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Attempting to discontinue/pct after 20 months on trt

T-Bagger said:
Thanks man, means hella lot to me :(
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Well you can borrow some of my childhood boner stories to boost your “coolness” like the time when I was in kindergarten and the teacher had us lined up single file and I couldn’t stop staring at the girl’s butt in front of me, not only did I have a raging boner, but an intense urge to bust a nut lol. This story will surely move you up my friend ;)

I guess if I had some congenital disorder like Klinefelters that caused low T I wouldn’t be getting raging boners at such a young age.
 
The Terminator said:
Well you can borrow some of my childhood boner stories to boost your “coolness” like the time when I was in kindergarten and the teacher had us lined up single file and I couldn’t stop staring at the girl’s butt in front of me, not only did I have a raging boner, but an intense urge to bust a nut lol. This story will surely move you up my friend ;)

I guess if I had some congenital disorder like Klinefelters that caused low T I wouldn’t be getting raging boners at such a young age.
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I was going to ask if you were exposed to porn at a young age.
 
T-Bagger said:
I was going to ask if you were exposed to porn at a young age.
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lol nah but my parents were kinda loose sometimes with the R rated movies so I prob saw tv/movie non-nude (maybe titty) simulated sex. Didn’t see legit porn till age ~11. Maybe I had mild precocious puberty or something lol
 
I’ve read taking an AI can be helpful in fertility and what not when you’re natty, but I think it’s more useful in the obese or those with a bad T:E ratio. Anyway I gave it a try, took 1/4-1/3 of an exemestane on Tuesday, then I made the poor decision to take the rest around the time of my last post. Still have libido but it’s harder to get a boner. I’m just gonna rely on serms from now on lol
 
Here’s a few studies/articles that will be helpful to anyone in a similar situation, especially if fertility is a concern. Whether you want to pct off completely, pct temporarily until you get your SO pregnant, or wish to continue trt/aas but wish to be fertile or improve your chances when the time comes these studies will be useful.

Recovery of spermatogenesis following testosterone replacement therapy or anabolic-androgenic steroid use


Indications for the use of human chorionic gonadotropic hormone for the management of infertility in hypogonadal men

Preserving fertility in the hypogonadal patient: an update
 
The Terminator said:
We don’t take shit from no Welshmen here lol, but yea I figured hCG would be a simpler and quicker to test with than clomid, but I’ve just been taking 50mg of clomid and 10mg of tamoxifen. I’ve done a few shots of hCG in the 15 days post trt but only like ~300iu, no blood test yet but feel fine.
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mo fuk I’m Celtic:mad:
 
Day 18, opened a box of Ovitrelle last night and mixed it up, only had 1ml of bac water left so had to use b12 and a tiny bit of sterile water. Anyway after a shot a feel better, took a cialis just for the hell of it but didn’t need it. I didn’t necessarily feel bad after taking a whole exemestane in a 36 hr period, still had libido, just took effort getting a boner and at the gym last night I was slightly weaker and got tired quicker compared to Tuesday, only did stairs on wed for an hr, 56 min to be precise. Anyway back to wanting to smell sweaty pussy and leave my seed in as many women as possible.

Hope my balls get bigger over time, not concerned with how they look but last measurements 6 months into trt sans hCG put me at between 10-11ml, i read a study that men below 10ml had below normal sperm count. All I care about is function not looks so if my balls remain around 11ml but function fine I’ll be happy.
 
The Terminator said:
Day 18, opened a box of Ovitrelle last night and mixed it up, only had 1ml of bac water left so had to use b12 and a tiny bit of sterile water. Anyway after a shot a feel better, took a cialis just for the hell of it but didn’t need it. I didn’t necessarily feel bad after taking a whole exemestane in a 36 hr period, still had libido, just took effort getting a boner and at the gym last night I was slightly weaker and got tired quicker compared to Tuesday, only did stairs on wed for an hr, 56 min to be precise. Anyway back to wanting to smell sweaty pussy and leave my seed in as many women as possible.

Hope my balls get bigger over time, not concerned with how they look but last measurements 6 months into trt sans hCG put me at between 10-11ml, i read a study that men below 10ml had below normal sperm count. All I care about is function not looks so if my balls remain around 11ml but function fine I’ll be happy.
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Did you use a orchidometer to measure the volume of your balls?
 
Iron Frenchie said:
Did you use a orchidometer to measure the volume of your balls?
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Nah measurements were from an ultrasound of my balls, used the L•W•H•0.71 formula to calculate volume, which is the best formula according to a pubmed study. Had an ultrasound before trt/aas gonna see if my dr can see if they measured. Saw on orchidometer for $85 on amazon or eBay, thought about buying it
 
Today is 3 weeks/day 21, well yesterday (Monday) was, still going well, but I’m still feeling a little lingering effect of the AI I tried, I was a bit weaker in the gym, like what I was benching 10-12 reps I was only able to do 8, coulda done 9 but didn’t wanna risk it and overall a meh time at the gym, but other than that I feel fine. I’m fairly certain it was the AI because I stupidly took another 1/4 piece..dumbass lol. Don’t take any AI’s on pct unless you absolutely need it.

Will probably get some blood tests soon just to see where I’m at thus far.
 
@TRT@40 you were on hCG mono-therapy for awhile, do you remember what your LH/FSH levels were? Curious to see if hCG suppresses them to untraceable levels like trt does or if there was still some that shows up. I know @Worf said his LH was around ~2 on mono-therapy.
 
The Terminator said:
Anyone at least know how long (for them) after their last shot of T that they start feeling like shit or feel a “crash?”

Considering either doing the power pct or switching over to either clomid, hCG or tamoxifen mono-therapy if my balls still work, which I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t, never had an injury and they’re not especially small, they were ~10.3-11ml 6-7 months into trt sans hCG using the L•W•H•0.71 formula which is the best for calculating testicular volume. If I try the mono-therapy I’d likely go with clomid, it’s cheap, closest to being natty and easier to discontinue compared to hCG which comes short in all 3 categories.
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About 2 weeks after last trt dose. YES you feel it, and your reminded why you started doing trt, lethargy,ed probs even bouts with depression.
 
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