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Anavar vs Primo vs masteron

poolshockguy

poolshockguy

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What is the healthy choice with good muscle building effects. I know these are all cutting products but everything can be used to build.

Anavar or
Primo or masteron.


I've used anavar but the whole process threw kidney has me on fence about it. Kidney isn't as forgivable as liver is.
 
the healty choice would be to just run test and train hard and eat a ton of food and do your cardio. if your determined to add something id say its preference between mast and primo. personally i love primo got great results off of it and im on week 9 so i got 11 weeks left. and im doing 400 mg a week.
 
Seriously, in the world of AAS, there isn't a "healthy choice", outside of maybe true TRT levels of test. To think so is the same as saying taking different AAS is healthier than not taking anything. The second you start to take something the risks associated with every AAS makes it potentially unhealthy for you.
 
You could run a 2:1 Test Primo ratio, both during cycle and TRT (in different amount ofc). During cycle u could add 10-20mg anavar pw. This is reasonably healthy. On TRT/HRT u could cut the primo if u dont aromatize much.
 
cherm said:
I've used anavar but the whole process threw kidney has me on fence about it
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What is your concern specifically? If worried spend the money on cystatin-c test.

There are no safe AAS and they are not healthy in the context of a eugonadal otherwise "healthy" individual who does not suffer from sarcopenia / wasting / various autoimmune and dermatologic conditions looking to treat body dysmorphia / trauma / etc.

With the oxandrolone and even injectable AAS at abusive dosing you should be concerned about cumulative cardiovascular effects / endothelial and temporary mental impairment. The young should stay away given their undeveloped brains and interference with HPTA. The sweet spot seems to be late 20s to early 40s where you have some semblance of developed brain yet not too old that everything goes to hell quickly (BP, HR, HRV, etc) with AAS abuse. So dip your toes and get out unless you get paid to take them or come to terms with significant longevity hit caused by chronic abuse.

In my mind similar to cigarettes. And of course most people who smoke don't get cancer but do suffer other issues.
 
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I have taken anavar and I'm on TRT 200mg.
I know anavar is rougher on kidneys than liver specifically since it's a oral bur my question is if primo or masteron would be more wise to build lean tissue without direct kidney effects. I know they all are not ideal but there are "safer" steroids that can be used. Like anavar is definitely less toxic than drol.
 
cherm said:
Like anavar is definitely less toxic than drol.
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Define toxic. I just ran 50 mg/day (6 weeks) oxandrolone on top of current cruise 200 mg/week test cyp.

Liver enzymes elevated (understandable). No sign of acute kidney issues. Creatinine and BUN fine (in context with weight training and diet) and based on my relevant experience if I pull cystatin C right now my eGFR would be above 100.

My lipid particle counts are atrocious. Atrocious. Oxandrolone quite "toxic" at 50 mg/day based on my relevant experience with my blood work.

The term toxicity needs to be properly defined in context with end organ site of damage. I am waiting for my crp result. I will share full before and after panels showing the impact of "mild" oxandrolone after typical "cycle". This will be follow up to previous example I did but this time with apo A1 and B along with hs-crp.

The other nice piece to this will be I am pulling TT by LCMS and FT by ED with and without the oxandrolone (after proper washout) so we can put this silly "lowering SHBG frees more more T" crap to bed. At least that is my goal but last time I used Vermeulen calculated FT to demonstrate.
 
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Yeah anavar is hard on lipids . I've been monitoring mine. Next draw In few weeks. I'm taking in more epa and dha to help
 
BoloYang2023 said:
the healty choice would be to just run test and train hard and eat a ton of food and do your cardio. if your determined to add something id say its preference between mast and primo. personally i love primo got great results off of it and im on week 9 so i got 11 weeks left. and im doing 400 mg a week.
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How much test are you running ?
 
None of these are "cutting products". You can use them successfully for different goals at different dosages. There are already in depth threads on mast vs. primo. I don't think var is great to compare as it's an oral.

They're all great for different reasons and the only AAS I use besides test.
 
UncleBuns said:
None of these are "cutting products". You can use them successfully for different goals at different dosages. There are already in depth threads on mast vs. primo. I don't think var is great to compare as it's an oral.

They're all great for different reasons and the only AAS I use besides test.
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I've been reading on them. I been on 20mg anavar and 200 test. Anavar sublingual.
 
20mg var is my sweet spot. Minimal cramping and fatigue sides. Great recovery and aesthetics. Above 20 I look awesome but the sides aren't worth it for me at least.

Mast and primo are awesome too. I would suggest trying each individually on top of your trt to get an idea of their effects. Most get along great with both but some guys don't react well to one or the other for who knows what reason. To much mast makes me irritable and short fused though.
 
UncleBuns said:
20mg var is my sweet spot. Minimal cramping and fatigue sides. Great recovery and aesthetics. Above 20 I look awesome but the sides aren't worth it for me at least.

Mast and primo are awesome too. I would suggest trying each individually on top of your trt to get an idea of their effects. Most get along great with both but some guys don't react well to one or the other for who knows what reason. To much mast makes me irritable and short fused though.
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I want primo but idk about pinning every other day. That would get old real quick.
 
I like mast p, i can run T little higher with less sides from aromatization. And i feel and look better even on low dose like 100-150mgs a week.
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Long answer..

I always run mast with my TRT when im traning.
Im out of mast p only got mast e, so doing primo right now.

Anavar i run one summer, i dont use orals anymore, my body dont like them, i get a feeling of stress on the body. I feel sick.

I can take one pwo here and there. And Winstrol for sex..

I would stick to injectables,my prefrence is mast P, if you like orals mabey pin som dball or what ever pwo.
 
ATWAR said:
I like mast p, i can run T little higher with less sides from aromatization. And i feel and look better even on low dose like 100-150mgs a week.
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Long answer..

I always run mast with my TRT when im traning.
Im out of mast p only got mast e, so doing primo right now.

Anavar i run one summer, i dont use orals anymore, my body dont like them, i get a feeling of stress on the body. I feel sick.

I can take one pwo here and there. And Winstrol for sex..

I would stick to injectables,my prefrence is mast P, if you like orals mabey pin som dball or what ever pwo.
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What difference do you find between masteron e and p in terms of effect?
 
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