And so will these guys unless they cooperate and wear an ankle bracelet for a year or two which is the far more likely outcome.
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Blackstone Labs, PJ Braun, Aaron Singerman Charged in Illegal Dietary Supplement Scheme
- Thread starter Michael Scally MD
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T-Bagger
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Can’t disagree with you on hardly anything you’ve said. The only thing that stood out to me is their defense that they plan on fighting this with: these are vitamins and not illegal substances. Granted, I haven’t researched everything they were selling, but it seems like complete bullshit when the biggest crooks are running our government and nothing happens to them.
The government is the biggest gang of them all. Step in their territory slightly and they will go after you. Kinda messed up.
True that.
That was the first thing I thought- mess with big pharma money and you can kiss your ass goodbye.
T-Bagger
Elite
Just kinda? Lol
Are you saying that you really don't believe ostarine, trendione, halodrol, epistane, methylstenbolone, dimethazine, and methyl-1-etiocholenolol are "wholesome, beneficial, and safe for the body" as Blackstone claims?
This is not a winning defense strategy. The synthetic steroids and SARMs were never legal to sell as dietary supplements. Knowingly selling drugs masquerading as dietary supplements is bad enough. But insisting that they are "wholesome, beneficial, and safe for the body" while dismissing and ignoring the adverse effects reported by customers is not going to go very well. I can't believe Blackstone is doubling down on this blatantly false assertion.
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Savagesteve
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I can sense the sarcasm and you’re right. Only time I’ve had severely altered lipids and liver enzymes was listening to a buddy of mine before starting aas and running a pro hormone cycle.Are you saying that you really don't believe ostarine, trendione, halodrol, epistane, methylstenbolone, dimethazine, and methyl-1-etiocholenolol are "wholesome, beneficial, and safe for the body" as Blackstone claims?
EazyE
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Yes some of the pro hormone/pro steroid products are quite harsh. Many of them were researched by pharmaceutical companies decades ago, but never developed and put into commerce as they were discovered to cause too many side effects. When compared to proven AAS compounds like Anavar, Anadrol,.. etc. they have much harsher effects.
Superdrol is a good example. Works great. Huge strength gains and body transformation properties, but you can only tolerate it for a short period. It is one of the most powerful oral steroids....I mean “dietary supplements” available. Some of the derivatives of the parent compounds are very obscure. In the eyes of the law, these companies tweak these compounds to create “new” compounds that are not listed or scheduled. They are using loopholes in the law to get around this, although the laws have been tightened up considerably over the years since 2004 to counteract this.
No AAS are safe when misused but I would rather utilize compounds that have a lot of research behind them with real world results and experience. Some of these obscure and relatively unknown marketed substances could have huge health impacts on users in the future.
Blackstone will never win this case. The law is quite black and white as far as these compounds go. These dietary supplements are all classified as scheduled AAS. Good luck to them.
This is a big misconception.
Superdrol and most of the other synthetic steroids were never legal to sell as dietary supplements under DSHEA in the first place. They may not have been legally considered controlled substances (anabolic steroids) under the CSA. But they were always legally considered unapproved new drugs, ergo, illegal to sell as dietary supplements.
The FDA utterly failed to enforce DSHEA for most of the past 10-15 years. And many supplement company owners knew that they had an excellent chance of getting away with selling unapproved new drugs and make huge profits with little legal consequence. The cost-benefit was in their favor.
The Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014 did not make it illegal to sell these synthetic steroids (unapproved new drugs). They were already illegal to sell as dietary supplements. It legally re-classified them as controlled substances (anabolic steroids). The DASCA simply gave the DEA (instead of the FDA) the authority to pursue these crimes.
Now it turns out that the FDA is not turning a blind eye after all.
There are FOUR "Unindicted Co-conspirators" in this case. Who are they? Why weren't they indicted? Are they cooperating with feds? Will they be indicted at a later date?
Unindicted Co-conspirator #1 owned a supplement manufacturing facility in Georgia (and co-owned Fight Pharm). I've been told this could be Jared Wheat of Hi-Tech which was known to manufacture products for Blackstone Labs.
Unindicted Co-conspirator #2 ran day-to-day operations of Fight Pharma and later co-owned Ventech.
Unindicted Co-conspirator #3 was the CEO/owner of a supplement retailer that sold Blackstone Labs products in Batesville, AR. This was most likely Legendary Supplements owner Justin Smith.
Unindicted Co-conspirator #4 was the Chief Operations Officer of Blackstone Labs.
Unindicted Co-conspirator #1 owned a supplement manufacturing facility in Georgia (and co-owned Fight Pharm). I've been told this could be Jared Wheat of Hi-Tech which was known to manufacture products for Blackstone Labs.
Unindicted Co-conspirator #2 ran day-to-day operations of Fight Pharma and later co-owned Ventech.
Unindicted Co-conspirator #3 was the CEO/owner of a supplement retailer that sold Blackstone Labs products in Batesville, AR. This was most likely Legendary Supplements owner Justin Smith.
Unindicted Co-conspirator #4 was the Chief Operations Officer of Blackstone Labs.
EazyE
Well-known Member
Thanks for the great insight and clarity surrounding this topic.
Savagesteve
Well-known Member
Surely he’s not gonna rub it in the feds faces before trial...
EazyE
Well-known Member
That cocky and flaunting attitude is going to make a very bad impression in court. The feds will make an example out of him. I sincerely hope he has retained the legal service of one of the best defense attorneys in the country.
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