BioLogic Pharmaceuticals

[Candyskull]

How many people had blood levels come back lower than expected? 2? Just wondering if it was larger problem or maybe a single batch got overly diluted. Test is so cheap it doesn't make sense to intentionally under dose it. Also I think batch labeling in this case is used more for logistical tracking (who brewed, when brewed, where it got sent for shipping) rather than tracking individual runs of specific compounds. Just my .02 based off what I've seen in the past.

Only 2 have come forward with it.

 

[Gunrunner]

How many people had blood levels come back lower than expected? 2? Just wondering if it was larger problem or maybe a single batch got overly diluted. Test is so cheap it doesn't make sense to intentionally under dose it. Also I think batch labeling in this case is used more for logistical tracking (who brewed, when brewed, where it got sent for shipping) rather than tracking individual runs of specific compounds. Just my .02 based off what I've seen in the past.

I had labs done after two weeks of 250mg per week of TestE and my TT was >1500.

 

[Ravtech]

I had labs done after two weeks of 250mg per week of TestE and my TT was >1500.

Over 1500 on 250mg a week is pretty good right? Was that by chance the same batch number the others posted? I'll forward any pertinent info people present to Bio so he can locate what product may have an issue, if any actually do. I'm sitting on a mountain of bio gear so knowing all batches were legit is important to me as well.

 

[Zaphod]

I've been emailing back and forth with Bio. I'll let everyone know what comes of it. But they are taking it serious

 

[Ironman1980]

Listen MAN, your talking about two entirely different scenarios, Holiday's vs a crisis!!!!!!! When you say give the guy a break it's the "holidays", I disagree as I said. Now if there is a legit family crisis, someone dies then without a doubt give the guy a break.



Really ? Post office and Walmart? [)]

Alright man, I don't want us to keep going on back & forth. I don't remember trying to get everyone to give him a break bc of the holidays. I do remember someone else saying that though. If I did, my bad. I was leaning more heavily on the "whole" scenario, everything maybe hitting him all at once...going public, a member of the team splitting on em, personal problems, holidays, more personal problems, etc.
Most importantly, his personal problems w family & stuff.
I was kinda trying to be funny about the whole Wal-Mart being closed an all....sorry probably wasn't the right time to try to be funny.

 

[JackC4]

No it was funny, the Post Office and Walmart decide what holidays are important. I'm going to DEMAND Columbus Day OFF and fucking paid !!!!![)]

All good man.

 

[Gunrunner]

Over 1500 on 250mg a week is pretty good right? Was that by chance the same batch number the others posted? I'll forward any pertinent info people present to Bio so he can locate what product may have an issue, if any actually do. I'm sitting on a mountain of bio gear so knowing all batches were legit is important to me as well.

Yes, >1500 is good. I wish I would have gotten the test that gave me the actual number but still it's good. The lot is #05US8612 same as the others.

 

[biologicpharma]

I dont know why I cannot post on this site but I will try again.. I had a nice long post trying to explain some possible scenarios with Stretch but I guess my two posts did not make it. The topic was basically to make sure that this will get fixed and I will see to it that people are taken care of. As long as its a BIO thing I can square it up. If some of you have private relationships with Stretch that it is just that. Private. Stretch is an amazing individual and I can assure any and all of you that the only way he walks is if he is 6 feet under.. Give him a few more days. If for whatever reason he does not pop up I will work with some of you that lost out on something. He is a great friend of mine and I will take it upon myself to make it right even if I get set back a little. If it were not for all of you we would not be Biologic Pharma. As far as the under dosed testosterone we are looking into the matter. I dont know how else to say this but we know internet business and we have worked very hard to develop the Biologic name. Im not sure we would risk under dosing a product like testosterone when that is the least expensive to manufacture. All for saving 2 dollars to tarnish our reputation online and go broke.. Not sure we/I would do that. The important thing is that we look into it and get it right. No matter what we need to do. Thanks to all that support us and I truly feel blessed to be a part of helping the people I can.. Regards...... BP

 

[BR1217]

I dont know why I cannot post on this site but I will try again.. I had a nice long post trying to explain some possible scenarios with Stretch but I guess my two posts did not make it. The topic was basically to make sure that this will get fixed and I will see to it that people are taken care of. As long as its a BIO thing I can square it up. If some of you have private relationships with Stretch that it is just that. Private. Stretch is an amazing individual and I can assure any and all of you that the only way he walks is if he is 6 feet under.. Give him a few more days. If for whatever reason he does not pop up I will work with some of you that lost out on something. He is a great friend of mine and I will take it upon myself to make it right even if I get set back a little. If it were not for all of you we would not be Biologic Pharma. As far as the under dosed testosterone we are looking into the matter. I dont know how else to say this but we know internet business and we have worked very hard to develop the Biologic name. Im not sure we would risk under dosing a product like testosterone when that is the least expensive to manufacture. All for saving 2 dollars to tarnish our reputation online and go broke.. Not sure we/I would do that. The important thing is that we look into it and get it right. No matter what we need to do. Thanks to all that support us and I truly feel blessed to be a part of helping the people I can.. Regards...... BP

Not sure if this has been covered in the other thread or not, is the $1000 Bio giveaway a real promo or BS? I do not have a stake in it as I did not order in the window given but several guys here did. Just curious?

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

This is Biologic Pharma # 1 which means I am the one ultimately responsible for everything at the end of the day. I was emailed by multiple customers of ours that I should look into negative posts on here and help clear up any misunderstanding. Now, when I read what that dbolman or whatever his name was my mouth was wide open. Stretch a scammer? I am actually shocked but Stretch always told me you must have tough skin on the Boards. That is why I do not come on here that often. I work very hard at creating the best product we can and deliver it in the best way possible. We are only human but we try our best. Now I did not go back far enough in the post but I heard that 1 or two people felt the need to broadcast that we are scamming them?

Back 'er up a notch or two there, Skippy. Nobody "broadcast" that you WERE scamming them. There were a few people that were RIGHTLY concerned about their orders because they hadn't received AND Stretch wasn't answering, so it was brought to the open forum. That's the way things work on Meso and it's the price YOU pay for selling your wares on an uncencored forum.

I am wondering why nobody contacted me on the website and chose to make a movie about it on here.

I suspect the answer to this is because Stretch has been the face of Bio since it began.

We're barely into this thing and already your post smacks of contempt for the customer.

We had some challenges with changing out an employee and unfortunately it caused some hiccups. There has been a couple of customers I actually sent back Western Union payments to them until they got their products. Then they sent us back the money. This is the type of relationship we are looking for.

Great. Maybe that should be the new model for online AAS sales - gear first, then payment. I like it.

If there are a couple of lingering payments out there send me your order # and I will send you your money. Why would we need to scam anybody for a few hundred?
SO you can get on here and put us on BLAST? Doesnt make sense to me.

That is such a "source" thing to say. Why does any source scam anybody for a few hundred? I don't know but it happens everyday.

As far as Stretch goes... The man has a life. The "shit talker". Do you know how much time he puts in on the boards? Do you know how many people he was helped?

It was because of "how much time he puts in on the boards," and then his subsequent disappearance that caused people to get a little apprehensive. The apprehension was totally understandable, IMO. This whole mess was handled poorly by Bio and could have, and should have, been avoided.

I am shocked to hear thi,s but Im sure all the people who really matter on here know exactly whats up and those people are our family.

Everyone who placed an order with you "really matters." Everyone that was concerned "really matters." Hell, every single member on Meso "really matters." You won't find ProMucle elitism here, junior.

And I hope NOBODY considers you family. You have a business relationship with your customers - that's all it is. I hope no one here ever forgets that.

To the people you feel got scammed for cash, send me your information and I will get you what you need. No need to acquire an audience. After I pay you back you can come back on here and broadcast that too.

Again, I don't recall anyone saying they were scammed. They were justifiably concerned. Stretch would understand that - it's disconcerting that you don't.

Any of my frustration on this post has to do with the bad mouthing of Stretch. Cant believe that..

You can blame yourself for that, BL1. YOU claim to be the one "ultimately responsible for everything at the end of the day," so the blame lies squarely with YOU. YOU knew Stretch was away , yet YOU failed to make other arrangements to look after YOUR Meso customers. Instead, you threw Stretch under the bus.

Now that I've had an opportunity to read your posts, I'm struck by how important Stretch was to building your public image. Your defensiveness and "blame the customer" mentality prove that. You come across like every run-of-the-mill source that has blown through here.

I suggest you do whatever is necessary to bring Stretch back because your PR skills suck. I suspect your business venture will be short lived without him.

And please break your posts up into paragraphs so they are easier to read.

Regards
CBS

 

[Raider72]

I dont know why I cannot post on this site but I will try again.. I had a nice long post trying to explain some possible scenarios with Stretch but I guess my two posts did not make it. The topic was basically to make sure that this will get fixed and I will see to it that people are taken care of. As long as its a BIO thing I can square it up. If some of you have private relationships with Stretch that it is just that. Private. Stretch is an amazing individual and I can assure any and all of you that the only way he walks is if he is 6 feet under.. Give him a few more days. If for whatever reason he does not pop up I will work with some of you that lost out on something. He is a great friend of mine and I will take it upon myself to make it right even if I get set back a little. If it were not for all of you we would not be Biologic Pharma. As far as the under dosed testosterone we are looking into the matter. I dont know how else to say this but we know internet business and we have worked very hard to develop the Biologic name. Im not sure we would risk under dosing a product like testosterone when that is the least expensive to manufacture. All for saving 2 dollars to tarnish our reputation online and go broke.. Not sure we/I would do that. The important thing is that we look into it and get it right. No matter what we need to do. Thanks to all that support us and I truly feel blessed to be a part of helping the people I can.. Regards...... BP

I will again say, as one of the members that had low labs, that

1. I personally still don't know what the deal is & have not claimed that it was Bio test for sure just that I don't know what else it could be. Both Stretch & Bio rep looked at my labs & cycle & said BS & without request by me offered to replace (& then some) my order on the spot.

2. Bio has worked with me overtime to try & explore all possibilities into the issue without deflecting any responsibility.

3. Offered to test the product to verify dosing if I choose to send remaining back.

I can honestly say that through this issue I am more sold on Bio as a source not less. The professionalism that I have experienced is unreal & just as a reminder, I have put one small order in with Bio so it is not like I am some mega customer. So once the issues that Stretch (whatever they may be) get figured out I will be using Bio for future orders.

 

[GigaloRob]

I couldn't agree more Cbs.

 

[searay]

The 1 thing this rep said that proves he knows stretch was obvious. " He wont walk unless hes 6 ft under" cause thats the stretch we all know.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

I dont know why I cannot post on this site but I will try again.. I had a nice long post trying to explain some possible scenarios with Stretch but I guess my two posts did not make it. The topic was basically to make sure that this will get fixed and I will see to it that people are taken care of. As long as its a BIO thing I can square it up. If some of you have private relationships with Stretch that it is just that. Private. Stretch is an amazing individual and I can assure any and all of you that the only way he walks is if he is 6 feet under.. Give him a few more days. If for whatever reason he does not pop up I will work with some of you that lost out on something. He is a great friend of mine and I will take it upon myself to make it right even if I get set back a little. If it were not for all of you we would not be Biologic Pharma. As far as the under dosed testosterone we are looking into the matter. I dont know how else to say this but we know internet business and we have worked very hard to develop the Biologic name. Im not sure we would risk under dosing a product like testosterone when that is the least expensive to manufacture. All for saving 2 dollars to tarnish our reputation online and go broke.. Not sure we/I would do that. The important thing is that we look into it and get it right. No matter what we need to do. Thanks to all that support us and I truly feel blessed to be a part of helping the people I can.. Regards...... BP

Out of curiosity, do you have any info on the GH buy? I believe Stretch said the re-shipper was going to forward to a BioLogic employee.

 

[Dr JIM]

Bio boy
Where have you been throughout Stretches absence!

I mean really fella this issue which you refer to as HICCUPS has lasted several weeks. (That don't sound like no hiccup to me unless the source is some UNDIAGNOSED GI tumor)

What you call a vagal reflex we call a problem and it seems telling how readily you MINIMIZE it's importance.

So you apparently sat around on your can mum, why is that.
You could have "broadcast" the era of conflict resolution has arrived in Stretches absence, but nope I suspect SALES take precedence.

Why does it seem all you classless AAS "owners" believe they are masters of the UGL universe yet lack the providence to circumvent matters of this magnitude.

Shit these customers you so willingly bash for complaining on an OPEN FORUM are lining your pockets with green.

Next time try congratulating your clients for voicing their concerns on Meso, because thru them your company will succeed yet without NOT EVEN!

JIM

 

[fit2beking]

Out of curiosity, do you have any info on the GH buy? I believe Stretch said the re-shipper was going to forward to a BioLogic employee.

^^^^ I would like to know this as well.

 

[ironwill1951]

i would also like to know..

 

[Ravtech]

Bio boy

Where have you been throughout Stretches absence!



I mean really fella this issue which you refer to as HICCUPS has lasted several weeks. (That don't sound like no hiccup to me unless the source is some UNDIAGNOSED GI tumor)



What you call a vagal reflex we call a problem and it seems telling how readily you MINIMIZE it's importance.



So you apparently sat around on your can mum, why is that.

You could have "broadcast" the era of conflict resolution has arrived in Stretches absence, but nope I suspect SALES take precedence.



Why does it seem all you classless AAS "owners" believe they are masters of the UGL universe yet lack the providence to circumvent matters of this magnitude.



Shit these customers you so willingly bash for complaining on an OPEN FORUM are lining your pockets with green.



Next time try congratulating your clients for voicing their concerns on Meso, because thru them your company will succeed yet without NOT EVEN!



JIM

Considering Bio has been actively resolving all of the issues via PM and email, I think your judgements about lack of professionalism and attention to the customers is out of place. Stretch is Bio's eyes and ears on Meso, and Bio wasn't aware he had gone MIA until I emailed him to let him know yesterday. He immediately started actively taking over the role stretch left vacant and addressed the issues of those concerned privately. If you would read the posts of people that actually do business with him and not people just throwing in their 2 cents, you'd see that people that are actually affected by this were taken care of very quickly and professionally.

 

[TaoPhD]

Considering Bio has been actively resolving all of the issues via PM and email, I think your judgements about lack of professionalism and attention to the customers is out of place. Stretch is Bio's eyes and ears on Meso, and Bio wasn't aware he had gone MIA until I emailed him to let him know yesterday. He immediately started actively taking over the role stretch left vacant and addressed the issues of those concerned privately. If you would read the posts of people that actually do business with him and not people just throwing in their 2 cents, you'd see that people that are actually affected by this were taken care of very quickly and professionally.

I'm going to play devil's advocate with you for a hot second. BIO #1 stated in his last post that he and Stretch are really good friends. It doesn't make sense to me that his really good friend wouldn't let him know he was tapping out for a bit.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

considering bio has been actively resolving all of the issues via pm and email, i think your judgements about lack of professionalism and attention to the customers is out of place. stretch is bio's eyes and ears on meso, and bio wasn't aware he had gone mia until i emailed him to let him know yesterday. he immediately started actively taking over the role stretch left vacant and addressed the issues of those concerned privately. If you would read the posts of people that actually do business with him and not people just throwing in their 2 cents, you'd see that people that are actually affected by this were taken care of very quickly and professionally.

bullshit!!!