Imo it's nonsense. BA boiling point is 205 celsius, so there is no risk.
But imo you will degrade hormone faster when you heat powder than when you heat final product.
Anyway, tell us how it goes.
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Imo it's nonsense. BA boiling point is 205 celsius, so there is no risk.
But imo you will degrade hormone faster when you heat powder than when you heat final product.
Anyway, tell us how it goes.
I didn't know that, thanks for the info.
Oroku_Saki
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It doesn' t need to boil to vaporize. If you heat it long enough at flashpoint temperature, it'll be gone.
All Nats McGee
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0.78 cents a gram. Sounds like a big risk if you fuck it up.
See that's what I though. Good info.
I just made a experiment. Heated 3 vials at 150C oven for 60mins:
1. BA solo
2. BA & BB
3. BA & BB & MCT
1. It has condensed a little, but not vaporized
2. Same as 1st
3. Did not condensed and not vaporized.
All 3 vials didnt change colour, colour is changing only with hormone inside.
I also heated finish product enanthate at 150 for 60mins and second at 225C for 60mins. First get yellow colour, second get dark brown. On second also was visible oxidation, so probably hormone get degraded.
1. BA solo
2. BA & BB
3. BA & BB & MCT
1. It has condensed a little, but not vaporized
2. Same as 1st
3. Did not condensed and not vaporized.
All 3 vials didnt change colour, colour is changing only with hormone inside.
I also heated finish product enanthate at 150 for 60mins and second at 225C for 60mins. First get yellow colour, second get dark brown. On second also was visible oxidation, so probably hormone get degraded.
Well my experiment the other night failed as I broke my last filter so I just tossed it lol. New filters came in today so I have a 50ml batch of test-e In the oven right now at 150c and will stay in for 60minutes.
I brewed with mct oil, 1/10, but will be adding the BA before filtering. If this don't get rid of the PIP I'll guess I'll be ordering some test-cyp raws and tossing my test-e in the trash lol. I've never had problems with test-e causing PIP before, but whatever it's cyp for now on
I brewed with mct oil, 1/10, but will be adding the BA before filtering. If this don't get rid of the PIP I'll guess I'll be ordering some test-cyp raws and tossing my test-e in the trash lol. I've never had problems with test-e causing PIP before, but whatever it's cyp for now on
Here is the end result folks. Raw was melted in Pyrex, added BB then MCT oil, after that I baked it at 150c for 60 minutes and then did another 30 minutes at 175c for extra measure/overkill. BA added when cool. Filtered through .45 whatman first into sterile vial then filtered through .22 whatman into sterile vial. I'm going to try 1/2ml in the glute and hope for the best lol.
Well baking it helped a little, but didn't get rid of the pip completely! I did 1/2 ml in the glute last night and today the injection site is sore with a small knot. Nothing too horrible, but still not something anyone would want to run multiple ml's of per week. What a complete waste of fucking money this has been lately, hundreds of $$$ down the drain because of garbage raws. Funny thing is 5-10 years ago this shit was never an issue so I have no clue WTF is going on with raws now? 
Nate42
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Where did you get your raws if you don’t mind me asking? I brewed some test E about a week ago and it was my first brew, did MCT, and 2% BA and 18% BB (I know that’s overkill but wanted to be safe since it was my first brew) and it was completely painless
Well baking it helped a little, but didn't get rid of the pip completely! I did 1/2 ml in the glute last night and today the injection site is sore with a small knot. Nothing too horrible, but still not something anyone would want to run multiple ml's of per week. What a complete waste of fucking money this has been lately, hundreds of $$$ down the drain because of garbage raws. Funny thing is 5-10 years ago this shit was never an issue so I have no clue WTF is going on with raws now?
True story. I never had problems with enanthate before and any other raws, but this year I got 2 raws of enanthate from 2 another providers and there is same problem. Part of my customers have issues with pain, it's like a lottery, because not everyone have this problem. I started trying it on myself and it's same, some injections make pain, some not.
One of the provider told me there is same problem every year with some of enanthate powders and they really don't know what is the reason, because there is always same production procedure. They suspect that could be shipping in summer months problem, so they recommend ordering raws in winter months. I don't know what think about it.
Oroku_Saki
Member
Have you tried injecting the (filtered) oil without solvents and hormones? Maybe you're reacting to the oil and not the raw.
If that goes smooth, try to reduce the concentration. I for example can't use and type of mct, It always knots. I only use sesame or gso and as little solvent as possibile. For 250mg/ml TestE you don't need any BB. I only use 1.2% BA, thats it.
If that goes smooth, try to reduce the concentration. I for example can't use and type of mct, It always knots. I only use sesame or gso and as little solvent as possibile. For 250mg/ml TestE you don't need any BB. I only use 1.2% BA, thats it.
I've tried with gso and mct and both oils I've used before with no issues so it's absolutely the hormone. I brewed up some test-p a few weeks back in gso, 100mg/ml 1/18 and it was the most painful fucking thing I've ever injected. Raws came from a very popular company, but I'm going to try someone else and go with cyp this time. Sucks though cause I prefer test-e as I can just brew it in mct with a little ba and good to go like you do. I prefer simple and less chems
You got painful tren-e? If so is it ugl or homebrew?
HB, new raws , never had this issue before
