Back at it again testing Opti

[Mighty-mouse]

You wouldn't wait for a few more weeks and test again to see where you are at and test again? I know that's asking a lot but just curious how quickly you will start to return to normal levels. What were your normal levels without GH?

mands

Yea I can do that I suppose. Let me check to see what my baseline is

 

[Mighty-mouse]

You wouldn't wait for a few more weeks and test again to see where you are at and test again? I know that's asking a lot but just curious how quickly you will start to return to normal levels. What were your normal levels without GH?

mands

5.0 T4 baseline
32 T3 uptake baseline

 

[mands]

5.0 T4 baseline
32 T3 uptake baseline

Cool. I know this last lab was slightly out of range of your baseline by .7 I'm thinking you will return to your baseline in 2-3 weeks.

mands

 

[Mighty-mouse]

Cool. I know this last lab was slightly out of range of your baseline by .7 I'm thinking you will return to your baseline in 2-3 weeks.

mands

Ok I will refrain from taking it and test in 3 weeks

 

[mands]

Ok I will refrain from taking it and test in 3 weeks

You the man.

mands

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Ok I will refrain from taking it and test in 3 weeks

Damn dude.

Such a great log with some great experience here.

Refraining from a drug to drop some knowledge?
Fantastic.

Thanks bro

 

[Mighty-mouse]

Damn dude.

Such a great log with some great experience here.

Refraining from a drug to drop some knowledge?
Fantastic.

Thanks bro

Mands is pretty knowledgable with this shit. Plus I am curious if it will get back to baseline as well.

Thanks man we all in this to gain all the knowledge we can

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Mands is pretty knowledgable with this shit. Plus I am curious if it will get back to baseline as well.

Thanks man we all in this to gain all the knowledge we can

For sure, Mands have dropped some knowledge on me a few times.

I've gone mostly by feels for my t4 intake while running GH
But I saw a definitive drop when I started GH.
I have to get back on running regular bloods.
Especially since I'm T4 dependant (Hypothyroidism)

I went from relatively normal... to low Normal upon upping running 4iu spilt AM and PM.

I'll be running bloods in a few weeks to see what changes have occurred by adding 25 additional mcg to my protocols.

Here is my last test (ignore the EXCESSIVELY high antibodies, I have a thyroid autoimmune disease)

I wish I had my baseline handy from before... I'll see if I can find it
after I get home from my night shift.

 

[Mighty-mouse]

For sure, Mands have dropped some knowledge on me a few times.

I've gone mostly by feels for my t4 intake while running GH
But I saw a definitive drop when I started GH.
I have to get back on running regular bloods.
Especially since I'm T4 dependant (Hypothyroidism)

I went from relatively normal... to low Normal upon upping running 4iu spilt AM and PM.

I'll be running bloods in a few weeks to see what changes have occurred by adding 25 additional mcg to my protocols.

Here is my last test (ignore the EXCESSIVELY high antibodies, I have a thyroid autoimmune disease)

I wish I had my baseline handy from before... I'll see if I can find it
after I get home from my night shift.

When your T4 get real low do you feel depressed? My wife has the same issue and man she gets real depressed and moody when she skips her pills. But she skips for days at a time.

Yes keep an eye out for that u want everything running good while on growth get the best bang for the buck so to speak. Also keep an eye on your liver enzymes. With the added growth your liver will work harder creating igf not sure how bad it is on the liver but I keep an eye on mine

 

[Silentlemon1011]

When your T4 get real low do you feel depressed? My wife has the same issue and man she gets real depressed and moody when she skips her pills. But she skips for days at a time.

Yes keep an eye out for that u want everything running good while on growth get the best bang for the buck so to speak. Also keep an eye on your liver enzymes. With the added growth your liver will work harder creating igf not sure how bad it is on the liver but I keep an eye on mine

Good advice!
C reactive protein wasnt too bad, my doc knows I run AAS and she tells me that's the number one factor.
Im still young, so my liver working a bit harder isnt rha worst thing..
I also never drink, even when off cycle.

I get very depressed when I dont run T4.
But it takes a few days to feel the effects of stopping my doses.

I also run T3, I feel it immediatly if I dont take my Tiromel.

It also takes me a week minimum to restore my Y4 levels from depression to normal.

BUT i also have low T for my 30s so its difficult to tell if it's my test or T4 levels causing my depression and lethargy.

I was thinking of conducting an experiment on my next cycle (starting this weekend)
Dropping T4 for a while to see if i ca..
A)increase my mass gains while lowering my maintenance caloric intake
And
B) seeing my low T causes more of an issue in terms of lethargy and depression than my thyroid does.

Will probably start a log once I have my 1 month.bloodwork in.

Also running Fareston throughout cycle to prevent HPTA shutdown.
While not running an AI (will be running Proviron as well)
To finally disprove all the newbies that feel like they have to crash estrogen during cycles lol

I'm a glutton for punishment and I can handle e2 up to 50s without feeling bad.

 

[Mighty-mouse]

Good advice!
C reactive protein wasnt too bad, my doc knows I run AAS and she tells me that's the number one factor.
Im still young, so my liver working a bit harder isnt rha worst thing..
I also never drink, even when off cycle.

I get very depressed when I dont run T4.
But it takes a few days to feel the effects of stopping my doses.

I also run T3, I feel it immediatly if I dont take my Tiromel.

It also takes me a week minimum to restore my Y4 levels from depression to normal.

BUT i also have low T for my 30s so its difficult to tell if it's my test or T4 levels causing my depression and lethargy.

I was thinking of conducting an experiment on my next cycle (starting this weekend)
Dropping T4 for a while to see if i ca..
A)increase my mass gains while lowering my maintenance caloric intake
And
B) seeing my low T causes more of an issue in terms of lethargy and depression than my thyroid does.

Will probably start a log once I have my 1 month.bloodwork in.

Also running Fareston throughout cycle to prevent HPTA shutdown.
While not running an AI (will be running Proviron as well)
To finally disprove all the newbies that feel like they have to crash estrogen during cycles lol

I'm a glutton for punishment and I can handle e2 up to 50s without feeling bad.

Hell yeah let me know I will tune in on the log!! I’m usually in the 80-90 on me e levels but since I switched to pharma 25mg asin they dropped to the 30’s

Also running provi year round at 25mg a day

Be careful messing with the thyroid you know it’s fundamental in our game.

I was also diagnosed with low t around 25 or so it was 130’s been on test ever since.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Hell yeah let me know I will tune in on the log!! I’m usually in the 80-90 on me e levels but since I switched to pharma 25mg asin they dropped to the 30’s

Also running provi year round at 25mg a day

Be careful messing with the thyroid you know it’s fundamental in our game.

I was also diagnosed with low t around 25 or so it was 130’s been on test ever since.

I love that Proviron.
Going to run 50mg when I get started this weekend (split am and PM)
Such a great helper, it's like salt on a steak really adds to the cycle in my opinion.

I'm actually "lucky" in some ways
Because of Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, I can completely fuck with my thyroid for the sake of research and experimentation, without ever being too concerned, its fucked anyways.

As for the T, how did you feel when you started and what's your TRT dosage?
Vs how long did it take to start feeling better?

 

[Mighty-mouse]

I love that Proviron.
Going to run 50mg when I get started this weekend (split am and PM)
Such a great helper, it's like salt on a steak really adds to the cycle in my opinion.

I'm actually "lucky" in some ways
Because of Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, I can completely fuck with my thyroid for the sake of research and experimentation, without ever being too concerned, its fucked anyways.

As for the T, how did you feel when you started and what's your TRT dosage?
Vs how long did it take to start feeling better?

My script is 200mg every 2 weeks but..... I been on 125mg every 3 days for a while now keeping bloods in the 1300-1400 range. That’s where I’m feeling great at of course.

About 5-6 weeks after I started trt I really started feeling a better well being all around the clock. From what I can remember. I do remember the depression and shit feeling while my test was low and man I don’t wish that on anybody. I fucked myself up at a young age messing with aas and prohormones I didn’t take the time or effort to research and learn.

But as long as I keep my health in check and supplementing I’m good as ever.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

My script is 200mg every 2 weeks but..... I been on 125mg every 3 days for a while now keeping bloods in the 1300-1400 range. That’s where I’m feeling great at of course.

About 5-6 weeks after I started trt I really started feeling a better well being all around the clock. From what I can remember. I do remember the depression and shit feeling while my test was low and man I don’t wish that on anybody. I fucked myself up at a young age messing with aas and prohormones I didn’t take the time or effort to research and learn.

But as long as I keep my health in check and supplementing I’m good as ever.

That's a decent size for TRT.

i was thinking of trying the same 250mg cruise to start off my cycle... just for 4 weeks to see how I respond.

I've never been on a cruise... and I've never run that low on a blast, so it will be a definite learning experience, will run it with Proviron and 30mg fareston daily to prevent shutdown (Wife and I will be having kids next year)

Thanks for the advice Mighty Mouse, you helped me make up my mind.

Appreciate it

 

[Catman156]

Mands is pretty knowledgable with this shit. Plus I am curious if it will get back to baseline as well.

Thanks man we all in this to gain all the knowledge we can

Yes. Such a great log. Appreciate all the effort you’re putting into this.

Cheers

 

[Mighty-mouse]

As stated I bumped down to 4iu a day still treating vial as 10iu.

4iu split daily

No T4 Meds

I did a charity strongman comp yesterday weighed in at 218.2 clothed placed 4th in under 220. That was my first time ever trying it. God damn I’m sore this morning forearms are killing me!

So I’m going to implement that type of workout 2 or 3 times a week to help with strength training.

My diet hasn’t been perfect but try to eat as clean as I can not sure the BF I’m at.

This pic is last night about 6 drinks in of vodka water lime! Before bed

Still 5’4” so optis DO NOT MAKE YOU GROW TALLER [emoji19]

 

[Mighty-mouse]

Ok today started some mast e I will run it at 1ml very 3 days with my 125mg if test so running now;
220mg mast e every 3 days
125mg test every 3 days
4iu of growth
25mg prov
25mg asin E4 days

Mast was tested by WM

I have never ran mast before so this is new to me.

Current pic today

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Ok today started some mast e I will run it at 1ml very 3 days with my 125mg if test so running now;
220mg mast e every 3 days
125mg test every 3 days
4iu of growth
25mg prov
25mg asin E4 days

Mast was tested by WM

I have never ran mast before so this is new to me.

Current pic today View attachment 119813View attachment 119812

Holy fucking calf size.

question for you.

You find that you get lots of estro sides?
Or you are a bad responder to Aromasin?

I would only run 6.25 Asin EOD for that.
Especially with Mast and Proviron (I'm on 50mg Provi ED)

I'm one month away from bloodwork, so any insight would be appreciated, maybe can help me dial in before that.

 

[Sworder]

Ok today started some mast e I will run it at 1ml very 3 days with my 125mg if test so running now;

Nice symmetry in your pics!

 

[Mighty-mouse]

Holy fucking calf size.

question for you.

You find that you get lots of estro sides?
Or you are a bad responder to Aromasin?

I would only run 6.25 Asin EOD for that.
Especially with Mast and Proviron (I'm on 50mg Provi ED)

I'm one month away from bloodwork, so any insight would be appreciated, maybe can help me dial in before that.

It seemed I was having a lot of bad estro side effects so that’s why I’m taking it every 4 days until next blood test. I will adjust from there. I’m trying to wait till after the 4th day so to pull blood work and from the 3rd day on pin to match up.