What needle length for my delts?

[AlexDavis43]

Does that also prevents glass shards? I have a few vials in ampoules, but been to scared to use them incase of glass that gets drawn up I can't see.

I use these for amps, mainly because 1.5 inches and a blunt tip allows for the extraction of more oil.

Always looked like a lot of residual oil in the amp after withdrawing with a standard tip needle.

Bonus: less glass in your ass

 

[bigboy420]

Drawing and pinning with the same needle is just all around a bad idea. Don’t be cheap, buy needles for drawing and needles for pinning. Look up pictures of needle points under a microscope after being used one time. I will swap needle tips sometimes after having to relocate due to a nerve because I can see and feel clear difference in the ease of puncture after just one insertion.

You sure its so bad?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168822704001767

Using insulin pen needles up to five times does not affect needle tip shape nor increase pain intensity - PubMed

Using pen needles four to five times does not lead to progressive needle tip deformity and does not increase pain intensity or unpleasantness, but could increase convenience and lead to substantial financial savings in Europe of around EUR 100 million/year.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://diabetesjournals.org/care/article-abstract/47/12/2146/157341/Impact-of-Syringe-and-Needle-Reuse-on-the-Clinical?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Effect of Reuse of Insulin Needle on Glycaemic Control and Related Complications in Children with Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus: A Prospective Observational Study - PMC

Children with type 1 diabetes (T1D) take multiple subcutaneous injections of insulin daily to survive. It is controversial whether the insulin needles can be reused safely or not. This study assesses the effect of the reuse versus single-use of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[bigpoppachump2]

You sure its so bad?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168822704001767

Using insulin pen needles up to five times does not affect needle tip shape nor increase pain intensity - PubMed

Using pen needles four to five times does not lead to progressive needle tip deformity and does not increase pain intensity or unpleasantness, but could increase convenience and lead to substantial financial savings in Europe of around EUR 100 million/year.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://diabetesjournals.org/care/article-abstract/47/12/2146/157341/Impact-of-Syringe-and-Needle-Reuse-on-the-Clinical?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Effect of Reuse of Insulin Needle on Glycaemic Control and Related Complications in Children with Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus: A Prospective Observational Study - PMC

Children with type 1 diabetes (T1D) take multiple subcutaneous injections of insulin daily to survive. It is controversial whether the insulin needles can be reused safely or not. This study assesses the effect of the reuse versus single-use of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Yeah. It is. I think after a few thousand injections over the last decade and a half I could be labeled as somewhat of an expert on needles getting dull after pushing them through a plunger and skin.

 

[Ghoul]

You sure its so bad?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168822704001767

Using insulin pen needles up to five times does not affect needle tip shape nor increase pain intensity - PubMed

Using pen needles four to five times does not lead to progressive needle tip deformity and does not increase pain intensity or unpleasantness, but could increase convenience and lead to substantial financial savings in Europe of around EUR 100 million/year.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://diabetesjournals.org/care/article-abstract/47/12/2146/157341/Impact-of-Syringe-and-Needle-Reuse-on-the-Clinical?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Effect of Reuse of Insulin Needle on Glycaemic Control and Related Complications in Children with Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus: A Prospective Observational Study - PMC

Children with type 1 diabetes (T1D) take multiple subcutaneous injections of insulin daily to survive. It is controversial whether the insulin needles can be reused safely or not. This study assesses the effect of the reuse versus single-use of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I can feel the difference without a doubt between needles used to draw then pin and virgin.

(hang on, those are pen needles. Going into flesh isn't going to dull like a hard rubber stopper will.)

 

[bigboy420]

I can feel the difference without a doubt between needles used to draw then pin and virgin.

I dont one bit, always painless.

Once I panicked pinned 3 times in the skin and I started hearing tearing noise. But that was once.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Needle point degradation is especially problematic with thin walled small gauge needles.

 

[Ghoul]

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That last one is factory fresh from China. Needs more pieces of loose metal flash on it though.

 

[bigboy420]

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But still thats in the skin.
Doubt piercing a rubber once does anything noticing

 

[bigpoppachump2]

When I first started aas I didn’t really care about sharpness or quality. Only thing I knew and cared about was that oil went where it was supposed to go and that it did its job. Fast forward many years I care more about scar tissue and comfort post injection so I use only fresh high quality brand small needles and take much better care remaining still and precision on the location of the injection. Anything that isn’t super sharp just pops and slices it’s way through all the scar tissue I have across all my injection sites. Wish I’d take. More care in the early years but I didn’t because I never thought I’d still be sticking a needle in my ass or thigh this many years later.

 

[T-Bagger]

I'm from the UK.

The real question is what am I not pinning!

Nah, but I just want to pin a little bit of parabolan in my delts for the cosmetic and anti catabolic effects, as it's 75mg/ml and not sure how much I can actually pin in the delts?

So like how much oil volume can I put in my delts?

I used to put up to 3 - 4 mL in my delts when I frontloaded. As a caution, I am now attributing my shoulder arthritis to my delts being my primary pincushion. I could be wrong, but just a word of caution from an old fart.

 

[Ghoul]

I used to put up to 3 - 4 mL in my delts when I frontloaded. As a caution, I am now attributing my shoulder arthritis to my delts being my primary pincushion. I could be wrong, but just a word of caution from an old fart.

Sorry man, I hope it's not too bad.

I've been kind of obsessed with avoiding arthritis. The fact is, arthritis ALWAYS has a cause that can be head off if caught quickly enough, despite our acceptance of it as a "normal" part of aging. It's not,

I've been pointing out particles, rubber stopper coring, and all the other crap known to be in injectables, cause a condition called "reactive arthritis". Some guys responded with the typical "I've been pinning for years without filtering and it's no problem.". I wonder where they think all that shit ends up.

Even the sickest patients, or heroin addicts, don't pin as much as we do.

Therefore what's harmless in a handful of shots each year, can do significant damage, cumulatively over the years.

Now I always filter, everything. Half the critics probobly only drink bottled or filtered water, but somehow believe injecting unknown contaminants is harmless.