AlexDavis43
Member
I use these for amps, mainly because 1.5 inches and a blunt tip allows for the extraction of more oil.
Always looked like a lot of residual oil in the amp after withdrawing with a standard tip needle.
Bonus: less glass in your ass
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
What needle length for my delts?
I use these for amps, mainly because 1.5 inches and a blunt tip allows for the extraction of more oil.
Always looked like a lot of residual oil in the amp after withdrawing with a standard tip needle.
Bonus: less glass in your ass
bigboy420
Member
You sure its so bad?
Using insulin pen needles up to five times does not affect needle tip shape nor increase pain intensity - PubMed
Using pen needles four to five times does not lead to progressive needle tip deformity and does not increase pain intensity or unpleasantness, but could increase convenience and lead to substantial financial savings in Europe of around EUR 100 million/year.
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Effect of Reuse of Insulin Needle on Glycaemic Control and Related Complications in Children with Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus: A Prospective Observational Study - PMC
Children with type 1 diabetes (T1D) take multiple subcutaneous injections of insulin daily to survive. It is controversial whether the insulin needles can be reused safely or not. This study assesses the effect of the reuse versus single-use of ...
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bigpoppachump2
Well-known Member
Yeah. It is. I think after a few thousand injections over the last decade and a half I could be labeled as somewhat of an expert on needles getting dull after pushing them through a plunger and skin.You sure its so bad?
Using insulin pen needles up to five times does not affect needle tip shape nor increase pain intensity - PubMed
Using pen needles four to five times does not lead to progressive needle tip deformity and does not increase pain intensity or unpleasantness, but could increase convenience and lead to substantial financial savings in Europe of around EUR 100 million/year.
Effect of Reuse of Insulin Needle on Glycaemic Control and Related Complications in Children with Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus: A Prospective Observational Study - PMC
Children with type 1 diabetes (T1D) take multiple subcutaneous injections of insulin daily to survive. It is controversial whether the insulin needles can be reused safely or not. This study assesses the effect of the reuse versus single-use of ...
Ghoul
Well-known Member
You sure its so bad?
Using insulin pen needles up to five times does not affect needle tip shape nor increase pain intensity - PubMed
Using pen needles four to five times does not lead to progressive needle tip deformity and does not increase pain intensity or unpleasantness, but could increase convenience and lead to substantial financial savings in Europe of around EUR 100 million/year.
Effect of Reuse of Insulin Needle on Glycaemic Control and Related Complications in Children with Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus: A Prospective Observational Study - PMC
Children with type 1 diabetes (T1D) take multiple subcutaneous injections of insulin daily to survive. It is controversial whether the insulin needles can be reused safely or not. This study assesses the effect of the reuse versus single-use of ...
I can feel the difference without a doubt between needles used to draw then pin and virgin.
(hang on, those are pen needles. Going into flesh isn't going to dull like a hard rubber stopper will.)
bigboy420
Member
I dont one bit, always painless.
Once I panicked pinned 3 times in the skin and I started hearing tearing noise. But that was once.
bigpoppachump2
Well-known Member
bigpoppachump2
Well-known Member
Needle point degradation is especially problematic with thin walled small gauge needles.
Ghoul
Well-known Member
That last one is factory fresh from China. Needs more pieces of loose metal flash on it though.
bigboy420
Member
But still thats in the skin.
Doubt piercing a rubber once does anything noticing
bigpoppachump2
Well-known Member
When I first started aas I didn’t really care about sharpness or quality. Only thing I knew and cared about was that oil went where it was supposed to go and that it did its job. Fast forward many years I care more about scar tissue and comfort post injection so I use only fresh high quality brand small needles and take much better care remaining still and precision on the location of the injection. Anything that isn’t super sharp just pops and slices it’s way through all the scar tissue I have across all my injection sites. Wish I’d take. More care in the early years but I didn’t because I never thought I’d still be sticking a needle in my ass or thigh this many years later.
T-Bagger
Elite
I used to put up to 3 - 4 mL in my delts when I frontloaded. As a caution, I am now attributing my shoulder arthritis to my delts being my primary pincushion. I could be wrong, but just a word of caution from an old fart.
Ghoul
Well-known Member
Sorry man, I hope it's not too bad.
I've been kind of obsessed with avoiding arthritis. The fact is, arthritis ALWAYS has a cause that can be head off if caught quickly enough, despite our acceptance of it as a "normal" part of aging. It's not,
I've been pointing out particles, rubber stopper coring, and all the other crap known to be in injectables, cause a condition called "reactive arthritis". Some guys responded with the typical "I've been pinning for years without filtering and it's no problem.". I wonder where they think all that shit ends up.
Even the sickest patients, or heroin addicts, don't pin as much as we do.
Therefore what's harmless in a handful of shots each year, can do significant damage, cumulatively over the years.
Now I always filter, everything. Half the critics probobly only drink bottled or filtered water, but somehow believe injecting unknown contaminants is harmless.
T-Bagger
Elite
Appreciate the well wishes. I sleep on grounding sheets, and whether one chooses to believe it or not, they help IMMENSELY. I wake up with no pain in the shoulder and it’s not till a few hours down the road I start to feel it. Go to bed, rinse, lather, repeat. Such is life.
If I could do it again, I would’ve never pinned or been more responsible. Not sure what I could’ve really done different and funny thing about bottled and filtered water - most don’t even pay attention to the plastics that leech into their water, not to mention they can sit in direct sunlight or intense heat before they’re brought in to a cooler environment.
Ghoul
Well-known Member
I hear you. I'm sure no matter what safety measures we take today, based on the most up to date science, 20 years from now we'll look like the Romans drinking water in lead cups.
I've just made peace with doing what you can going forward, and not worrying about the mistakes of the past.
Mongo966
Well-known Member
Nah give yourself another shot at it. It takes a bit of practice.
I never bother backfilling with water solutions because they're easy to draw straight from the vial with insulin pins and, like you've said, there would be too much loss out of the needle tip.
It's a lot easier to backfill with oils. Just tuck the tip of the plunger back into the barrel just enough to make a seal and then turn it upside down so the air bubble floats up to the tip, and then push it out. I usually have a little bit of loss but not much.
lukiss96
Well-known Member
Insulin syringes don't degrade quite like that. That's why I'm a fan. Besides scar tissue is less likely to form.
Exactly what i use for my delts. But I don't use them for oils. Can't even push Vit D with this.. lol
Yeah. I chanced upon a diabetes forum where over 90% of respondents mentioned reusing pen needles over a couple of days. Before that i was running 2/day (AM and PM injections). I'm wiser now..You sure its so bad?
Using insulin pen needles up to five times does not affect needle tip shape nor increase pain intensity - PubMed
Using pen needles four to five times does not lead to progressive needle tip deformity and does not increase pain intensity or unpleasantness, but could increase convenience and lead to substantial financial savings in Europe of around EUR 100 million/year.
Effect of Reuse of Insulin Needle on Glycaemic Control and Related Complications in Children with Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus: A Prospective Observational Study - PMC
Children with type 1 diabetes (T1D) take multiple subcutaneous injections of insulin daily to survive. It is controversial whether the insulin needles can be reused safely or not. This study assesses the effect of the reuse versus single-use of ...
