same lubing effect from it. Just watch your blood sugar.

Ok thanks. I have ran MK677 before, but I was always running deca so I guess I didn't realize that it was helping.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I've never had lethargy from var. I think you and @Worf might be the only ones I've heard that from. I get lethargy horribly from anadrol though. Like can't sit down for five minutes without falling asleep even on 50mg. Weird how the same drugs affect people so differently.

Count me in on the lethargy. For me it was subtle. Workouts didn't seem affected by it, but my performance at work took a sharp drop that others began to notice.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

DAMN IT! More reasons not to use VAR! I have old injuries i want to prevent from resurfacing!! Strength will only make it happen faster! xD
Fuck it ill try Tbol and hope to God it works and puts on decent size without losing my hair xD

Tbol was good enough for the East German Olympic team of the 1970's.

Granted they gave large doses of Tbol to women and it kind of fucked some of them up due to long term use, but man did they kick the shit out of the competition.

 

[Dthcore]

Tbol was good enough for the East German Olympic team of the 1970's.

Granted they gave large doses of Tbol to women and it kind of fucked some of them up due to long term use, but man did they kick the shit out of the competition.

What’s tbol normally dosed at? 50-75mg?

 

[cochino]

What’s tbol normally dosed at? 50-75mg?

I've ran it at 40-50mg with good results.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

What’s tbol normally dosed at? 50-75mg?

i would personally start at 40 mg and run with that until (if) i felt it necessary to bump it up. 10 mg increments thereafter.

 

[Mdrock98]

Count me in on the lethargy. For me it was subtle. Workouts didn't seem affected by it, but my performance at work took a sharp drop that others began to notice.

exactly how I felt. Tbol was nice at 60 - to 80mg a day.

 

[Worf]

I feel like trash on all orals except Dbol an halo. Dbol gives me terrible back pumps even with taurine and fucks with my lower body training. Halo in 10-20 mg doses for PR’s and big lifts is the only oral I’ll touch. If I want something quick I’ll get out the test P or tren A and shoot ED

 

[CompoundLifts31]

exactly how I felt. Tbol was nice at 60 - to 80mg a day.

I never felt much until 80-100mgs.
Good pumps and a little endurance.
Nothing worth jumping though hoops for.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Tbol was good enough for the East German Olympic team of the 1970's.

Granted they gave large doses of Tbol to women and it kind of fucked some of them up due to long term use, but man did they kick the shit out of the competition.

I've always wondered what dosage they took since reading that a long time ago.

 

[Konrev]

I've always wondered what dosage they took since reading that a long time ago.

Im German and tried to look through some old archives but coudnt find anything specific daily dose,the pills came in 5mg and they apperantly took "a few a day" so I am guessing in the 10-20mg rage, keep in mind they did not use testosterone injections. Only real number I could find was 2720mg, which Detlef Gerstenberg took over his whole Olympa preperation for the 1980 summer olympics. Detlef Gerstenberg - Wikipedia

 

[Konrev]

Ok nevermind I was kinda wrong, I found a very good source.
"Medical application" per Jenapharm: Men - 20mg for the first two to three days, then 5-10mg for a total duration of 2 to no more than 4 weeks

Children: 2-5mg for the first days, then 1-3mg for a total duration of 2 to no more than 4 weeks

Doping application: It was found the best duration was 14 days.
Women: 20mg for the first days, then 5mg for the rest of the time.
Men: no less than 20mg for the first days, then ne less than 10mg for the rest of the time.
For general muscle gain: Men: 5-15mg ED, Women: 3-10mg ED
For competition prep: Men: 20mg ED, Women 15mg ED
for comp prep Mestanolon was also used for men, with more Mestanolon and less T-bol closer to comp.

After Ending of the 2-4 week turinabol cycle Test P was used EoD 25mg for guys and 10mg for girls to offset supression. They also used hCG.

 

[Konrev]

And it came in blue 5mg pills for adult use and pink 1mg pills for use in children, starting age 13. What I found weird was that the use in children was actually the "medical" use and there was no mention for dosage for doping purpos in children.

They also found less than 10mg ED for guys not to be sufficant in elevating muscle-protein synthesis

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Ok nevermind I was kinda wrong, I found a very good source.
"Medical application" per Jenapharm: Men - 20mg for the first two to three days, then 5-10mg for a total duration of 2 to no more than 4 weeks

Children: 2-5mg for the first days, then 1-3mg for a total duration of 2 to no more than 4 weeks

Doping application: It was found the best duration was 14 days.
Women: 20mg for the first days, then 5mg for the rest of the time.
Men: no less than 20mg for the first days, then ne less than 10mg for the rest of the time.
For general muscle gain: Men: 5-15mg ED, Women: 3-10mg ED
For competition prep: Men: 20mg ED, Women 15mg ED
for comp prep Mestanolon was also used for men, with more Mestanolon and less T-bol closer to comp.

After Ending of the 2-4 week turinabol cycle Test P was used EoD 25mg for guys and 10mg for girls to offset supression. They also used hCG.

And it came in blue 5mg pills for adult use and pink 1mg pills for use in children, starting age 13. What I found weird was that the use in children was actually the "medical" use and there was no mention for dosage for doping purpos in children.

They also found less than 10mg ED for guys not to be sufficant in elevating muscle-protein synthesis

Damn bro...
I thought it would be quite a bit higher than that!
Great read. Thanks for the info!