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Awesome!

Got your letter, thanks.

Back to China: A lot of junk is made, but it all depends on quality control, there is some good stuff from there. I am referring to clothes.



PC I tried what you suggested today for chest day. I literally used 50lb dumbbells to just get the feel. I almost didn't even feel my arms work until the last half of the motion. I felt full activation in my chest after 5-6 warmup sets, then just continues my incline and decline with light weight to get the feel... Great chest day today. I had tons of blood in my chest, and will just up my weight slowly and keep focusing on the form and feel.
-CRS
 
Most China labs are better then the alternative. Here is a pic of a local guy at my gym.
 

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OK. PC is taking 2 ius a day of bogus HGH and having good results. Everybody else is talking about cell phones, prostitutes and clothes in China. All I was trying to do is to see if it can be determined what in the hell it is that their selling and calling HGH. We KNOW it's counterfeit, just don't know what it is. But It looks like it's irrelevant at this point.
 
OK. PC is taking 2 ius a day of bogus HGH and having good results. Everybody else is talking about cell phones, prostitutes and clothes in China. All I was trying to do is to see if it can be determined what in the hell it is that their selling and calling HGH. We KNOW it's counterfeit, just don't know what it is. But It looks like it's irrelevant at this point.

Sorry mate. If you jump over to the thread on finding legit hgh, Dr. Jim and numerous other people discuss possibilities ad nauseam. Thing is, no one is real sure, but everyone is pretty sure it ain't the same stuff.
 
Hey fella, I can respect that you've been here for a while and seen some things, but you don't know me from Adam, and I don't like your tone.

I didn't have attitude with you. What I had was an opinion that opposes your ignorant and biased view of people with a criminal history. A lot of people do. Also, if you haven't noticed, what we're doing and discussing here isn't exactly legal, and could presumably lead to a rap sheet all on it's own.

So, let's make a handshake deal between men since I like this place, and don't want unnecessary problems with members who have seen more than I have. You quit stereotyping people with some bumps in their past, and I'll give you all the respect you deserve. Sound fair?


I simply stated that stretch had a background and hails from a rough City because some people seemed to have the impression that they were sending money to an above ground business with a customer service section.
If you CHOOSE to take offence to that that's your problem, because I never named you or any associate of yours either directly or indirectly. For what that's worth there are guys on this board that have a bigger record than you, that have done serious time, and they knew I meant no disrespect by that statement.
Its the fucking drug world, and guess what? There's some sleazy people in it. If you choose to lump yourself in with the bad ones that's you're problem dude.

You CHOOSE to come at me calling me "killer" and talking shit directly to me, and your gonna get shit back in your direction. Respect is a 2 way street my friend.
 
I simply stated that stretch had a background and hails from a rough City because some people seemed to have the impression that they were sending money to an above ground business with a customer service section.

If you CHOOSE to take offence to that that's your problem, because I never named you or any associate of yours either directly or indirectly. For what that's worth there are guys on this board that have a bigger record than you, that have done serious time, and they knew I meant no disrespect by that statement.

Its the fucking drug world, and guess what? There's some sleazy people in it. If you choose to lump yourself in with the bad ones that's you're problem dude.



You CHOOSE to come at me calling me "killer" and talking shit directly to me, and your gonna get shit back in your direction. Respect is a 2 way street my friend.


Well you are Killa Kam!! ;)

You and Skull are both great guys in my book, I hope you both get past this misunderstanding..
 
I simply stated that stretch had a background and hails from a rough City because some people seemed to have the impression that they were sending money to an above ground business with a customer service section.
If you CHOOSE to take offence to that that's your problem, because I never named you or any associate of yours either directly or indirectly. For what that's worth there are guys on this board that have a bigger record than you, that have done serious time, and they knew I meant no disrespect by that statement.
Its the fucking drug world, and guess what? There's some sleazy people in it. If you choose to lump yourself in with the bad ones that's you're problem dude.

You CHOOSE to come at me calling me "killer" and talking shit directly to me, and your gonna get shit back in your direction. Respect is a 2 way street my friend.

Then I truly believe this was a simple miscommunication/misinterpretation. You obviously weren't trying to generalize, and I wasn't trying to sling shit by saying "easy killer" since that's a common turn of phrase where I'm from meaning only "slow down for a second".

No disrespect intended, and I'm sorry I let myself get hot over it and showed my ass.
 
Then I truly believe this was a simple miscommunication/misinterpretation. You obviously weren't trying to generalize, and I wasn't trying to sling shit by saying "easy killer" since that's a common turn of phrase where I'm from meaning only "slow down for a second".

No disrespect intended, and I'm sorry I let myself get hot over it and showed my ass.

Just a misunderstanding, I consider it quashed.
 
If the day ever comes that black label Giorgio Armani suits are made in China, I'll insist on a significant discount no matter how good they are.

I am a clothes whore. I also have about 50 pair of shoes

Here is the crazy part: In Italy, and I am talking about even the top, top designers, who is working in the shop? Chinese. I shit you not. Having said that, 90% of clothes coming out of China are indeed junk. Much better to go w/ India.

IMO, today some of the best clothes in the world are coming out of the US. I loooove high quality jeans and Lucchese boots. The best denim is made in Japan and or the US. When I was taking Prami (studies have shown it can cause compulsive gambling and shopping) every time there was a sale on $250 jeans, I could not resist. It is good, because I still have 22 pair of jeans, half I have not even had tailored yet (I can't afford it right now, lol). The Italians still have the edge in style, but I think the US stuff is better quality in terms of fabric. Check out an Agave shirt...100% cotton, but soft as silk.


CBS: I have some bad news for you. Armani Black labels are fused or half fused. That means they are held together w/ glue. Wear them for a year and they start losing their shape. Have it cleaned and it gets worse. Also, as mentioned, they are made in Italy using Chinese labor and machine (not hand) sewing

Boss, Fendi, Brooks Brothers et al are fused. People hear the name and automatically think they are great, but not really. My tailor, Vietnamese gal, will make you a better suit for $800.

What you want is "canvassed." Canvassed means that they were sewed. Hand sewed is preferred, but a fully machine sewed suit is also high quality. All the layers will fit and hang properly. I have a Hickey Freeman. Fully canvased. Do your homework (yes, I am a member of a clothes forum, no homo) and be patient. I use Sierra traders. I waited and watched and finally got a $1500 Hickey Freeman for $600. If you are a big BB, you will pay a shitload for tailoring, so get the best, IMO. Fused suits are only good for those who have to wear a suit every day, unless they make a ton of money.
 
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I am a clothes whore. I also have about 50 pair of shoes

Here is the crazy part: In Italy, and I am talking about even the top, top designers, who is working in the shop? Chinese. I shit you not. Having said that, 90% of clothes coming out of China are indeed junk. Much better to go w/ India.

IMO, today some of the best clothes in the world are coming out of the US. I loooove high quality jeans and Lucchese boots. The best denim is made in Japan and or the US. When I was taking Prami (studies have shown it can cause compulsive gambling and shopping) every time there was a sale on $250 jeans, I could not resist. It is good, because I still have 22 pair of jeans, half I have not even had tailored yet (I can't afford it right now, lol). The Italians still have the edge in style, but I think the US stuff is better quality in terms of fabric. Check out an Agave shirt...100% cotton, but soft as silk.


CBS: I have some bad news for you. Armani Black labels are fused or half fused. That means they are held together w/ glue. Wear them for a year and they start losing their shape. Have it cleaned and it gets worse. Also, as mentioned, they are made in Italy using Chinese labor and machine (not hand) sewing

Boss, Fendi, Brooks Brothers et al are fused. People hear the name and automatically think they are great, but not really. My tailor, Vietnamese gal, will make you a better suit for $800.

What you want is "canvassed." Canvassed means that they were sewed. Hand sewed is preferred, but a fully machine sewed suit is also high quality. All the layers will fit and hang properly. I have a Hickey Freeman. Fully canvased. Do your homework (yes, I am a member of a clothes forum, no homo) and be patient. I use Sierra traders. I waited and watched and finally got a $1500 Hickey Freeman for $600. If you are a big BB, you will pay a shitload for tailoring, so get the best, IMO. Fused suits are only good for those who have to wear a suit every day, unless they make a ton of money.

Brooks Brothers is a bastion of American menswear. Founded in 1818, they’ve provided clothing for every American man, from college students to businessmen to American presidents (they even made TR’s uniform for the Spanish-American War). Their 1818 line is half-canvassed, available in three different cuts (from slim to more traditional), and priced very competitively.

Their Golden Fleece line is fully canvassed and substantially more expensive that the 1818.

They're all I'll wear, primarily Golden Fleece, but I do own a couple 1818's that I liked the pattern on. I don't do itallian, and I don't know how any of you guys with any quad or glue size could.
 
I don't do itallian, and I don't know how any of you guys with any quad or glue size could.

I'm not into high fashion, but I always had a problem finding pants/jeans that fit. My waist at 10% bf is 33. Genetically I have a large ass and I was on a bicycle every chance I could get up until I was old enough to drive. Always had strong legs. I usually end up with baggier pants than I would like, otherwise I won't be able to fit anything in my pockets. What do you guys with larger lower body do about jeans?
 
I'm not into high fashion, but I always had a problem finding pants/jeans that fit. My waist at 10% bf is 33. Genetically I have a large ass and I was on a bicycle every chance I could get up until I was old enough to drive. Always had strong legs. I usually end up with baggier pants than I would like, otherwise I won't be able to fit anything in my pockets. What do you guys with larger lower body do about jeans?

Don't wear them.. Just say fuck it and wear sweatpants all the time. :D
 
I'm not into high fashion, but I always had a problem finding pants/jeans that fit. My waist at 10% bf is 33. Genetically I have a large ass and I was on a bicycle every chance I could get up until I was old enough to drive. Always had strong legs. I usually end up with baggier pants than I would like, otherwise I won't be able to fit anything in my pockets. What do you guys with larger lower body do about jeans?

501's. I like the selvedge denim ones, but they're all cut the same. They're classic cut. Natural waist so there's plenty of ass room. Legs are sized well. I buy shrink to fits, and I don't wash them until they're going to become work jeans. If you buy shrink to fit, buy a couple inches up in the waist in length because they shrink if you wash them, which I don't recommend unless they're work pants. If you're willing to shell out a couple bills a pair, you can usually find locally made selvedge denim jeans that have a classic cut. Again, don't wash them but don't work in them and they'll last years and years.
 
That's an easy fix! Go online and order some 98% cotton 2% spandex jeans FOR MEN. I prefer 7 jeans if you can afford them. They are super comfortable though.


I'm not into high fashion, but I always had a problem finding pants/jeans that fit. My waist at 10% bf is 33. Genetically I have a large ass and I was on a bicycle every chance I could get up until I was old enough to drive. Always had strong legs. I usually end up with baggier pants than I would like, otherwise I won't be able to fit anything in my pockets. What do you guys with larger lower body do about jeans?
 
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