Attempting to discontinue/pct after 20 months on trt

[The Terminator]

And my third one too, even though it's outside the sack

lol I forgot about your third testicle, well shit if it pops you’ll be down to a normal testicle count

 

[T-Bagger]

lol I forgot about your third testicle, well shit if it pops you’ll be down to a normal testicle count

Yeah, but the third is an outty and it’s small. It’s like you donated one of yours to me

 

[The Terminator]

Yeah, but the third is an outty and it’s small. It’s like you donated one of yours to me

Maybe you should inject the outer ball and hope it pops lol

 

[T-Bagger]

Maybe you should inject the outer ball and hope it pops lol

Lol, tried already

 

[The Terminator]

11 days since my last shot and I’m hornier than I was on Tren, and definitely more than I would be at peak levels after a trt shot (knock on wood lol). I guess it’s always possible the crash could come later, but I feel a stir in my ballz. I attribute that to the clomid and tamoxifen, figured since I’m doing an extended pct it couldn’t hurt taking them so early. 50mg of clomid and 10mg of tamoxifen.

I’m sure 99% of you don’t give a rats ass but their could be a lurker that cares, or maybe some jackhole like myself in the future might be in a similar position contemplating a similar path that might find this useful.

Prob woulda been better if I’d have made a better title tho

 

[master.on]

Been on trt for 1.667 years, unfortunately when I started I was uneducated and my dr either was as well or didn’t care so I wasn’t tested for LH/fsh prior to trt, just T, free T, shbg and psa. Been considering trying the power pct to see if I can recover satisfactory levels, even tho I was extremely low when I started on trt I was still on high dose meds that suppress T and wasn’t working out etc.

Anyway before undertaking this venture I wanted to see what the best way of testing whether it’s primary or secondary or more likely tertiary hypo without quitting cold turkey for 1-2 years. Would it be better to test with hCG or clomid, and about how long would I need to stop trt before trying? 1 week, 2 weeks? My trt is supposed to be 200mg bi-weekly but I do 100mg weekly, and I did a cycle that ended 2 weeks ago but that was test p and Tren a.

@T-Bagger or @Worf im sure you guys would have some info or know someone who does.

Get Testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH tests after a couple months off everything.

If LH/FSH is normal or better yet high normal, your testis are weak and the pituitary is making LH to try to get them back to work.

If your LH/FSH is low or low normal, the most likely cause is that something is still, shutting you down
the most likely cause is bridging, but undeclared ingredients in supplements or other drugs can cause this. So can excess phytoestrogens.

If injecting HCG increases Testosterone, then your testis are weak and may need low/moderate HCG doses for several months to become fully working again.
Check your Estradiol, and take AIs if needed as HCG can cause excess estrogen.

Stay away from high dose, short duration pct protocols.

 

[The Terminator]

Get Testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH tests after a couple months off everything.

If LH/FSH is normal or better yet high normal, your testis are weak and the pituitary is making LH to try to get them back to work.

If your LH/FSH is low or low normal, the most likely cause is that something is still, shutting you down
the most likely cause is bridging, but undeclared ingredients in supplements or other drugs can cause this. So can excess phytoestrogens.

If injecting HCG increases Testosterone, then your testis are weak and may need low/moderate HCG doses for several months to become fully working again.
Check your Estradiol, and take AIs if needed as HCG can cause excess estrogen.

Stay away from high dose, short duration pct protocols.

Your method of checking if the testicles function wouldn’t you have to go off and not using anything including serms since those may elevate LH/FSH levels, or do you mean check several months after the pct?

Anyway I was planning on a longer pct, a few months at least with low dose clomid. I’ve already been taking 50mg of clomid and I can feel things that roids diminish. Fairly certain prior to trt I was tertiary hypo..

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Yeah just test with hcg you’ll soon find out Americano puto

 

[The Terminator]

Yeah just test with hcg you’ll soon find out Americano puto

We don’t take shit from no Welshmen here lol, but yea I figured hCG would be a simpler and quicker to test with than clomid, but I’ve just been taking 50mg of clomid and 10mg of tamoxifen. I’ve done a few shots of hCG in the 15 days post trt but only like ~300iu, no blood test yet but feel fine.

 

[The Terminator]

Well at day 16 post trt (100mg/7days) and I’m horny and busting better loads, more volume/pressure, like I had a burst that shot out. Been holding off on busting one to see how much I can produce after a couple days. If even after my extended pct I cannot function I’m content on using clomid for mono-therapy, but I don’t have bb’ers expectations on T levels, I’d be beyond overjoyed with natty levels in the 400s.

Come on @T-Bagger you can at least feign some interest or give some token responses so I’m not talking to myself all the time lol

 

[T-Bagger]

Well at day 16 post trt (100mg/7days) and I’m horny and busting better loads, more volume/pressure, like I had a burst that shot out. Been holding off on busting one to see how much I can produce after a couple days. If even after my extended pct I cannot function I’m content on using clomid for mono-therapy, but I don’t have bb’ers expectations on T levels, I’d be beyond overjoyed with natty levels in the 400s.

Come on @T-Bagger you can at least feign some interest or give some token responses so I’m not talking to myself all the time lol

Wrong thread!!! Should be posting this in the jizz increase thread!

 

[The Terminator]

Wrong thread!!! Should be posting this in the jizz increase thread!

lol I did, and have been, I’ll be updating on my next ejeculation lol. Been out of lecithin since Thursday-Friday we’ll see what impact it had.

Tbh I shoulda picked a better title for this thread than the question that was in my mind when I created it as some asshole like me looking to come off trt woulda been more likely to find it, oh well too late now

 

[T-Bagger]

lol I did, and have been, I’ll be updating on my next ejeculation lol. Been out of lecithin since Thursday-Friday we’ll see what impact it had.

Tbh I shoulda picked a better title for this thread than the question that was in my mind when I created it as some asshole like me looking to come off trt woulda been more likely to find it, oh well too late now

I hate that you can’t edit or delete a thread once it’s posted, unless I’m too dumb to know how to do that.

 

[The Terminator]

I hate that you can’t edit or delete a thread once it’s posted, unless I’m too dumb to know how to do that.

Nah I don’t even think there’s a window like there is with posts, unless I too am to damaged in the head to know how lol. Maybe Millard could, not sure if it I should ask tho, like the title “Attempting to pct after 20 months of trt” would be better

I’m sure someone might find the experience useful, like I looked at a 10 year old thread about a guy pct’ing, he turned out to be a douche tho, wouldn’t share what the dr had him try, kept saying it was tailored to him and it might not work blah blah blah.

 

[T-Bagger]

Nah I don’t even think there’s a window like there is with posts, unless I too am to damaged in the head to know how lol. Maybe Millard could, not sure if it I should ask tho, like the title “Attempting to pct after 20 months of trt” would be better

I’m sure someone might find the experience useful, like I looked at a 10 year old thread about a guy pct’ing, he turned out to be a douche tho, wouldn’t share what the dr had him try, kept saying it was tailored to him and it might not work blah blah blah.

I posted something and immediately messaged the Millard and he ignored me like a fat kid ignores healthy food.

 

[The Terminator]

I posted something and immediately messaged the Millard and he ignored me like a fat kid ignores healthy food.

I guess you’re not one of the cool kids then, or it probably got buried in in sea of pm’s. I’ll try my luck by tagging him in the next post.

 

[The Terminator]

@Millard Baker is it possible to change the title of this thread to something more accurate? Only reason I care is maybe someone in a similar situation as myself looking to go off trt might find the experience useful and would be more likely to find this with an accurate title like:

“Attempting to discontinue/pct after 20 months on trt”

If not no biggie. Thanks in advance for your time,

 

[T-Bagger]

@Millard Baker is it possible to change the title of this thread to something more accurate? Only reason I care is maybe someone in a similar situation as myself looking to go off trt might find the experience useful and would be more likely to find this with an accurate title like:

“Attempting to discontinue/pct after 20 months on trt”

If not no biggie. Thanks in advance for your time,

Why don’t you leave the man alone?

 

[The Terminator]

@Millard Baker thank you sir!

 

[Millard]

@Millard Baker thank you sir!

You are welcome