If someone is looking to improve their build (not necessarily be a bodybuilder but just gain muscle and lose fat) what's the best bang for your buck on a scale of 1 to 10. The assumption is Diet & Exercise is a 10. Something like TRT may be a 9 and a few peptides may be a 6 or 7. This curiosity came from personal experience because I haven't seen a difference from using L Carnitine (2,000mg a day) injections for 2 months. It feels like a waste of money. So does a ton of these other supplements and money grabs by fitness influencers. I do take Creatine and give that a 5 also. I am beginning to feel like peptides may be a waste to with BPC being the exception.
MESO-Rx
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Assuming diet & exercise are a 10 what "extra's" provide the best ROI?
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Xplicit
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Best return on investment would be to stop watching fitness influencers.
All the information you could ever need is spread across a few online forums (Meso being one of them) from yearssss of experience. Start reading.
Gear and growth. That’s really it. Insulin if you’re REALLY advanced/need it to use more growth safely.
Peptides don’t compete, aside from injury recovery. Most supps are bullshit.
Peptides don’t compete, aside from injury recovery. Most supps are bullshit.
I am finding this to be true especially w l carnitine. It hasnt done shit. Thanks for your response
What gear?
Whatever can be used at the lowest doees with the least side effects for the most results and that varies person to person. But almost everybody underestimates what test, a bit of mast or primo, and diet/hard training can do.
Use that extra money to buy more food, grocery bill will increase with your growth.
No supplement sold by any company will beat steroids in muscle protein synthesis. So even a small dose over real trt will still beat creatine any given day imo.
Spaceman Spiff
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7 lbs in 7 days. it says so on the bottle
BoloYang2023
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lmfao i knew thats how you got so BUFF
The nostalgia here…god damn.
Back when we used to tell people we were on “dat dere cell tech”
AlwaysHungry
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I only spend my money on test and GH and quality protein.
Maybe some oral from time to time. And also have a stash of fire tren I don’t use it much anymore I will use it if I wanna look extra good for something and that’s no more than 200 maybe 300 tops for 5-6 weeks.
I’ve expiraments with various combinations and bases I tried last summer nandro only and was very good but not my preference.
Test GH high protein diet and the progressive overload happens automatically on all aspects.
Maybe some oral from time to time. And also have a stash of fire tren I don’t use it much anymore I will use it if I wanna look extra good for something and that’s no more than 200 maybe 300 tops for 5-6 weeks.
I’ve expiraments with various combinations and bases I tried last summer nandro only and was very good but not my preference.
Test GH high protein diet and the progressive overload happens automatically on all aspects.
Kangaroo_Jack3D
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Test, gh and primo ftw as far as my experiences have been.
That and a solid diet of steak n eggs potatoes an pussy.
That and a solid diet of steak n eggs potatoes an pussy.
Benf15harp
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high quality h20 imo
Canknucklehead
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Test
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Tren
Spaceman Spiff
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Juicedhead
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testosterone, gh, food, and cell tech.
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