Are you ok with Muslim refugees moving in next to you in the US?

US government, I was quoting cbs post.

I did realize that. and Im not sure how or why you didn't quote the whole post. but the first line reads "the obama administration appears to have taken away yet another terrorism-fighting tool away from u.s. law enforcement trying to screen syrian refugees." it seems policy makers are making it harder for law enforcement agencies to do their job by not allowing them to ask simple questions. both are part of the "us government". so again, who is aware? of what.
 
movie theaters and schools?
There has been shootings at schools and a movie theater by white Americans, America having a 70-83% Christian population I think it is fair to say that Christians are out of control with the shootings in America. Do you not find that fair to say?

I did realize that. and Im not sure how or why you didn't quote the whole post. but the first line reads "the obama administration appears to have taken away yet another terrorism-fighting tool away from u.s. law enforcement trying to screen syrian refugees." it seems policy makers are making it harder for law enforcement agencies to do their job by not allowing them to ask simple questions. both are part of the "us government". so again, who is aware? of what.
How I quoted a small portion of CBS post? By using the delete button on my keyboard. Why? Because my post was only concerning a small portion of CBS post.

Uhhhh, again, who is aware? The US government... Of what? That Religion and Terrorism doesn't correlate. That it makes you a biggot to think that Muslim = Terrorist.
 
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So if its the opposite Muslims are always the oppressors??? Really? 95% of the armed conflicts??? Wait look at those countries again my friend, most of those countries shown have had Western influence in them. Who caused all those rebellions in the middle east? Who supported the rebels?! That link you posted actually proves another one of my points, thank you. Violence follows islam now because many "muslims" leaders are corrupt and have been basically bribed. Cmon man are the Saudi leaders really Muslim? Was Saddam a good muslim? What about the idiot presidents of afghanistan? Haha where those morons muslim? Most middle eastern countries have corrupt governments which have been set up by others. Also, if you take a look at the map and wind it back to the 1920s-1940s Europe would be the hotspot. And most Europeans are Catholic/Christians but wait...Did any of those wars have to do with any of those religions? NO. Samething now, its just happening on their lands but it has nothing to do with Islam. A better question would be why do most those countries that are hotspots for violence contain the most amount of resources (oil,mining, etc).

How did Islam spread throughout the Arabian Peninsula?

How did Islam spread to Persia and Central Asia?

How did Islam spread to Egypt and Syria

How did Islam spread to Byzantium

How did Islam spread to Andalusia/Spain?

How did Islam spread to Africa?

The answer to all those questions is violent jihad. And if Suleiman's invasion of Europe hadn't been stopped at the gates of Vienna in 1529, and the Ottoman's again at the Battle of Vienna in 1683, and Europe had fallen to Islam, there would have been no Enlightenment, there would have been no Renaissance, and an Islamic Europe would have never gotten out of the Dark Ages.

Thankfully Europe didn't fall and civilization got its break. The Enlightenment allowed science and philosophy and art to flourish and Europe got strong. Strong enough that Europeans were able to drive the Islamic threat all the way back to the Middle East, and for the most part they've kept it suppressed there to this day.

But make no mistake: Islam hasn't gone away and it hasn't changed from the days when Muhammed was conquering and raping and pillaging and molesting 9-year-old girls, and it hasn't changed from the time of its violent expansion. Islam today is what Islam has always been: A violent supremacist ideology dedicated to the goal of world domination.

So yeah, there's some Western influence in the Islamic world today, and maybe if there was a hell of a lot more of it, we wouldn't have the barbarism we see today with the stonings and amputations, child marriage, the subjugation of women and female genital mutilation. Unfortunately, Europeans have short memories and they easily forget the horrors of the past; and now they're determined to invite Islam into the West with open arms.

Oh yea and if Islamaphobe is a phony term then so is Anti semitism (the word you yourself used an hour ago,Hypocrite) which is essentially the same word for Jews. Stop being so one sided. Why are you so prejudice? Whats with all the hate? How come you are being so hypocritical?

No, the parallel to anti-Semitic would be anti-Muslim. The parallel to Islamophobia would be Jew phobia.

Can you please give me
one example that i cant logically answer back to?

Doubtful as they would be contingent on your ability to use logic, and thus far, you've demonstrated no such skill.
 
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Its a tragic situation in Syria but why are they running? Im muslim myself and in Islam youre not suppose to be a coward and run away from someone who is kicking you out of your home unless theres no way to fight back. I dont get why they dont arm these Syrians to fight back or something like when the communists attacked afghanistan the Usa armed the afghans and the soviets withdrew. Youre telling me isis is more powerful than the soviets hahaha. I know they are being murdered severely but they have to fight back. I know that it also resulted in a lot of weapons falling into the wrong hands in afg but the decline of afghanistan was because of a shitty, corrupt government that couldnt decide on things fairly. And why isnt Saudi Arabia or neighboring muslim countries not letting these refugees stay there for a period of time until they can get Syria under control?! The "muslim" leaders in the middle east suck [emoji53]. Those neighboring countries should be ashamed for not helping. And i would be perfectly fine with talking and being around the Syrians that come here.
 
How did Islam spread throughout the Arabian Peninsula?

How did Islam spread to Persia and Central Asia?

How did Islam spread to Egypt and Syria

How did Islam spread to Byzantium

How did Islam spread to Andalusia/Spain?

How did Islam spread to Africa?

The answer to all those questions is violent jihad. And if Suleiman's invasion of Europe hadn't been stopped at the gates of Vienna in 1529, and the Ottoman's again at the Battle of Vienna in 1683, and Europe had fallen to Islam, there would have been no Enlightenment, there would have been no Renaissance, and an Islamic Europe would have never gotten out of the Dark Ages.

Thankfully Europe didn't fall and civilization got its break. The Enlightenment allowed science and philosophy and art to flourish and Europe got strong. Strong enough that Europeans were able to drive the Islamic threat all the way back to the Middle East, and for the most part they've kept it suppressed there to this day.

But make no mistake: Islam hasn't gone away and it hasn't changed from the days when Muhammed was conquering and raping and pillaging and molesting 9-year-old girls, and it hasn't changed from the time of its violent expansion. Islam today is what Islam has always been: A violent supremacist ideology dedicated to the goal of world domination.

So yeah, there's some Western influence in the Islamic world today, and maybe if there was a hell of a lot more of it, we wouldn't have the barbarism we see today with the stonings and amputations, child marriage, the subjugation of women and female genital mutilation. Unfortunately, Europeans have short memories and they easily forget the horrors of the past; and now they're determined to invite Islam into the West with open arms.



No, the parallel to anti-Semitic would be anti-Muslim. The parallel to Islamophobia would be Jew phobia.



Doubtful as they would be contingent on your ability to use logic, and thus far, you've demonstrated no such skill.

Youre sick, theres no point of arguing with you. Ive used logic and theres no point. You know whats right and wrong and you know that i made very good points you are just ignorant. You know the truth but in reality you just want to let your anger out on someone. You are so blind its amazing. The fact that you made a personal attack on Prophet Muhammad shows that you have blind hate and have never read the Quran or Hadiths. How about this, read the entire Quran english translation and a few hundred hadiths (english translation) then look at the time period each verse was said and the background of it then come back [emoji4]. You most likely wont because you source all your hate of Islam from a website and fox news [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. Read it yourself then formulate an opinion. Most critics of Islam have probably never even read an entire chapter of the Quran. Dont judge a book by its cover...Its like me claiming all Christians are bad without reading the bible or going to a sunday sermon lol. Either you read the entire thing and then formulate an opinion or stfu.
 
I dont get why they dont arm these Syrians to fight back or something like when the communists attacked afghanistan the Usa armed the afghans and the soviets withdrew.

I'm not sure if you are being serious or saying this facetiously considering in the other thread you used the 'western influence' and the west supporting 'rebellions' argument as being the main propellant of these problems in the M.E and elsewhere...now you're suggesting it's the solution?

Really? 95% of the armed conflicts??? Wait look at those countries again my friend, most of those countries shown have had Western influence in them.

Who supported the rebels?!
 
Youre sick, theres no point of arguing with you. Ive used logic and theres no point. You know whats right and wrong and you know that i made very good points you are just ignorant. You know the truth but in reality you just want to let your anger out on someone. You are so blind its amazing. The fact that you made a personal attack on Prophet Muhammad shows that you have blind hate and have never read the Quran or Hadiths.

He's your prophet, not mine, so save the sanctimonious bullshit for someone who cares. Nothing I said about Muhammed wasn't true. He raped, held slaves - including sex slaves, waged jihad, conquered and pillaged lands. And he married Aisha when she was 6-years-old, and consummated the marriage when she was 9-year-old. That's molestation by any definition, bub.

How about this, read the entire Quran english translation and a few hundred hadiths (english translation) then look at the time period each verse was said and the background of it then come back [emoji4].

I have, obviously you haven't.
 
He's your prophet, not mine, so save the sanctimonious bullshit for someone who cares. Nothing I said about Muhammed wasn't true. He raped, held slaves - including sex slaves, waged jihad, conquered and pillaged lands. And he married Aisha when she was 6-years-old, and consummated the marriage when she was 9-year-old. That's molestation by any definition, bub.



I have, obviously you haven't.

First of all about the marriage he had with Aisha, no one knows the exact age. Remember around 100,000 hadiths were fabricated, only a few thousand were actually correct. One says she was 9 the other says 18. Now in Islam it is true that once a person hits puberty and have matured they are considered an adult. Western standards for adult is 18 (opinion). They can change it to 13 if they wanted and i bet youd see guys that are 30 with 13 year old girls and thats how it sometimes worked everywhere back in the day. Mike Tyson at age 15 beat a 29yr old amateur boxer and at age 11 could bench 200lbs [emoji23]. I had a friend at age 11 with a beard mustache and he weighed 145lbs at around 5'7". The first day of school we thought he was the substitute teacher. At 11 years old he looked older than most 20 year olds. Im sure some of us heard about the kid with 3 college degrees at age 13, he goes to a college near me. Some mature quicker than others. And 18yr old girls in America (the gold diggers) haved dated guys in their 50s and older as well yet its still legal. And about the sex slaves theres actually no proof that Muhammad had any so idk where you got that from. Didnt president Lincoln have them? And many of the early presidents? Slavery existed all over the world and many rich people had sex slaves whether they be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu or any other religion. Slavery wasnt a good thing but it existed everywhere. Can you please give an example of when he pillaged lands?? It clearly states in hadiths by Muhammad to not pillage and destroy lands/crops and to not harm women and children during war. He never raped anyone can you show me multiple historic documents of it please? Are you pulling these things off another website?
 
I'm not sure if you are being serious or saying this facetiously considering in the other thread you used the 'western influence' and the west supporting 'rebellions' argument as being the main propellant of these problems in the M.E and elsewhere...now you're suggesting it's the solution?


These "rebels" are under REAL OPPRESSION. Egyptians werent being mass murdered by Gaddafi. Assad didnt cause the problems ISIS has caused. Saddam was a nut job who was put in power by the West because he opposed Iran and wanted Shias dead. The solution is to help the people WHO ACTUALLY NEED IT. You could have easily came up with that on your own but you only made this post because you hate me because I am muslim and i am defending islam.
 
And im not arguing about this anymore i dont have 8 hours to explain all these answers, you guys are grown adults and can come up with answers on your own through legitamite research through primary sources, even if i prove you wrong you will still be ignorant. When you die you can ask God these questions. Peace.
 
Egyptians werent being mass murdered by Gaddafi.

No shit....?
The solution is to help the people WHO ACTUALLY NEED IT.

You believe that western involvement is the cause of these problems yet propose that the west arming 'rebels' is the solution.

If you feel western influence is the primary cause or at least a catalyst of these conflicts, why do you propose more western involvement as a solution? I still don't understand who you are in favor of supporting at this point either. Syrian government? Putin has it covered then if you feel this is the solution. Are you proposing arming moderate rebel group/s to fight Assad's government and IS at the same time?

That kind of western involvement would just exacerbate these problems, would it not? You stated as much earlier...
 
No shit....?


You believe that western involvement is the cause of these problems yet propose that the west arming 'rebels' is the solution.

If you feel western influence is the primary cause or at least a catalyst of these conflicts, why do you propose more western involvement as a solution? I still don't understand who you are in favor of supporting at this point either. Syrian government? Putin has it covered then if you feel this is the solution. Are you proposing arming moderate rebel group/s to fight Assad's government and IS at the same time?

That kind of western involvement would just exacerbate these problems, would it not? You stated as much earlier...
This thread is serving a good purpose to see who the ignorant assholes are. :)
 
No shit....?


You believe that western involvement is the cause of these problems yet propose that the west arming 'rebels' is the solution.

If you feel western influence is the primary cause or at least a catalyst of these conflicts, why do you propose more western involvement as a solution? I still don't understand who you are in favor of supporting at this point either. Syrian government? Putin has it covered then if you feel this is the solution. Are you proposing arming moderate rebel group/s to fight Assad's government and IS at the same time?

That kind of western involvement would just exacerbate these problems, would it not? You stated as much earlier...

Western involvement was the problem because they go and, for the most part, back the wrong people up. They caused it they should fix it. They caused isis and the mass murders of these Syrians resulted so they should fix it. Again, you knew this is what i meant but you still brought it up just to make yourself sound smart. If they gave the right fucking people weapons then none of this shit woulda happened.
 
Western involvement was the problem because they go and, for the most part, back the wrong people up. They caused it they should fix it. They caused isis and the mass murders of these Syrians resulted so they should fix it. Again, you knew this is what i meant but you still brought it up just to make yourself sound smart. If they gave the right fucking people weapons then none of this shit woulda happened.

 


Thats a shitty argument. Stats stats stats. How many have died from these so called terror attacks vs how many have died from wars caused by other countries coming into the mid east. Women arent allowed to drive in saudi arabia but since their our allies and give us oil the govt keeps their mouths shut. And why does it matter what other people do in their country? Does everyone have to agree to what the USA says? In islam it is believed that pre marital sex is bad but is anyone coming to the united states and trying to rule over us for it? No. Have the Saudis told the americans to stop sinning and then they will sell them oil? NO. No ones forcing ideologies on us so why are we forcing it on others. And this guy lmaooo he says he gonna fight these so called muslims [emoji23], is he gonna go into combat himself? Or is he going to send young guys in to fight for him and risk their lives so he can have his goal accomplished. Also, women arent oppressed in Islam thats such a damn lie, islam gave women rights when they didnt have any back in the day. This guy made such a shitty argument lol.
 
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