Anti-catabolic supps used on pct

[Gbaby12]

Its that time again, Im midway through my pct and I have to start wearing hoodies to the gym to hide gains that I am losing. My question, aside from food, what can I take while on pct/after to prevent my muscles from being eaten up. I've been looking into sarms and peptides. I Can't afford growth hormone.
Last cycle I ran clen after and had success retaining mass and leaning out at a huge calorie deficit, but after recent research online I've discovered clean anti parabolic properties are most likely bull.
All I have currently is to start loading creatine, and I'm eating like a pig, more so then on cycle, in hopes I can bulk/bloat up and retain size.

 

[Docd187123]

Instead of asking what to take to stop losing muscle on PCT, you should be asking why are you losing muscle on PCT.

 

[Gbaby12]

Instead of asking what to take to stop losing muscle on PCT, you should be asking why are you losing muscle on PCT.

Everyone loses muscle on PCT it's just a matter of how much you lose, spiked cortisol, you have almost zero nitrogen retention in your muscles, muscles will be consumed no matter what. Why I'm asking what can I take to help prevent this and retain more if my weight.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

Its that time again, Im midway through my pct and I have to start wearing hoodies to the gym to hide gains that I am losing. My question, aside from food, what can I take while on pct/after to prevent my muscles from being eaten up. I've been looking into sarms and peptides. I Can't afford growth hormone.
Last cycle I ran clen after and had success retaining mass and leaning out at a huge calorie deficit, but after recent research online I've discovered clean anti parabolic properties are most likely bull.
All I have currently is to start loading creatine, and I'm eating like a pig, more so then on cycle, in hopes I can bulk/bloat up and retain size.

20mg clen for 2 weeks after pct and low dose FAST ACTING insulin AFTER your high protein/LOW FAT dinner. Insulin + fat= no bueno

 

[Docd187123]

Everyone loses muscle on PCT it's just a matter of how much you lose, spiked cortisol, you have almost zero nitrogen retention in your muscles, muscles will be consumed no matter what. Why I'm asking what can I take to help prevent this and retain more if my weight.

No, not everybody loses muscle on PCT. that's a ridiculous thought. PCT has higher than natural levels of testosterone usually...

Either your training or nutrition are off if you're losing muscle like that during PCT.

 

[Docd187123]

20mg clen for 2 weeks after pct and low dose FAST ACTING insulin AFTER your high protein/LOW FAT dinner. Insulin + fat= no bueno

Shut up moron.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

Instead of asking what to take to stop losing muscle on PCT, you should be asking why are you losing muscle on PCT.

Please stop being hypocrite. You are ridiculing yourself swimming against the current of facts. When your hormones/steroids clear your system you will be put on a catabolic state and THATS FACT.
He is clearly asking what he can take to hold as much muscle as he can without suppressing hpta further. He is NOT asking for your clown hypocrite OPINION.

Stop being a clown and stfu if you don't have a clue where your head is at

 

[EcpertRealistic]

Clen and insulin IN MODERATION is my preferred bridge compounds. Clen will help me hold on to the gains while dropping some of the fat that really matters. The extra boost in insulin will fill them guns up WITHOUT suppressing the hpta. Creatine etc etc is a plus

 

[Docd187123]

Please stop being hypocrite. You are ridiculing yourself swimming against the current of facts. When your hormones/steroids clear your system you will be put on a catabolic state and THATS FACT.
He is clearly asking what he can take to hold as much muscle as he can without suppressing hpta further. He is NOT asking for your clown hypocrite OPINION.

Stop being a clown and stfu if you don't have a clue where your head is at

Clen and insulin IN MODERATION is my preferred bridge compounds. Clen will help me hold on to the gains while dropping some of the fat that really matters. The extra boost in insulin will fill them guns up WITHOUT suppressing the hpta. Creatine etc etc is a plus

You're an idiot through and through. You're not catabolic when hormones leave your system. I could get a dog to piss in a cup and that cup would be more intelligent than you.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

You're an idiot through and through. You're not catabolic when hormones leave your system. I could get a dog to piss in a cup and that cup would be more intelligent than you.

Stop ridiculing yourself seriously. Or one day you will wake up from that trip and be ashamed of yourself.

You can't argue against facts.
Why don't you stfu? You defend yourself better with your mouth shut

 

[EcpertRealistic]

gains that I am losing.

That's why I don't go above 205. I hate how hard is to keep the gains on that level. And having to deal with the blood pressure and excess weight year round suck. I'm happy with my keepable 205. That way nobody will think I contracted the bubonic plague or some sort of terminal illness when I lose the weight

 

[Wunderpus]

That's why I don't go above 205. I hate how hard is to keep the gains on that level. And having to deal with the blood pressure and excess weight year round suck. I'm happy with my keepable 205. That way nobody will think I contracted the bubonic plague or some sort of terminal illness when I lose the weight

I'd love to see a pic of your physique.

 

[Wunderpus]

Clen and insulin IN MODERATION is my preferred bridge compounds. Clen will help me hold on to the gains while dropping some of the fat that really matters. The extra boost in insulin will fill them guns up WITHOUT suppressing the hpta. Creatine etc etc is a plus

WHAT?!

Insulin is almost entirely useless (exogenous insulin) without the use of exogenous GH.... But, you wouldn't know that.

 

[Wunderpus]

No, not everybody loses muscle on PCT. that's a ridiculous thought. PCT has higher than natural levels of testosterone usually...

Either your training or nutrition are off if you're losing muscle like that during PCT.

People lose some glycogen and water retention and think their muscles are WASTING away off cycle... It's not as easy as people think it is to "dissolve" skeletal muscle tissue.

 

[Wunderpus]

20mg clen for 2 weeks after pct and low dose FAST ACTING insulin AFTER your high protein/LOW FAT dinner. Insulin + fat= no bueno

- 20mg clen = most likely dead

- why no fat with insulin, genius? Also, LOL at taking insulin pre bed, good luck.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

WHAT?!

Insulin is almost entirely useless (exogenous insulin) without the use of exogenous GH.... But, you wouldn't know that.

Wrong to the max. Insulin by itself can help retain gains and EVEN increase muscle mass.

I did not said pre bed. You are the one saying that.

 

[Wunderpus]

Wrong to the max. Insulin by itself can help retain gains and EVEN increase muscle mass.

I did not said pre bed. You are the one saying that.

You said after dinner, how many more meals come after dinner before bed?

Explain to me how insulin helps "retain" gains? Why insulin AFTER a meal? It's all stupid, you know that, right? You're just a giant fucking retard who spews non-sense everywhere... "high test is bad!" "insulin after dinner is good!" "take 20MGs of clen!"

This is why you will never go above 205 pounds... Not because you don't want to, but because you can't. You have convinced yourself that is what you "want" because you can achieve nothing greater.

Still waiting on pics of your build. I'd love to see what your stupid and reckless drug abuse has built.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

You said after dinner, how many more meals come after dinner before bed?

Explain to me how insulin helps "retain" gains? Why insulin AFTER a meal? It's all stupid, you know that, right? You're just a giant fucking retard who spews non-sense everywhere... "high test is bad!" "insulin after dinner is good!" "take 20MGs of clen!"

This is why you will never go above 205 pounds... Not because you don't want to, but because you can't. You have convinced yourself that is what you "want" because you can achieve nothing greater.

Still waiting on pics of your build. I'd love to see what your stupid and reckless drug abuse has built.

Lol, I can be 300 pounds shredded tomorrow if I want. Not soft like you.
But I don't see the necessity on putting that stress in my body. You do whatever you want with your body but don't try to push me to run a Mr. Olympia cycle if THAT'S NOT my goal. Are you gay or something? what's your fixation with men?

 

[Wunderpus]

Lol, I can be 300 pounds shredded tomorrow if I want. Not soft like you.
But I don't see the necessity on putting that stress in my body. You do whatever you want with your body but don't try to push me to run a Mr. Olympia cycle if THAT'S NOT my goal. Are you gay or something? what's your fixation with men?

You can be 300 pounds and shredded tomorrow? Hmm, seems like you'd be pretty close to that if that were true.... But, we know it's not.

I've never once told you to run an "Olympia level cycle", as if you even know what that would look like...

Am I gay? No. Are you disappointed? No fixation with men particularly, just idiots like yourself who have nothing but lies and false claims to spread around the internet...

Oh, and uh, "soft like me"? Your move, cowboy:

 

[Docd187123]

Stop ridiculing yourself seriously. Or one day you will wake up from that trip and be ashamed of yourself.

You can't argue against facts.
Why don't you stfu? You defend yourself better with your mouth shut

So you wanted to prove the cup of dog piss has more intelligence than you? I mean, I already knew it but thanks for proving it.