BioLogic Pharmaceuticals

[Dr JIM]

Tab I'm talking about how naive you appear and no doubt I'm NOT the only one.

What do you believe is the genesis for questions like WH89 posed?

Here is the answer, in spite of the problems at Bio recently (with Stretch being the front salesman) locate just ONE post of yours where you are OBJECTIVELY CRITICAL of Stretch's actions, responses or replies.

Why your so pro Bio and Stretch one has to query where your allegiance lies!

 

[HandyManny]

Maybe this is all some test by Stretch and those who have kept believing and their faith get like some $1,000,000,000 free gear[)]

 

[Pericles]

I do recall his girl was expecting. Could be the personal issues he's having, I'd be the first person to give him a break

I am trying to stay off this thread and wait, since I have a lot of confidence things will sort out.

However, that issue, I am sad to say, resolved itself. The same happened to my wife and I, and it is really hard on the woman.

 

[Ironman1980]

I am trying to stay off this thread and wait, since I have a lot of confidence things will sort out.



However, that issue, I am sad to say, resolved itself. The same happened to my wife and I, and it is really hard on the woman.

Yes sir...very difficult

 

[getswole89]

Damn it's a shame to hear and see this going on with bio I hope everything gets sorted out

Anyone get any of their unfulfilled orders yet

 

[JackC4]

PC I didn't know that.

We've been through it before, it was awful.

 

[Ravtech]

Alright I'm done arguing and getting posts picked apart by people with a superiority complex and way too much time on their hands. I hope everyone gets their gear, I did what I could to help people out. I don't have a dog in this fight other than being a customer myself so it's not worth the aggravation. I just urge people to look at what ACTUAL customers are saying (both positive and negative) to get valid insight into the situation.

 

[Ironman1980]

We've been thru it before too. It happened to us three times before we finally had our last & final beautiful little girl. My wife was depressed for a while. It's a feeling of helplessness & worthlessness...I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

 

[Ironman1980]

Alright I'm done arguing and getting posts picked apart by people with a superiority complex and way too much time on their hands. I hope everyone gets their gear, I did what I could to help people out. I don't have a dog in this fight other than being a customer myself so it's not worth the aggravation. I just urge people to look at what ACTUAL customers are saying (both positive and negative) to get valid insight into the situation.

I appreciate your help man! I'm sure others do as well.

 

[Raider72]

I believe Bio is & will take care of their customers.

 

[bickel29]

God like status for some indeed it seems that's true.

It's like Stretch is above reproach.

Now we all know although he means well his UGL associations have proven once again to be problematic.

He is far to trusting of "strangers" in the AAS black marketplace, IMO. I suspect because of their "contacts" or business prowess.

These problems first surfaced with S.Fax (yet were overlooked by most) then Herc and now again with Bio.

So no unfortunately I'm NOT surprised this issue has resurfaced since Stretch himself has admitted he is his own worst enemy in that regard.

NOPE, I DONT BELIEVE STRETCH DELIBERATELY SCREWS FOLK BUT SHIT ROLLS DOWNHILL FELLAS!!!

All that being said Stretch has made amends for his "errors" previously.

I sincerely hope that will prove to be the case this time around also.

Jim

GREAT post Jim. Good points. I think the loyalty to Stretch is mostly related to all of the good things he has done for people that didn't benefit Bio or Stretch directly. Like giving a guy advice on how to run gear that the guy didn't even buy from Bio, or telling a guy where he could find an item that Bio doesn't carry, and him not saying "tell them Stretch told you to order from them" in an effort to gain from it...stuff like that.

I think a lot of guys here have been burned by SO MANY snakes in the UGL world that when a guy like Stretch appears to be a genuinely good dude, and helps others at his own expense, that the meso member benefitting from it is SO GRATEFUL that they found someone who appears to be a legit good brother - that the Meso member will bend over backward defending him, kinda like you or I might defend our brother or significant other even if the rest of the folks in the room might wonder why.

I hate to sound so damned wishy-washy and spineless, but I truly can see just about EVERY MEMBERS point of view on this topic. The guys who have extended themselves financially and can not get their gear, nor a satisfying anwer(s), well - I get why they are upset and speaking out. The guys who are defending Stretch and calling for calm, well - I get their side too (see the 'defending your brother or wife' reference above).

It really comes down to one thing - we all pretty much want the same thing. For everyone involved here to get what they really do deserve!

 

[Ironman1980]

^^^very well put Bickel^^^

 

[stomps]

Oh man finally got caught up with this thread

I sincerely hope stretch is fine and not because of his relation with bio but because he has always been there for me and is a good person

 

[mugzy]

Do you have any outstanding order thru Stretch or Bio???

Your kidding me right? FYI, Stretch IS Bio.

 

[biggerben69]

Oh man finally got caught up with this thread

I sincerely hope stretch is fine and not because of his relation with bio but because he has always been there for me and is a good person

The supposed story that Stretches' partner hasn't heard from Stretch is disconcerting to say the least. I don't know if that guy knows stretches real name and location? When I said I Stretch and I knew each others real id I was being honest. The truth also is that I was given that info about 2 yrs ago and as there wasn't a reason for me to keep the info handy I didn't. I don't remember.
This is one reason why guys I am close with know who I am and I know them. A little more direct is the following. Being able to find out if someone, in this case Stretech, was busted would save a lot of good people being from the possibility of walking into a trap and getting arrested themselves. Information is paramount.
The next thing is what I tell guys that I may have dealings with, You will always hear me talk about there being layers between a source and LE. That means that those layers will exist between the source and his customers as well. That truth exists because in our world LE more likely than not will come dressed as a customer. Encrypted email, test ? and answer for picking up funds. Different shipping location than where the source lives and collects, etc.
The only thing that I've found to be safer than having all the bases covered as far as security goes is total and complete disclosure. I know you and your name and addy and you know mine.
I hate to think that he Is jammed up, Sucks. I've asked a couple of people that should be able to do just that, help, look into things. Like find out if he's been arrested. I haven't any dealings with stretch but I am concerned for him as I am for all of you.

 

[JackC4]

Stretch def is Bio, he told me he was the owner way before bio hit the forum .

So who is his partner on here now ?!!!

 

[Ironman1980]

Your kidding me right? FYI, Stretch IS Bio.

I think you misunderstood...
I meant any business thru Stretch or Bio meaning the Bio website. Some people like to keep there business going thru Stretch while others just get on the website & place there order. I really didn't expect an answer anyways bc every time I ask em a question after he bashes Stretch, he seems to disappear for a while. And, I seriously doubt Stretch would do any business w him anyways.

 

[TaoPhD]

Hey Ben,
Great point that has gone unsaid. If he has been busted I feel it is paramount that his customers know. I sincerely hope Bio1 is not withholding that info. I'm not a customer but I hope you are able to shed light on that particular concern. Good looking out

 

[drockspang1]

I hate to think that too BB69: But if he did get roped up, he would of surely bonded out by now, and would be able to get word out to someone and let them know that the heat is on, and to tell everyone NOT to do business with Bio at the moment. I hate to even get into all of that(speculation) because I really don't know what's going on? And I don't like to make assumptions & start rumors. I think the safest choice any member of this forum has, is to hold off doing business with Bio until we get some answers... Just my opinion.

And I agree with the latest sentiment. Stretch IS Bio. What happened to the other guy anyway?

 

[bickel29]

Hey Ben,
Great point that has gone unsaid. If he has been busted I feel it is paramount that his customers know. I sincerely hope Bio1 is not withholding that info. I'm not a customer but I hope you are able to shed light on that particular concern. Good looking out

I just assumed that a lot of us here have thought/wondered/considered that possibility. I could be wrong, but just the fact that a well known source would go MIA so suddenly for so long, well.... I would think that them being busted would always go through our minds as a possibility.

Did they take the money and run? Possible. Why else would they just disappear? Well think about why your local dealers might disappear. It is a very short list of reasons... the above being on that very short list.