Anti-Aging skincare routine?

[buck]

I just put data out there so people can have perspective to make the best decision they can for them selves. If you don't like the info you are more then free to ignore it. I try to look at all sides before i make my choices in life. But i support you doing what ever you please for your self. Dermatologists will say how sunlight causes skin cancer. Yet studies also show that people that sunbath can live longer. The whole picture can look different then 1 snap shoot in time.

Here's something unexpected: Sunbathers live longer - Harvard Health

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www.health.harvard.edu

Holy crap I get ur handle buck now lol.
Not very agreeable are we.



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[Benf15harp]

I’d avoid any chemicals for skincare or perceived prevention. Ie:sunscreen. All that shit causes cancer. Beyond skincare It’s best to avoid as many chemicals as possible. Air fresheners for example are Pure poison.

 

[laclark89]

I got it, I don’t dislike it. Always 2 sides of a coin if we all agreed on everything shit would be boring, wouldn’t it? I like to hear what old timers like ur self have to say, weather I agree or not. It’s entertaining at least.

Suns not all bad obviously life wouldn’t exist on earth without it. vitamin sunshine Not to mention It makes vitamin D from cholesterol in your skin when it’s rays hit it.

I just put data out there so people can have perspective to make the best decision they can for them selves. If you don't like the info you are more than free to ignore it. I try to look at all sides before i make my choices in life. But i support you doing what ever you please for your self. Dermatologists will say how sunlight causes skin cancer. Yet studies also show that people that sunbath can live longer. The whole picture can look different than 1 snap shoot in time.

Here's something unexpected: Sunbathers live longer - Harvard Health

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www.health.harvard.edu

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[laclark89]

WHYYYYYYY?

A gyno told me "they are there for a reason. Leave it alone".
It's true, BTW.
As you wrote about the body having mechanisms to protect itself, that is one example.

its a American thing I guess.
Comfort, aesthetics, less odor.

They trap oil sweat and bacteria, plus it’s super humid where I work and I sweat my ass off in my jeans and that stuff festers lol,
I know it’s tmi but I had this a few times, first defense is shave and antibacterial soap.


But I’m sure we do have them for a reason as u mentioned.

 

[Ateam2023]

plus pubic hair is just gross and it feels so much better being bare imo ,,,,, no critters can hide lmao

 

[BigDadd7]

WHYYYYYYY?

A gyno told me "they are there for a reason. Leave it alone".
It's true, BTW.
As you wrote about the body having mechanisms to protect itself, that is one example.

Why? Because my girl puts them in her mouth a lot more frequently when they're shaved.

 

[Ateam2023]

Why? Because my girl puts them in her mouth a lot more frequently when they're shaved.

that too !

 

[Franscesco_Schettino_1960]

Retinoids, oral and topical will make by far the most significant over a lifetime.
Lots of skin health depends on how much or little inflammation is present, the rest is easily achievable with simple creams.
If you have large sebaceous glands you will need a year or two on Accutane to fully reset. Quite a few in communities like this are actually indefinitely on Accutane.

 

[glpfun]

AM: wash face, moisturize, sunscreen
PM: wash face, azelaic acid, tretinoin, moisturize
I also use salicylic acid sometimes to exfoliate but won’t use tret that night. I also use SA for keratosis pilaris on my upper arms.

 

[DugPrime]

AM: wash face, moisturize, sunscreen
PM: wash face, azelaic acid, tretinoin, moisturize
I also use salicylic acid sometimes to exfoliate but won’t use tret that night. I also use SA for keratosis pilaris on my upper arms.

This, and add sunscreen, low-dose Botox 3-4 times a year, mesotherapy (with fillers) twice a month, and weeky cosmetic microneedling.

 

[Ateam2023]

Retinoids, oral and topical will make by far the most significant over a lifetime.
Lots of skin health depends on how much or little inflammation is present, the rest is easily achievable with simple creams.
If you have large sebaceous glands you will need a year or two on Accutane to fully reset. Quite a few in communities like this are actually indefinitely on Accutane.

a year or TWO? , if you do the correct protocol outlined by @Ghoul you'll see those pores shrink in a " timely manner" taking Accutane for two years is not the best for "obvious reasons ",,,,

 

[Ghoul]

a year or TWO? , if you do the correct protocol outlined by @Ghoul you'll see those pores shrink in a " timely manner" taking Accutane for two years is not the best for "obvious reasons ",,,,

There was a stage, twice actually, when the pores on my nose shrunk so much, which really means the sebaceous glands shrunk, that it was completely covered in sebaceous filaments every morning. The pic isn't my nose, but they were like this, but extended out further, like hairs, and felt like sandpaper.

It occurred at high doses, first around. 120mg then again at 160mg day. I stayed at each level until it stopped, about a week.

I don't know for certain, but I suspect the low dose. long term protocol wouldn't have ever managed to accomplish that incredible clearing out. Also, the torso is the hardest area for accutane to exert its effects, and again, it wasn't until the highest daily doses that the impact was seen on my shoulders.

You can see it "moving around" different areas as you go through the course, as each section starts with a worsening to one degree or another. For me it was slight, but it started with my forehead, then face, then stomach (where I never had acne but developed a little in this short lived "purge" stage), etc. At the highest doses months in it finally had a major impact of my back, then finally shoulders. Along the way it hit the nose hard with above described effect. It was surreal. Could not make out a single pore on my nose, and covered in a forest of those filaments.

Most accutane research focuses on the face, with the body receiving much less attention, but it's acknowledged higher doses are generally required to "reach" some areas.

 

[Franscesco_Schettino_1960]

There was a stage, twice actually, when the pores on my nose shrunk so much, which really means the sebaceous glands shrunk, that it was completely covered in sebaceous filaments every morning. The pic isn't my nose, but they were like this, but extended out further, like hairs, and felt like sandpaper.

It occurred at high doses, first around. 120mg then again at 160mg day. I stayed at each level until it stopped, about a week.

I don't know for certain, but I suspect the low dose. long term protocol wouldn't have ever managed to accomplish that incredible clearing out. Also, the torso is the hardest area for accutane to exert its effects, and again, it wasn't until the highest daily doses that the impact was seen on my shoulders.

You can see it "moving around" different areas as you go through the course, as each section starts with a worsening to one degree or another. For me it was slight, but it started with my forehead, then face, then stomach (where I never had acne but developed a little in this short lived "purge" stage), etc. At the highest doses months in it finally had a major impact of my back, then finally shoulders. Along the way it hit the nose hard with above described effect. It was surreal. Could not make out a single pore on my nose, and covered in a forest of those filaments.

Most accutane research focuses on the face, with the body receiving much less attention, but it's acknowledged higher doses are generally required to "reach" some areas.


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you ran 120-160mg of Accutane for how long? that's a good dose lol

I can tell you from a lot of experience, 20-40-80mg dose long term is tolerable, maybe not so much for roid users but there are people out there on that drug indefinitely for cosmetic purposes.

Accutane is prob the strongest Anti aging drug of all time, even ahead of stuff like Rapamycin and Dutasteride.
Unlikely we will get anything better in this lifetime.

 

[RekTest]

Low dose accutane will improve your skin significantly, and reduce the visibility of your acne scars.

Will this work on very old (10yr) acne scars?

I took accutane in my teens because I had very bad back ance, like covered and I have alot of scars from that, that look horrid.

I know Ive seen instagram people get like skin lasered (supremepatty) and totally transform their skin from acne scared to perfection, I always thought of getting it done…
I dont know what it is actually called, when I get time Ill look for the post he made on him getting it done.

 

[Ghoul]

Will this work on very old (10yr) acne scars?

I took accutane in my teens because I had very bad back ance, like covered and I have alot of scars from that, that look horrid.

I know Ive seen instagram people get like skin lasered (supremepatty) and totally transform their skin from acne scared to perfection, I always thought of getting it done…
I dont know what it is actually called, when I get time Ill look for the post he made on him getting it done.

This is the first clinical study into isotretinoin's effect on acne scars.

TLDR: It reduced scar size, thickness, and improved skin elasticity.

The Effects of Oral Isotretinoin on Atrophic Acne Scars Measured by Shear-wave Elastography: An Observational, Single-center Study - PMC

Although the effects of oral isotretinoin (OI) on acne vulgaris and preventing further acne scars have been well-documented, the specific impact of OI alone on pre-existing atrophic acne scars (AAS) remains unclear. No clinical study has objectively ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Ghoul]

you ran 120-160mg of Accutane for how long? that's a good dose lol

I can tell you from a lot of experience, 20-40-80mg dose long term is tolerable, maybe not so much for roid users but there are people out there on that drug indefinitely for cosmetic purposes.

Accutane is prob the strongest Anti aging drug of all time, even ahead of stuff like Rapamycin and Dutasteride.
Unlikely we will get anything better in this lifetime.

I started on 10mg, experienced sides which quickly eased off, then titrated to 20mg (10mg x 2), sides came back, then eased off, then I'd titrate up again. The effects were so good, and the sides so manageable, I decided to go to where the studies say the most certainty of never having a relapse lies...220mg/kg cumulative, and ended up at 160mg/day, for two weeks, then went 180mg for about 5 days, but couldn't handle it. Sides didn't ease off, and went back to 160mg, then dropped to 120mg as I approached the 20,000mg cumulative
total goal. I wanted to make sure the course lasted until 2 months after full clearance of acne was achieved, as that's also associated with the lowest rate of relapse. (well, technically 51 days past full clearance.)

 

[glpfun]

I started on 10mg, experienced sides which quickly eased off, then titrated to 20mg (10mg x 2), sides came back, then eased off, then I'd titrate up again. The effects were so good, and the sides so manageable, I decided to go to where the studies say the most certainty of never having a relapse lies...220mg/kg cumulative, and ended up at 160mg/day, for two weeks, then went 180mg for about 5 days, but couldn't handle it. Sides didn't ease off, and went back to 160mg, then dropped to 120mg as I approached the 20,000mg cumulative
total goal. I wanted to make sure the course lasted until 2 months after full clearance of acne was achieved, as that's also associated with the lowest rate of relapse. (well, technically 51 days past full clearance.)

Did you try splitting up the dose throughout the day to see if it helped with sides?

 

[Ghoul]

Did you try splitting up the dose throughout the day to see if it helped with sides?

It's a must. As soon as I went to 20mg/day it was 2 split doses. Morning and night, take. right after meals (this is very important). I'm sure it made a HUGE difference in sides.

 

[Excel.exe]

I started on 10mg, experienced sides which quickly eased off, then titrated to 20mg (10mg x 2), sides came back, then eased off, then I'd titrate up again. The effects were so good, and the sides so manageable, I decided to go to where the studies say the most certainty of never having a relapse lies...220mg/kg cumulative, and ended up at 160mg/day, for two weeks, then went 180mg for about 5 days, but couldn't handle it. Sides didn't ease off, and went back to 160mg, then dropped to 120mg as I approached the 20,000mg cumulative
total goal. I wanted to make sure the course lasted until 2 months after full clearance of acne was achieved, as that's also associated with the lowest rate of relapse. (well, technically 51 days past full clearance.)

have you written any guide on what dose someone would need to use based off their weight and for how long?

 

[Ricky93]

Retinoids. It increases the speed at which your skin cells turnover. Works for wrinkles, dark spots, scars, etc. Go for a water based serum instead of oil-based as we men tend to sweat more and have greasy skin.