Banning immigrants from "certain" countries

So we should have open borders because I'm most likely to die from a bee? Well shit, why have laws at all if bees are more dangerous, lol.

You missed the point. Your contention is that the threat of a terrorist attack should be enough to force California into submission by the federal government. Statistics show you're more likely to die by bees cops and cows than you are from a terrorist attack. The point is, Why should the threat of a terrorist attack scare California into submission when the threat of a bee or cop attack doesn't since they are MUCH more likely to happen?

The irony is, if I recall correctly and correct me if I'm wrong,you are against government intervention. I seem to recall you saying several times the government should jus let people do what they want so long as they don't hurt anyone else but it seems you're all for big government here.

There is a lot of reform that needs to be done in terms of immigration so that the people that do come here, do it legally. My parents came to this country and went through the process of becoming citizens. It was not easy by any means of the imagination. My girlfriend is in the middle of the process as we speak. The issues I have are that I'm not short sighted enough to think building a wall (that I'll end up paying for) and banning people from certain countries is going to help matters. It will simply incentivize it more for those profiting from it already.
 
You missed the point. Your contention is that the threat of a terrorist attack should be enough to force California into submission by the federal government. Statistics show you're more likely to die by bees cops and cows than you are from a terrorist attack. The point is, Why should the threat of a terrorist attack scare California into submission when the threat of a bee or cop attack doesn't since they are MUCH more likely to happen?

The irony is, if I recall correctly and correct me if I'm wrong,you are against government intervention. I seem to recall you saying several times the government should jus let people do what they want so long as they don't hurt anyone else but it seems you're all for big government here.

There is a lot of reform that needs to be done in terms of immigration so that the people that do come here, do it legally. My parents came to this country and went through the process of becoming citizens. It was not easy by any means of the imagination. My girlfriend is in the middle of the process as we speak. The issues I have are that I'm not short sighted enough to think building a wall (that I'll end up paying for) and banning people from certain countries is going to help matters. It will simply incentivize it more for those profiting from it already.
One of the main reasons for the federal government is to protect its citizens. If we are at war with radical Islam should American death tolls go up before we are able to recognize this war? If we got rid of our intelligence community and our military I'm sure the death toll would rise drastically. You don't think Muslim extremists are trying to kill Americans on our soil? I am most definitely for smaller government, but that doesn't mean I'm for no government. Doesn't mean I'm an anarchist. I think we should stop illegal immigrants from reaching our borders, but I don't think we should be kicking down doors asking to see people's papers. The whacky left would have you believe that, though. There is a place in the middle (or just to the right of it, lol). that is where sanity resides. Migrating to America is a privilege. I think many have forgotten that. It shouldn't be easy and not everybody should be accepted.
 
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One of the main reasons for the federal government is to protect its citizens. If we are at war with radical Islam should American death tolls go up before we are able to recognize this war? If we got rid of our intelligence community and our military I'm sure the death toll would rise drastically. You don't think Muslim extremists are trying to kill Americans on our soil? I am most definitely for smaller government, but that doesn't mean I'm for no government. Doesn't mean I'm an anarchist. I think we should stop illegal immigrants from reaching our borders, but I don't think we should be kicking down doors asking to see people's papers. The whacky left would have you believe that, though. There is a place in the middle (or just to the right of it, lol). that is where sanity resides. Migrating to America is a privilege. I think many have forgotten that. It shouldn't be easy and not everybody should be accepted.
America has enough people, no need to import the worst of the worst. In Americas past immigrants...real legal immigrants had to have something to offer to this nation, LBJ changed that, plus he opened the door on white genocide.

He did a great job, whites are on the verge of becoming a minority in America in my life time. Blacks have gone from the #2 racial group to #3 and soon to be #4.

This racism is blatant and disturbing, all that support it are thugs like Michael Scally CNA.
 
Boston mayor last night already laid out the reasons why they will not do the federal governments Job "to seek illegal immigrants" who are not committing crimes!! It's federal governments job the have policy in place for the millions who are already in this country illegally. Some were brought here by their parents. To hold funds from these places for not enforcing FEDERAL law is not lawful,it's not cities police departments job!! and they plan on fighting in court. It plays well to the base of the Trump White House but has no real merits in real life. Illegal Aliens who are criminals are sought out by le just like any other criminal.
That's all fine and good that the state doesn't have to carry out the federal governments job. But it sounds idiotic for any law enforcement to not take note and pass it on to the right people.
I thought this kind of stuff was just common since stuff that comes up in a lot of areas of life.
You don't think government agencies already report stuff to each other?
I'll give you an example. When i was younger i got into trouble and had my license taken away. The DMV actually took it but the court ordered it. They just didn't say oh that's not my job and let me keep it.
This is one example and there are so many more.
It's against the law to come here ILLEGALLY. Why is it a big deal to enforce our laws?
 
That's all fine and good that the state doesn't have to carry out the federal governments job. But it sounds idiotic for any law enforcement to not take note and pass it on to the right people.
I thought this kind of stuff was just common since stuff that comes up in a lot of areas of life.
You don't think government agencies already report stuff to each other?
I'll give you an example. When i was younger i got into trouble and had my license taken away. The DMV actually took it but the court ordered it. They just didn't say oh that's not my job and let me keep it.
This is one example and there are so many more.
It's against the law to come here ILLEGALLY. Why is it a big deal to enforce our laws?

You misse the whole point. Local law enforce the doesn't have the resources or the authority to go after illegal aliens its ice's job. The local authorities already comply with existing laws and deport the criminals who are not legally here. Everyday undocumented illegal is your dishwasher, your landscaper and so on. They don't get in trouble. When they are taken adventage of we want them to be able to report the crime that's committed against them. You just repeat the ahh you hear. Most these guys and gals work the jobs you don't want to do or even know existed. The rhetoric is just to get you to vote. So I don't understand your point of view off them. How are they criminal ?
 
One of the main reasons for the federal government is to protect its citizens. If we are at war with radical Islam should American death tolls go up before we are able to recognize this war? If we got rid of our intelligence community and our military I'm sure the death toll would rise drastically. You don't think Muslim extremists are trying to kill Americans on our soil? I am most definitely for smaller government, but that doesn't mean I'm for no government. Doesn't mean I'm an anarchist. I think we should stop illegal immigrants from reaching our borders, but I don't think we should be kicking down doors asking to see people's papers. The whacky left would have you believe that, though. There is a place in the middle (or just to the right of it, lol). that is where sanity resides. Migrating to America is a privilege. I think many have forgotten that. It shouldn't be easy and not everybody should be accepted.

There is def a place in the middle and I agree with that.
 
You misse the whole point. Local law enforce the doesn't have the resources or the authority to go after illegal aliens its ice's job. The local authorities already comply with existing laws and deport the criminals who are not legally here. Everyday undocumented illegal is your dishwasher, your landscaper and so on. They don't get in trouble. When they are taken adventage of we want them to be able to report the crime that's committed against them. You just repeat the ahh you hear. Most these guys and gals work the jobs you don't want to do or even know existed. The rhetoric is just to get you to vote. So I don't understand your point of view off them. How are they criminal ?

And you're missing my point. I'm not aware of anyone being required to do a manhunt. If you do get stopped for whatever reason and you're here ILLEGALLY then this needs to be dealt with.
To answer your question we have immigration laws, not saying they're perfect but yes they're definitely law. If you don't follow the proper procedures then you're breaking the law. That's a fact man you can't argue that.
Why do i get punished when i break laws? That's bullshit and you know it.
Let's build a wall secure the border and then deal with the issue we already have.
Do you not see the issues of people coming into our country undocumented?
The world can't be our humanitarian project. Can't you see our country has so many issues that need to be resolved?
Whether it's illegal immigration, or getting into other countries shit (unless it's possess a threat to us) let's stop and deal with our shit first.
 
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