Just want to say this. Ive seen people happy at 4900 on labs gear here at meso. Thats all.Testosterone Serum = 9,000+ once had one over 10,000.
It's hard to base serum as a cutoff since you never know how much a customer is actually taking. i.e. TRT patient taking my product low dose and submitting tests to get free gear.
Since testosterone is dirt cheap to produce I'd be willing to make a cutoff of anything below 6,000.
Obviously testing time would need to be in relation to the ester.