Bad PIP Test E, can I recook & fix it

[andrew brady]

I used glass stove top. I was told it does not affect the hormone & it will be fine.

 

[Bloathog]

I used glass stove top. I was told it does not affect the hormone & it will be fine.

Wonder if the color change has anything to do with the quality. I know Tren gets less potent w heat and darkens.

 

[andrew brady]

Honestly, I just think its the carrier oil burning a little bit. In the future ill cook out impurities b4 adding the carrier oil.

 

[Eman]

I noticed test E pip started popping up about two or so years ago from guys that had never previously had an issue and who were using appropriate solvent levels in the brewing process.

The only explanation I've heard is that there is an acid being using during the manufacturing process - don't know if it's a legit cause or not but I've seen enough anecdotal evidence to know that something is going on. It seems to be user specific because two guys can have the same product and only one of them might get a reaction.

 

[andrew brady]

If u read earlier in this thread a guy names the issue. Apparently, they are making test E with another compound. He names the compound & explained it has to cook hotter to evaporate. This process eliminates PIP.

 

[Bloathog]

Brewed lower concentration at 200mg/ml and heated to 110 c for a couple min and no pip for me

 

[andrew brady]

Yup
Mine was fixed completely. Pip free test E

 

[Iron Vett]

Yup
Mine was fixed completely. Pip free test E

So what fixed your test enanthate? Heating to 200° for 20 to 30 minutes or was it something else?

 

[andrew brady]

Yes
The heat cooks off (evaporates) the compound that causes pip...it works !!

 

[YoungB]

Yes
The heat cooks off (evaporates) the compound that causes pip...it works !!

Sorry for the noob question but I´m starting to brew my own gear and I only have Test E available now. Wouldn´t the heat lower the potency of the hormone? At how many ºC and for how much time did you heat up the solution?

 

[xbobo]

Had no success :/

The raw was ordered at the end of July.

Cooked @110°C / 1500rpm for 30 minutes -> Did NOT change the PIP. To make sure I even used various oils, with/without BB, very little BA.

PIP starts after ~24h and lasts at least 1 week, regardless of muscle, generates bumps!

 

[Bloathog]

Had no success :/

The raw was ordered at the end of July.

Cooked @110°C / 1500rpm for 30 minutes -> Did NOT change the PIP. To make sure I even used various oils, with/without BB, very little BA.

PIP starts after ~24h and lasts at least 1 week, regardless of muscle, generates bumps!

Lower concentration a bit and try. Mine did the same (useless due to pip) till I did heat and lowered it.

 

[Bambaloo]

I tried same thing. I used oven on 150 celsius for 60mins with test E. Colour is little darker now, like yellow, before it was transparent, but not dark like trenbolone . Its pip free now, but I am wondering if hormone is not degraded. Normally I used oven on 120 celsius for 30mins and then oil temp was about 75-80 celsius. Now it was probably more than 100 celsius.

Honestly, I just think its the carrier oil burning a little bit. In the future ill cook out impurities b4 adding the carrier oil.

I also check it - I heated only MCT oil (oil solo without powder and bb/ba) for 150 celsius and 60mins to check if its colours will change. Colour is still transparent.
What do you think?

 

[Jet Labs]

I'm having the same issue with my test-e(BAD PIP). So In order to "Cook Off" the chemical in the test do I bake the raw by itself or do I bake it when mixed with carrier oil?

 

[andrew brady]

I would only cook the raw with the BA & BB, solvents, etc. This method should avoid burning the carrier oil. I cooked mine with GSO & it came out very dark.

 

[Jet Labs]

I would only cook the raw with the BA & BB, solvents, etc. This method should avoid burning the carrier oil. I cooked mine with GSO & it came out very dark.

Why add the bb/ba before baking? Wouldn't the solvents just evaporate? I'm thinking of baking just the test-e raw by itself then let cool and proceed to brew like normal.

 

[andrew brady]

Well i can't speak on that. If u go back in the thread the guy that told me about this said to cook it with everything in it, then filter it. That's what I did.

 

[Bambaloo]

I would only cook the raw with the BA & BB, solvents, etc. This method should avoid burning the carrier oil. I cooked mine with GSO & it came out very dark.

I cooked mine with MCT, BA and BB and it came out yellow (before was transparent).
I also cooked solo MCT without raw and colour didnt change.
So probably, colour is not bacause of burning oil, because its getting darker only mixed with raws.
Andrew what about hormone degrading? Did you notice any changes in your stuff after heating? Or is it fine?

 

[andrew brady]

Seems fine. Nobody has complained

 

[Jet Labs]

I decided to do some experimenting guys, right now I have 5 grams of test-e baking in the oven at 150ish by itself in my usual pyrex cup and after an hour I'm going to pull it out, let it cool a bit then add 9mls mct oil/.2ml ba and then filter into 2 sterile 10ml vials. After this batch I'm going bake another 5 grams test-e, but this time with the 9 ml's mct oil and then add the ba when it cools down then filter. I see no point in baking the gear with ba added to the mix as it will just bake off from the mix.........I could be wrong, but I see no point in taking the risk. I'm not using bb because test-e in mct oil @250mg/ml don't need it.