BioLogic Pharmaceuticals

[flex001]

Guys, I typically stay in the background in the source threads but I've been around the block and personally I get it if you're pissed but it doesn't really say anything if you're robbed by a drug dealer. It's a shady game all around and it's the game we all play. If he rolled, it's total bullshit but it's also a lesson learned. I can afford to lose a couple hundred bucks but a reputation is priceless. I don't know if he took off or not not but I always order 6 months to a year out so I'm typically good either way. Never depend or trust in any of this $hit. My suggestion would be to keep orders with any source, at a $200 max. There's no limit on number of orders so once you receive one order, order again if you need more. Just chiming in bros. I could honestly give a f'k because I'm honestly good but I'm just letting my fellow bros know what has served me well.

 

[Dr JIM]

RaTech come on, are you really that naive! You honestly believe your recent communication was the reason for Bio's ethical epiphany. Let's not enable them to use you as the example for "appropriate consumer Bio communication". I mean what would the UGL AAS world come to if clients "broadcasted" their negative experiences on Meso, rather than firing off one of those beloved (by UGL) PMs

For someone like Bio Boy to take issue with legitimate customer complaints means one problem OR another. Why? Hmm because this degree of oversight from the "#1 Man In Charge at Bio" may represent the causation for many of the difficulties encountered recently.

Look IF he really is the MIC at Bio then he has a dutiful obligation to supervise his employees appropriately and in a timely fashion. So either he knew a problem existed yet said and did NOTHING, or wasn't aware trouble was a brewing because he failed to exercise due diligence.
Neither alternative are comforting thoughts for Bio, IMO.

Nevertheless although I suspect the arrogance displayed on his Meso post suggests the former is/was a more likely possibility, it matters not since this neglectful activity created unnecessary angst at the very least and the possibility of lost funds since that remains a possibility, (especially now that we have been informed whom is "in charge at Bio", lol!)

jim

 

[Ironman1980]

Back 'er up a notch or two there, Skippy. Nobody "broadcast" that you WERE scamming them. There were a few people that were RIGHTLY concerned about their orders because they hadn't received AND Stretch wasn't answering, so it was brought to the open forum. That's the way things work on Meso and it's the price YOU pay for selling your wares on an uncencored forum.









I suspect the answer to this is because Stretch has been the face of Bio since it began.



We're barely into this thing and already your post smacks of contempt for the customer.









Great. Maybe that should be the new model for online AAS sales - gear first, then payment. I like it.











That is such a "source" thing to say. Why does any source scam anybody for a few hundred? I don't know but it happens everyday.









It was because of "how much time he puts in on the boards," and then his subsequent disappearance that caused people to get a little apprehensive. The apprehension was totally understandable, IMO. This whole mess was handled poorly by Bio and could have, and should have, been avoided.







Everyone who placed an order with you "really matters." Everyone that was concerned "really matters." Hell, every single member on Meso "really matters." You won't find ProMucle elitism here, junior.



And I hope NOBODY considers you family. You have a business relationship with your customers - that's all it is. I hope no one here ever forgets that.











Again, I don't recall anyone saying they were scammed. They were justifiably concerned. Stretch would understand that - it's disconcerting that you don't.







You can blame yourself for that, BL1. YOU claim to be the one "ultimately responsible for everything at the end of the day," so the blame lies squarely with YOU. YOU knew Stretch was away , yet YOU failed to make other arrangements to look after YOUR Meso customers. Instead, you threw Stretch under the bus.



Now that I've had an opportunity to read your posts, I'm struck by how important Stretch was to building your public image. Your defensiveness and "blame the customer" mentality prove that. You come across like every run-of-the-mill source that has blown through here.



I suggest you do whatever is necessary to bring Stretch back because your PR skills suck. I suspect your business venture will be short lived without him.



And please break your posts up into paragraphs so they are easier to read.



Regards

CBS

Did I miss something?!? I never saw this post from Bio #1...

 

[Ravtech]

Did I miss something?!? I never saw this post from Bio #1...

Me either... wtf did that quote come from?

 

[Zaphod]

Its at the end of pg. 253.

I guess when a post has to be approved it goes to the place it would have been at the time of writing and not the time of approval?

 

[ironwill1951]

several people have asked this question but no one will answer .

Out of curiosity, do you have any info on the GH buy? I believe Stretch said the re-shipper was going to forward to a BioLogic employee.

 

[ironwill1951]

i have nothing personal against stretch . but for you guys that think he could do no wrong, and should be trusted completly no matter what here is a quote from him

That would be the recipe for disaster. This is the internet and you don't me. You don't know any of these Vets.

It will take 5-6 months, THEN you will kind of know us. Until then, your opinions of those around you will change, almost daily.

Word to the new guys listening....do NOT trust in the Vets. Vets have been scamming, robbing, stealing from new members for as long as forums have existed. Use your brain....trust yourself...no one else.

 

[drockspang1]

Can I ask the guys of this community for their opinions on something? How do we know there is even a "Bio #1" at this UGL? I mean, isn't it totally feasible that Stretch was actually the main man? I always thought that he was more involved then what was talked about here. Just my opinion, though? I think he's more of a "partner" that handles the online stuff because he was good at it. If he is just a rep, he was the most powerful "rep" that I've ever seen.
But let's take Bio #1's post for face value, and accept that he's really the boss, and Stretch was his right hand man. Well then, I think the community, and especially those who still have $ on the line, deserve to know. Wtf happened to Stretch? Where is he bro? Did you guys have a falling out? If he's tending to personal matters, why hasn't anybody heard from him. Not even OFF the boards. There are a couple of guys on here, mainly some of the more established vets, that claim to be good friends with Stretch, and even know his real identity. Have any of you guys heard from him? Just curios as to what's going on.

Also, has anyone that's part of the GH group buy heard anything at all?

CBS: I agree 100% brother! Great post.

 

[dbolman]

BioLogic should have handled this better. Stretch took off withe everyone's money. Why do you guys trust a complete stranger so much? This is how scams start? You guys can hate me all you want. I'm right about stretch. Prove me wrong because unless you do, I'm right about what's going on. If anyone needs a legit source check PEP, Astro, or Ascendent. People are testing low with Bio test, the main man is gone with money, and he's showing no sign of return. What more proof so I need to furnish? Why doesn't someone prove he's legit? You can't.

 

[Ironman1980]

BioLogic should have handled this better. Stretch took off withe everyone's money. Why do you guys trust a complete stranger so much? This is how scams start? You guys can hate me all you want. I'm right about stretch. Prove me wrong because unless you do, I'm right about what's going on. If anyone needs a legit source check PEP, Astro, or Ascendent. People are testing low with Bio test, the main man is gone with money, and he's showing no sign of return. What more proof so I need to furnish? Why doesn't someone prove he's legit? You can't.

Do you have any outstanding order thru Stretch or Bio???

 

[Ravtech]

RaTech come on, are you really that naive! You honestly believe your recent communication was the reason for Bio's ethical epiphany.



jim

What the fuck are you talking about? I never said I had any impact or influence on Bio's business ethics by emailing them, I just said that I sent Bio an email to let them know Stretch was MIA and there were people with unfulfilled orders that had concerns. He said he was unaware of this since he doesn't monitor the boards, but he would jump on and clear things up. He also asked for the handles of anyone who I knew needed help so he could get to them faster.

I'm not claiming to have done anything other than relay information to people who I thought might need it, whether it be to Bio or by assisting members in reaching him that didn't have a direct email contact.

 

[JackC4]

Only 2 have come forward with it.

I had issues with the Test E and dbol. No blood work but I was the first to bring it to stretch's attention. He said he hadn't fielded one single complaint like mine, and said sorry it hadn't worked out.

Once Raider came forward. With his blood work it gave validadated my concerns.

 

[Ironman1980]

I had issues with the Test E and dbol. No blood work but I was the first to bring it to stretch's attention. He said he hadn't fielded one single complaint like mine, and said sorry it hadn't worked out.



Once Raider came forward. With his blood work it gave validadated my concerns.

Without having to go back thru the thread, what was the issue w the Test & Dbol? I was just curious... Thanks

 

[JackC4]

6wks of dbol at 60mgs a day with no strength no pump no bloat.

I switched to bio test from another brand and my balls increased in size, seminal fluid increased. I basically felt like my test levels were crashing. Ran test at 500mg a week for 8 weeks.

 

[workinghard89]

This whole thing with bio is crazy. But I'm curious, how did they get there god like status ?

 

[Ironman1980]

6wks of dbol at 60mgs a day with no strength no pump no bloat.



I switched to bio test from another brand and my balls increased in size, seminal fluid increased. I basically felt like my test levels were crashing. Ran test at 500mg a week for 8 weeks.

Damn Jack, that's not good! I wish I could read my body better. I hear everyone on this or on that, & they see signs of this or that. I don't know what to look for w a lot of stuff. I'm currently on a cycle & taking (IMO) a pretty hefty load of shit...I think I'm getting stronger. I think I'm lifting more. I've always been hornier than 3 peckered bird dog so I don't have problems w libido an stuff. I look in the mirror & some days I think "Hell Ya, I'm doing good!" But then other days I'm like "Damn son, what the hell is wrong w you fat ass!" I dunno man...maybe one day I'll look like my boy in the pic! Lol

 

[Raider72]

Does it back to the Herc issues & the Bio alleged connection to all that mess? That is right around when I ordered from Bio. This is all interesting & just waiting to see how it all pans out. My thing is if Bio was/is scamming then why the concerted effort to stay in the game? Wouldn't they just disappear? It is getting messy for sure.

 

[JackC4]

That was around the time I got mine as well. Time will tell.

I was promised a refund but I'm not going to hold my breath

 

[Ironman1980]

That was around the time I got mine as well. Time will tell.



I was promised a refund but I'm not going to hold my breath

It doesn't matter who it is...if you're having problems, you should get replacement gear or refund.

 

[Dr JIM]

God like status for some indeed it seems that's true.

It's like Stretch is above reproach.

Now we all know although he means well his UGL associations have proven once again to be problematic.

He is far to trusting of "strangers" in the AAS black marketplace, IMO. I suspect because of their "contacts" or business prowess.

These problems first surfaced with S.Fax (yet were overlooked by most) then Herc and now again with Bio.

So no unfortunately I'm NOT surprised this issue has resurfaced since Stretch himself has admitted he is his own worst enemy in that regard.

NOPE, I DONT BELIEVE STRETCH DELIBERATELY SCREWS FOLK BUT SHIT ROLLS DOWNHILL FELLAS!!!

All that being said Stretch has made amends for his "errors" previously.

I sincerely hope that will prove to be the case this time around also.

Jim