Bad PIP Test E, can I recook & fix it

[Jet Labs]

HB, new raws , never had this issue before

Hmmm talk to the supplier and see what he/she says. Keep us updated and for now just mix with test or something.

 

[Ryu82]

Just to bump this up for any additional results. The topic keeps popping up on a few boards.

 

[Oroku_Saki]

I tend to think that it's the enanthate ester to cause the trouble. I already had to toss 300g of Test-E because of that issue, it was unusable.
Short time ago i ordered some finished Tren-E from a source here, because i didn't have any raw left, and that also gave me pip.
Never had those problems bevore, i think the chinese changed something in the production process. Sucks bigtime.

 

[mr_32]

the recook of my tren e did fix the issue

 

[Oroku_Saki]

the recook of my tren e did fix the issue

You cooked your tren? That's not a good idea, it's pretty heat sensitive.

 

[mr_32]

You cooked your tren? That's not a good idea, it's pretty heat sensitive.

cooked not burnt to a crisp

 

[thelettert]

Just wanted to add my 2 cents, had issues with painful test e raws in the past, ordered new BA/BB, new raws, MCT oil (now brand) and heated the solution (250mg, 1/10 ) using a hot plate stirrer at 100 Celsius to 150 Celsius (measured using temp gun) for 45 minutes

the results are serious pain at injection site with a swollen knot starting 8 hours after the shot, I don’t use a lot of gear anymore... so I wanted to keep this stuff around for awhile... but there is no way I’m subjecting myself to this pain for next year or two.

I’m going to try one more time, with a lower concentration, different carrier oil, longer cook time and a longer needle (only had 5/8 inch needles on hand) and see if these raws are salvageable

anyone recommend a good carrier oil I can get off Amazon? Preferably cottonseed or gso

 

[Oroku_Saki]

Same here. I have 200g of TestE Raw laying around, which is practically unusable. I also tried to heat it, like mentioned in a couple of other threads, without success. Tried 100°C up to 150°C from 30min to 2h, nothing worked.
It always knots and causes pain for 4-5 days, no matter which carrier (tried GSO, Sesame and MCT), with or without solvent, pre-heated or not.

The last thing i'll try is chemical purification with recrystallization, if that doesn't work i'll toss it.

I'd say, safe your time and order some TestC like i did.

 

[thelettert]

Thanks bro, definitely saved me some time, you really ran down all the possible solutions, I’ll give cyp a go, gives me a chance to branch out into different esters. Sucks, test e was a staple for me.

 

[Skeeto]

Just to add to this thread - I too am getting some gnarly PIP from Test E that I ordered from our good old friend Symbiotics in summer of 2020. i knew about his floatergate issue but I had run his stuff before and had no issues (or floaters).

I would even say I was experiencing “flu-like” symptoms a couple of days after my first shot. I had a low grade fever for like a day and just generally felt quesy and uneasy. It went away after a couple of days and I chalked it up to maybe having too much testosterone in me or perhaps my body not ever having seen enanthate.

I started my cycle with 250mg sustanon for 5 weeks then switched over to 300mg test e. This is the first time I have ever tried test e in my life. I have only ever used test c and just recently sustanon.

I can deal with the PIP but just curious to know if the hormone is still as viable as test c? Or even other test e with no PIP. In other words - would I still gain the same muscle as non-pip enanthate?

 

[BobbySweeney]

Wonder if the color change has anything to do with the quality. I know Tren gets less potent w heat and darkens.

What did you just say about tren getting less potent with heat?
Talk to me. What is this based on [mention]Bloathog [/mention]

 

[Oroku_Saki]

I would even say I was experiencing “flu-like” symptoms a couple of days after my first shot. I had a low grade fever for like a day and just generally felt quesy and uneasy. It went away after a couple of days and I chalked it up to maybe having too much testosterone in me or perhaps my body not ever having seen enanthate.

Why would you consider pinning something that gave you fever and strong pip? Don't think that the hormone is less potent due to the pip, but there's obviously something wrong with the product so why risk it.

 

[Skeeto]

Why would you consider pinning something that gave you fever and strong pip? Don't think that the hormone is less potent due to the pip, but there's obviously something wrong with the product so why risk it.

Good point - but to be honest I wasn’t sure it was the hormones that gave me those symptoms....I had also partied pretty hard and drank much more than I do normally for two consecutive days and thought it could have very well have been that my immune defenses were down. Then I started reading up on test-e having issues from several labs.

You are right - smart thing to do would be to toss it - but I’m feeling ok now and now am curious as hell what the real cause is...prob not worth one last shot just to find out.

 

[Skeeto]

@janoshik Did you ever analyze the powder? What were your findings?

 

[janoshik]

@janoshik Did you ever analyze the powder? What were your findings?

I think I posted about it - I was unable to have any conclusive result

 

[yokusamu]

hi guys
did anybodys oil turn out like this, the raw test e i used caused some insane pip, i cooked the oil at 110 c for 30 min but i still got some terrible pip but i gradually increase the heat to 200c, i have injected the gear its been 72 hrs no pip but is it suppsoed to look like this or has the steroid lost potencty so bascialyl ive jsut injected filtered mct oil.

 

[All Nats McGee]

hi guys
did anybodys oil turn out like this, the raw test e i used caused some insane pip, i cooked the oil at 110 c for 30 min but i still got some terrible pip but i gradually increase the heat to 200c, i have injected the gear its been 72 hrs no pip but is it suppsoed to look like this or has the steroid lost potencty so bascialyl ive jsut injected filtered mct oil. View attachment 140748

Test e doesn’t need to be heated. Heating it that much could of effected it. That’s why I never put heat to test e and just let it dissolve. Never had pip from test e ever.

 

[yokusamu]

Test e doesn’t need to be heated. Heating it that much could of effected it. That’s why I never put heat to test e and just let it dissolve. Never had pip from test e ever.

ah ok thank you might need a new source for test e or just switch to test cyp like everyone else, one thing that did work for me was lowering the concetration to 150mg/ml which slightly reduced pip but not completly, still made it difficult to squat, i wonder how they are making the test e raws now compared to few years ago. got 200g of test e raw i hope somebody finds a solution that works and is willing to share it with the rest of the community. the prior soultion of heating the oil to 110c just simply did not work for me and that looks of it for a few others on this thread. they mentioned to heat the oild to eveaperate the carboilc acid but if im not mistaken carboilc acid has a boiling point of 181c so wouldnt 110c jsut be insuffiecent.

 

[All Nats McGee]

ah ok thank you might need a new source for test e or just switch to test cyp like everyone else, one thing that did work for me was lowering the concetration to 150mg/ml which slightly reduced pip but not completly, still made it difficult to squat, i wonder how they are making the test e raws now compared to few years ago. got 200g of test e raw i hope somebody finds a solution that works and is willing to share it with the rest of the community. the prior soultion of heating the oil to 110c just simply did not work for me and that looks of it for a few others on this thread. they mentioned to heat the oild to eveaperate the carboilc acid but if im not mistaken carboilc acid has a boiling point of 181c so wouldnt 110c jsut be insuffiecent.

Ive never had bad test e raws. I think it’s gone bad from boiling it for 30min which isnt needed. If you have more brew it without heat and try it. I bet even at 350mg it’ll be smooth.

 

[Jet Labs]

Ive never had bad test e raws. I think it’s gone bad from boiling it for 30min which isnt needed. If you have more brew it without heat and try it. I bet even at 350mg it’ll be smooth.

Lots of people including myself have gotten BRUTAL pip from test-e and a possible fix is baking the finished product in hopes of burning off the chemical that causes the bad pip. Some test-e raws are just god awful so NO that dude shouldn't try brewing it at 350mg/ml!